GM Derivation strategies (GMDERIVE) using statistical WBS elements

Hi experts!
I have a question related to GM derivation rules.
We need to derive Sponsor program throuhg WBS elements.
These objects are statistical in our system.
I note that SAP R/3 Derivation strategies need actual postings to derive Sponsor Program.
Is it true? What can i do to derive sponsor program from statistical CO objects? Maybe enhancement, function module?
Thanks in advance and best regards

Hi
I did not explain properly. Postings are using cost centres and WBS elements, both in every posting. This means WBS postings are statistical.
As WBS elements correspond to sponsored programs I want to derive sponsored program from WBS. I tested in SAP and Sponsored program is derived from cost centre (actual) and not from WBS (statistical posting).
This means creating dozens of cost centres. Is there any way to derive Sponsored Program using GMderive from WBS elements?? I would like one direct way, assignment or derivation rule. Is it possible. I am afraid that only enhacements or function modules can be used. Has anybody used them for this?
Looking forward to hearing from you soon.

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Hi Guys,
Need some KT from you all regarding Statistical WBS Elements.My queries are
1.Can a statistical WBS element be budgeted? If yes how are the Budget distributed to those below.
2..If a level 2 WBS is marked statistical and it has 3 WBS under it which are Acc asignment element then how is the budget distributed.
3.can you provide some good example of the use of Statistical WBS element?
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ssk

Hi Shourya,
1. As mentioned above Statistical WBS can be budgeted like any operative project and the budget can further be divided into lower level WBS elements and Availaility Control can be activated on these.
2. Again as stated above the budget distribution is normal. For ex- If a level 2 WBS is statistical and level 2's underneath that are real WBS.
3. We can use the Statistical WBS for capital projects. For ex- We can assign a Statistical WBS in Master record of AUC for Availability control of budget for Capital spending. And then when we create a PO with Account Assignment category A with same AUC, budget control (Availability control) is activated through the statistical WBS.
Someone might ask but why we want to use WBS for budget control why not I/O? It's because it provides more visibility over different departments (divided by structure). And via this process we can see all our PO's on AUC directly from Asset Explorer (AW01N).
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Customer runs projects and statistical projects in combination with internal orders.
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see whether the real object is getting derived.
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Availability control on statistical WBS element

Hi everybody,
The issue deals with availability control on statistical WBS element.
Part 1 : I released 25000 as budget (CJ32) for a statistical WBS element.
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We made a good receipt (MIGO) for 20000 on an AUC (asset under
construction) - so we get the value as statistical value on the WBS
element -, then invoice verification (MIRO) and finally the asset
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availability check ... and this is not working as the system in the described case shows 25000 as available but for me we should have only 5000 (= 25000 - 20000).
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Hi Benjamin,
Pl go through the link below :
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/3e/a98337dd34ca76e10000009b38f8cf/frameset.htm
I have not faced this but as far as I remeber for AUC Statistical assignments have some limitations.
Any specicfic reason for keeping the WBS Statistical? Are you able to see "0" zero on this WBS in CN41.
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We use the SAP PS module. I create the WBS and WBS's statistical WBS element (XSTAT) set the true.
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Hello
Set a substitution rule for a particilar proj profile/type, to set the WBS as statistical on saving.
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No costs visible statistical WBS element

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- Fill in a fixed asset, but also a (statistical) WBS element (put fields 'project' and 'network' optional in customizing)
- execute a MIGO to book costs
Now when I run the cost report for this project using transaction CJI3 then I do NOT get the costs visible on this statistical WBS element.
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kindest regards
bert

It is normal

PM Budget - Statistical WBS element

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My intention is monitoring the PM budget for a plant by linking every PM order to a statistical WBS element.
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We use the SAP PS module. I create the PYP and PYP's statistical WBS element (XSTAT) set the true.
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How is change PYP's statistical WBS element?
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No costs visible for statistical WBS element

Hi,
The followin steps are the setup:
- Project with a statistical WBS element and a network below
- Create a PO with Account category "Fixed Asset"
- Fill in a fixed asset, but also a (statistical) WBS element (put field 'project' optional in customizing)
- execute a MIGO to book costs
Now when I run the cost report for this project using transaction CJI3 then I do NOT get the costs visible on this statistical WBS element.
HOWEVER when I do the same steps, but instead of putting a statistical WBS element I put the network (next to the fixed asset) then I do get the costs visible.
Is this normal or do I have to change something in order to get the costs visible for my statistical WBS element?
kindest regards
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Is this necessary?
Because in the end I want to book these costs as actual costs on my fixed asset...

Statistical WBS Element in Sales Order

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see whether the real object is getting derived.
the system is nt finding the real object and trying to post with the WBS in real, but since its statistical, the error.
any other calrifications. plz post.
regards
anantha

We want to post actual cost through statistical WBS elements.

when we do the posting on Costcenter assigned to a Statistical WBS element (2nd level), I was in the opinion that, the actual cost posted on the Costcenter of statistical WBS (2nd level) will reflect to the top WBS element (which is non-statistical in 1st level).
But, I cannot able to see the actual cost in the 1st level WBS which also a Billing element (with this, finally we want to do the Resource Related Billing).
So expalin me how to bring actual cost posted on the costcenter of a Statistical WBS, to top WBS element which is non-statistical.

U can book the actual cost from Procurement Cycle or by direct Invoice posting using FI transaction.
Procurement Cycle:
When you create PR or PO user Account Assignment Q or P and maintain WBS element. When u do GR or service entry actual cost is captured on the Project (WBS element).
Using FI Transaction:
When there is no PO and to book the cost u can use F-43 to post actual cost (via Invoice) and mention WBS element.
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Purchasing for statistical wbs element

Hello SAP experts,
Could you please advise if it is possible to create a purchase requisition with regard to a statistical WBS element? If so, please let me what the assignment category should be used, so both cost center & wbs element number could be used.
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not possible
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Line item report on Statistical WBS element.

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I need to extract Line report on statistical WBS element. I tried CJI3 and end up with the message No costs, revenues or finances were selected.
can some one help me on this.
Thanks and Regards,
Vinod

Hi,
Please check below:
Table PRPS: Select OBJNR and pass to RPSCO and check if any value exists there. Note down the Value type, Year.
While in CJI3, please check if any dynamic Selection is active, remove all.
if mutliple selection shows any exclusions, remove all.
Posting Data: Remove the values. (Or put from 01.01.1900 to 31.12.9999)
Select the standard SAP Layout (Starting with 1SAP)
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Varshal Kachole

Settlement to cost center posted for statistical WBS element

We have the following scenario
Statistical WBS elements with assigned Cost center posted for actual postings
Network assigned to statistical WBSE and settlement rule on the same WBSE
On settlement run CJ88 the network costs are transferred from network to Cost Center posted in the WBSE.
Issue:
While analysing the active availability control the assigned value is doubled. This happens only of the networks are settled. System considers the Actual values from network + Statistical value from WBSE to caculate the assigned values.
Simulation details as under.
SP-SET-02-3 (wbs element)
    COSS 2011 11 0007101000     0001240704 KOAO D INR                 100.00 INR
    NWA 500000002408 0010
        COSS 2011 04 0007101000     0001240704 KOAO O INR                 100.00- INR   S -- does not contribute to assigned value
        COSP 2011 04 0007101000     0001240704 COIN D INR                 100.00 INR
        COSP 2011 01 0007101000     0001240704 KPPP D INR                 100.00 INR   M   -- does not contribute to assigned value
Hence the assigned value gets doubled and eating up the budget.
Anyone encountered similar issues pls share the possible solutions.

Hi Mohit
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Initial balance upload of revenue GL accounts with wbs
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