GF FX 5200 blink screen randomly with msi drivers

After fresh install of windows xp (no sp, sp1 and sp2), I have no problems with nvidia original drivers, but when I try to install msi drivers, sometimes the screen blink once and the screen doesn´t refresh the information, have to do it minimizing the active window.  This problem only happen´s with 2D (normal usage) and when I click on video files, no problem with DOS programs, when running games (no problem with PSU) or videos.
Someone can tell me how to completely remove msi video drivers?
My system is:
MB MSI KT6 Delta
AMD duron 1.8GHz
512MB DDR400 Samsung
Seagate 80GB ATA and Seagate 80GB SATA
DVD-R LG GSA4081B and CD-RW Optorite CW5202

Hi,
1) Use Add/remove to delete your current VGA Driver. (do not reboot at this time)
2) Delete the C:/nvidia folder
3) Reboot
4) Run Driver Cleaner (Download Driver Cleaner 3 from driverheaven.com to remove all traces of your nvidia driver - read instructions)
5) Delete msicpl.dll (you may need to Search your PC for this entry (This is the MSI tabs)
6) Empty Recycle Bin
7) Install latest nvida drivers from nvidia.com
Good Luck,

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    http://home.comcast.net/~aicjofs/cbbid250asus1.jpg
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    [SATA Spread] Disable
    [PCI Spread] Disable
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    [CPU Ratio] 10x
    [Adjust CPU VID] 1.45
    [Extra CPU Voltage] +9.9%
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    -------------- Original message --------------
    Dear Aicjofs
    This is MSI technical support engineer from Taiwan.
    We receive some message from MSI LA office & Anandtech.com.
    We are sorry for inconvinence experience when you try to Overclock MS-7100.
    We hope to contact with you directly and help you to solve it.
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    [CAS# latency (Tcl)]
    [Adjust CPU FSB Frequency]
    [HT Frequncy]
    [Adjust CPU VID]
    [Extra CPU Voltage]¡Kor others
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    CPU ADA3500DAA4BW ABBWE made in Malaysia
    Memory G-skill PC4400 512MB*2 (Dual Channel)
    We only change some item inside BIOS as: (Based on Optimized defaults)
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    [HT Frequncy] à3x
    [Adjust CPU VID] à 1.450V
    [Extra CPU Voltage] àOver VID 6.6%
    We will try to find similar CPU as yours to test it.
    If possible, please tell us the CPU OPN number like we listed. (ADA3500DAA4BW)
    We also help to know any other info that you can provide.
    If possible, please help to tell us more setting and system info.
    Thanks!
    Waiting for your responding.
    Best Regards!
    Technical Support Engineer
    Technical Support Department
    E-mail: msi.com.tw
    [Post edited by Glenn]

    Quote from: Indigian on 15-June-05, 19:41:43
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