GIMP Printing and ColorSync... ?

Since discovering I can now print (to my Epson Stylus Color 1160) printer using the GIMP drivers furnished in Tiger 10.4.11, I nevertheless seem to be missing ColorSync support.
Images (photos and Photoshop images) don't seem to be printing with reliable color rendition. (All my artwork previously had been elaborately calibrated for screen display and printing via the Epson printing software and ColorSync. That is, until Epson decided to orphan the printer by abandoning software support for Tiger and beyond.)
When I search on the Internet for an explanation of the GIMP/ColorSync issue, I find numerous articles that assert that these GIMP drivers do not support my old ColorSync (ICC) profiles, and which articles are otherwise oblique, abstruse, and equivocal.
I can't understand what I'm supposed to do:
-- Turn off ColorSync (how?);
-- Re-calibrate new ICC profiles for the printer (again, how? By using the ColorSync Utility?);
-- Spend a fortune on ink and paper by trial and error test printing?
If you have a simple understandable explanation of how to print my existing ColorSynced image files in this situation, I'd surely like to know! And thanks!

Norm Caryl wrote:
I've downloaded GutenPrint 5.2.6, but haven't installed it because the docs (seem to) say that it won't reliably use the printer ICC profiles that I previously assigned via the Epson software...
The documentation has only a paragraph or two in the entire "manual" to address ColorSync.
The Gutenprint drivers are written to be used on many systems such as Linux, Mac OS X, and other *nix platforms. They were not written specifically for OS X and for use with ColorSync.
What the manual is saying is basically what I mentioned earlier. ICC profiles that were supplied by Epson for use with their own drivers paper, and ink will not produce the same output when used with a different driver such as Gutenprint. Likewise, the Epson provided ICC profiles will not produce the same results if you use third party ink or third party papers.
The Photoshop "color space" for my files is the "Adobe RGB (1998)." Not sure what will happen if I change this to sRGB for the image... (if that's possible).
I am far from expert in color managing. It may be of some benefit if you read a discussion on the Gutenprint forums at https://sourceforge.net/projects/gimp-print/forums/forum/4359/topic/3810875. Of course each printer is going to be different, but the principles outlined there would still apply. In that discussion, it was found that changing the color space to AppleRGB and then printing using "Same as Source" was getting close to the right output. You still may need to make some adjustments to the Density or Gamma controls in the Gutenprint settings.
One thing you will need to pay particular attention to is to make sure that you have the type of paper selected properly in the print window under Printer Features. Also, you will need to set the proper resolution and image type in the Gutenprint settings under Printer Features.
ColorSync profiles show up in the (Tiger) GIMP printing routine (one for each paper stock), but I'm not sure where these came from -- are they my original ICC profiles from my Epson software, or are they profiles GIMP furnishes?
The Gutenprint drivers do not provide any ICC profiles. The PPDs do contain directives to manage to the sRGB profile that comes with OS X as that is the color space that Gutenprint expects.
I was hoping there'd be a "simple" way to convert my old ColorSync profiles so that I could print them with reliable color rendition...
As I have 30 or 40 photos (of approx. 220MB) to be printed at 13" x 19", I'm a bit reluctant to go in and color balance them all in the ColorSync Utility (especially as I don't understand whether or not the ColorSync Utility is producing an ICC profile for the printer. (Or is the ColorSync Utility merely creating another screen profile?)
I have pretty much reached my knowledge limit on the use of ColorSync and the use of it with the Gutenprint drivers. As a practical matter, it is always best to experiment with smaller test prints and use copies of any images you test just to make sure you don't accidentally corrupt a good file.

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我太老了       (Not posting as a scientist here
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