Glitches, clicks, and pops when exporting all tracks as audio files

It's getting to crunch time, and Logic 9 has been giving me a very hard time. It's now time to export my edited tracks as mono audio files to send to a mixing engineer. I thought mono files would be a button press away. Not so.
*Background on Project*:
– Started in Logic 8, and was continued in Logic 9
– Contains only audio that was recorded using Logic
– Has take folders with Quick Swipe Comps
– Has flexed regions
– Has take folders with flexed regions in them
– Has been manually beat mapped
Steps:
1) Set each fader, on every track, to unity gain and centre panning.
2) File > Export > All Tracks as Audio Files
3) Select AIFF, 24-bit, bypass effect plug-ins, and include volume/pan automation, normalize off.
*Expected Outcome*:
I expect mono/stereo files of all of my unprocessed tracks, bounced in place with fades, flexing, and quick swipe comps applied.
*Actual Outcome*:
I get mono/stereo files with clicks, pops, and scrambled sections scattered throughout the files, within fades, and at quick swipe comping boundaries. Retrying the export may result in clicks, pops, and scrambled sections in different places.
Workaround:
While the glitching in fades and at comp boundaries seems to happen in offline bounces, it rarely happens when playing the song in realtime. Unfortunately, there's no realtime option when you "export all tracks as audio files." *My workaround is to export the tracks one at a time by bouncing the project in realtime with the desired track soloed*.
This is excruciatingly slow. To speed things up, I've taken to soloing six tracks at a time, assigning all of them to the surround output, and panning each track exclusively to a different surround channel. This way, I can do a split file surround bounce and get six mono files, each with the contents of a different track. If your audio interface does not support 6 outputs, then you'll need to download SoundFlower and use their virtual 16 channel output.

In addition to the flex algorithms being disappointingly substandard in overall tc quality, flex tracks glitch constantly--especially if there are tempo changes or crossfades. You may be able to freeze them first and then export. AlternAtively, you could try tmelocking them and then using an alternate tempo map with a single tempo, then switching back after you flex tracks are bounced.

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But I find that they all have about 0.3s silence inserted at the start. WHY??!!!
I checked, and on the timeline all the tracks start with their first note at the beginning of the track so there is no silence in the arrangement. But still this silence on export.
This Logic feature is so badly designed - why can't it do the simplest things as expected.

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Thank you I will look into plug-in latency compensation. However, there is no latency or need for latency compensation when outputting offline files in this way. Latency compensation is for live playback where real-time processing matters. So this is flawed software design, hence my comments about it being illogical.
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I have to say... I suspect something has changed even if you are not directly aware of it.... between the time it did work and now that it doesn't for you... Be it for example... an update to a plugin you are using.. or even a new/different plugin you are using now that you didn't use before...
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You might also want to check with the guys at
http://www.logicprohelp.com/forum/index.php
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sambino wrote:
I tried with "File>Export>All Tracks as Audio File but the result is 11 audio files with different lengths. As the song is 3 minutes and 20 seconds I would like every single track to be 3.22 sec long.
The files are different lengths because each instrument does not stop playing at the same moment. It would accomplish nothing other than waste disk space if Logic appended silence to the end of each file in order to make each track the same length. The different lengths you see mean nothing because the absence of appended silence means nothing.
each track is composed not only by played instruments but also by moments of silence.
Naturally. And that silence is accounted for in your exported files, when the silence appears at the beginning of the track, and when it appears during the track. It just isn't appended at the end because that would be pointless. Consider this project, consisting of four tracks:
When I use the command File > Export > All Tracks as Audio Files, Logic will produce four files that look like this:
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By using Bounce, you would be gaining nothing except extra work, because you would have to do it separately for each file you wanted to produce. With Export > All Tracks as Audio Files, you get all your files with just one command.
iSchwartz wrote:
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But the second option gives me audio files at original record levels so that I can create a different sounding mix, or use audio regions in another project, setting levels as needed.
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CSeye wrote:
I just started exploring Export Tracks to Audio and had the misconception that whatever fader & pan positions were set in the mixer would be rendered in the export. Good to know that Bounce is the way to go if that's needed.
Just be sure to UN check the 'include volume and pan info' esp if someone else is gonna mix for you
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My question is really about two situations: The most important one is archiving/future proofing a project, and the other is how best to share a mix with a collaborator.
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