GMAIL access using IMAP (Mail 4.x) vs. POP (Mail 3.x)

My wife and I live in two different locations about half the time. The G4 Powerbook she uses has Mail 3.x and is set up as a POP account. The 27" iMac Intel i7 I have is accessing Gmail as IMAP. If my computer is off and she gets her mail, it scrubs it before I can see it, and vice versa. I can see all mail traffic with my iPhone 3, but have to be careful not to open email on it until she has had a chance to check mail with the Powerbook. How can I configure the Mail program or Gmail accounts so that they do not "steal" mail from each other?

In the Mail program, open mail preferences. Under "accounts" click on the gmail account you want to change. Then click on "advanced" to the right and uncheck "remove copy from server after retrieving a message." Alternately, you can leave it checked and change the removal from "right away" to "after one day" or "after 1 Month" etc.

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Pop gmail account using Mac Mail has stopped receiving email.

I have two pop gmail accounts using Mac Mail. One has stopped receiving email while one is fine. Both are set up exactly the same. Any idea how to fix this issue?

I saw on Yahoo's site the following:
http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/mail/original/mailplus/pop/pop-40.html
Does that address your problem?
I see you're using the UK version and that there's no similar page on the Yahoo UK site but perhaps it helps anyway. Have a look here as well: http://help.yahoo.com/l/uk/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/pop/pop-30.html
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How to fix SPAM on iPhone if you use IMAP + Mail.app

This isn't going to work for everyone, but for me, it works beautifully. I thought I'd share this here in case anyone else is in the same boat
Summary: Since my G5 is turned on 24/7, I have Michael Rothwell's IMAP-IDLE plug-in installed, and do all of the filtering near real-time in Mail.app. My iPhone is set to check every 15 minutes, and because the junk is filtered instantly at Mail.app, I never see it on the iPhone except in the junk mail folder
(1) download the imap-idle plugin at http://fivepoundsflax.blogspot.com/
(2) install into mail.app
(3) configure spam filtering in mail.app
(4) leave running 24/7 to filter email on the fly and near real-time

Or you could try this:
Delete the account you want to change from POP to IMAP
Put the iPhone into Flight Mode so that it doesn't automatically set up the POP account.
Create the new account and enter the settings
Server incoming and out going: mail.btinternet.com
Incoming Port: 993 SSL security
Outgoing Port: 465 SSL security
Once the IMAP settings are entered remove Flight Mode.
During the set up process you will probably get a few messages complaining that your iPhone can't connect to your email server.
Just ignore these

Anybody using IMAP Mail on Ovi?

I cannot connect since yesterday, webmail still works fine. Anyone has the same problem?
Cannot connect via phone, nor via Outlook. Thing is, I always use the same ISP, but I don't think that's the problem.

Yes I've the same problem.
My profimail says: Connection closed by server.
I have another question.
Has anybody a working secure connection for smtp? I need a port for ssl.
With the imap port 993 works for a secure imap connection until the service was reachable.
Message Edited by vanbongjohanson on 13-Feb-2009 09:57 PM

Confusion with mail.app and Gmail using imap

I've had a yahoo.com email address for years, and pay for Mail Plus and POP3, which I frankly don't even use. Now that I've confirmed, however, that I can successfully forward emails from my yahoo box to my new gmail box, I'd like to look into setting up mail.app for the gmail account using imap. Like most people, I access my mail from several places (home & work computers, Touch, and others), and imap makes sense as the right way to go.
Last night I tried to set things up on mail.app on the Mac, and boy was it confusing in terms of the folders, etc. Is there someplace someone can point me for a sort of "beginner's guide to setting up Gmail/imap with mail.app"? Hopefully this "guide" would give me some hints on setting up various rules, etc. that would allow me to have a setup that makes sense: only one copy of emails, sent items in the sent items folder, etc.
One more thing: can I set up Gmail/imap with more than one email client? For example, can I use mail.app at home and Thunderbird on the Windows computer in my office? And how is the creation of new folders (or labels, I guess, as Gmail calls them) on the web handled by mail.app (or Thunderbird)? I'm guessing that a new label created on Gmail on the web doesn't automatically result in a folder being created in mail.app (or Thunderbird), or does it? If this is correct (no folder created in mail.app until I create it on the Mac), is the message that was moved to a folder on the web found in mail.app in the All Messages folder (or whatever it's called)?
Sorry for the basic nature of these questions...this all seems pretty complicated, and I'd like to get it right the first time. Thanks.

BTW Thanks for the "head's up" that GMail now supports IMAP (I've been waiting for it!)
I'm not sure what your confusion is, other than maybe the confusion between how folders and messages work in Outlook versus Apple Mail and IMAP. I've used both, and several other mail programs over the years.
IMAP permits you to have directories which contain message folders. I make the distinction, because Outlook allows you to message folders which contain messages AND other message folders. I believe most implementations of IMAP do not allow messages inside of directories. Thus, a directory looks like a message folder, but it may only contain message folders, and not individual messages.
Now, GMail appears to create message folders for each label you define in GMail, and messages which have several labels appear in each folder. If you copy the folders to your computer, you WILL have multiple copies of those messages, however if you leave them on the server, GMAIL does all the work and you only have one copy of each message.
Special folders in GMail are all located in the directory [Gmail] and include the message folders "All Mail", "Drafts", "Sent Mail", "Spam", "Starred" and "Trash". Notice I say "directory" and not "message folder" for "[Gmail]". That is important.
I cannot attest as to what GMail does when you create a folder from your mail.app client, as I have not done that yet. I would venture a guess that it will define a GMail label and mark any messages you "move" to that folder with that label. The GMail special folder "All Mail" contains all of your mail messages, and is equivalent to selecting "All Mail" when using the web interface.
Your inbox messages will appear in the section with all of your inboxes at the top of your mailbox list. Make sure that you set your preferences to match the recommended preferences for Apple Mail when setting up your GMail account. Otherwise you will end up with duplicates and/or a lot of unnecessary data transfers to your Mac.
Hope this helps. If not, please give a more explicit example of something that doesn't work the way you expect.

My home envirornment is an older Mini Mac running 10.5.8 with a PowerPC G4 processor ( I know, it's old). I also use an iPhone 3S, accessing my mac mail account. Do I have to upgrade my computer to a faster processor to use iCloud?

My home envirornment is an older Mini Mac running 10.5.8 with a PowerPC G4 processor ( I know, it's old). I also use an iPhone 3S, accessing my mac mail account. Do I have to upgrade my computer to a faster processor to use iCloud?

Hello,
You can't upgrade to any faster, & especially not to an Intel CPU needed to run Lion/10.7 for full iCloud usage.
You can have limited use of iCloud the way it is, you can view all of iCloud in a Browser, You can use Find my Phone I hear, & you can use IMAP Mail for syncing, but no other syncing.
iCloud Mail setup...
IMAP (Incoming Mail Server) information:
Server name: imap.mail.me.com
SSL Required: Yes
Port: 993
Username: [email protected] (use your @me.com address from your iCloud account)
Password: Your iCloud password
SMTP (outgoing mail server) information:
Server name: smtp.mail.me.com
SSL Required: Yes
Port: 587
SMTP Authentication Required: Yes
Username: [email protected] (use your @me.com address from your iCloud account)
Password: Your iCloud password

How can I force gmail to use my wife's email address on her mails rather than substituting mine?

I've set up SEND NEW MESSAGES FROM Account of selected mailbox, for all our email accounts. But that gets ignored almost always when my wife writes a message. It goes out under her name, but my email address is attached, not hers. Very confusing!
These are gmail accounts, using Apple Mail. If it's important, our default browser is Firefox (and no, not only because of my name).
How can I get gmail/Mail/etc under control?

cafox513 wrote:
Would be glad to. But where? How? This stuff is hidden unless I trip the secret latch to the invisible door.
So true. I feel ya!
And 10.0.x was Apple's idea, not mine. 10.0.2 should have been recorded.
See below instructions
Click on your name Welcome cafox513
Click on your name link
Click on the BIO tab. Scroll down to the bottom till you see "My Products." This is the section where you can edit your profile.

HT2954 How can I access my imac mail from a different computer other than Apple?

How can i access my imac email from a differnt computer other than
apple?

If you are using IMAP mail connection (IMAP keeps the mail on the server), then you just configure the other computer's mail client to access the same account.
If you are using a POP mail connection, then the mail is generally downloaded to your Mac and deleted from the server. That is a much more difficult problem to solve. NOTE: Google's gmail does have a POP option that does NOT delete the mail on the server, so it is accessible via the gmail web page.
A lot depends on what you are using for your mail service and whether you are using IMAP or POP protocols.

IMAP-Mail sender adapter handling with read messages in mailbox

Hi,
(PI 7.0)
we have a "funny" situation:
We are using imap-mail-sender adapter polling a mailbox.
Sometimes there are read messages in mailbox so the adapter cannot read these messages.
When we sort all read messages and we mark e.g. the second message in list as not read, the adapter polls fetch the first (already read) message and afterwards the not-read message and afterwards no other message is read.
I think this behaviour is wrong because pi should not handle an already read meassage.
Does anybody know this problem?
Or is it a problem of the mail-server (Exchange 2003)?
Thanx and regards
Wolfgang

Hi,
thanx for your answer.
The default behaviour of imap is "only fetching unread message" (s. FAQ of mail adapter)...
The mail sender channel with IMAP4 fetches only the unread messages from the specified mail box in the order they are stored. Therefore, please make sure that you have some unread messages in the top of the list (if ordered by most recent on top). After a polling cycle, you can look at the status of this channel at the adapter's monitor. This should show any error if the messages are not processed correctly. Once the messages are read but not processed correctly, they remain in the mail box but are not read in the subsequent polling cycle. You must correct the problem and delete these messages using your mail client program or reset them as unread so that they can be resend.
In our example the adapter fetchs read messages too (till the first unread one) - and this is wrong (i think so!?).
But I dont know if its a MS-Exchange problem.
Regards
Wolfgang
Edited by: Wolfgang Hummel on Oct 7, 2009 12:20 PM
Edited by: Wolfgang Hummel on Oct 7, 2009 12:21 PM

How can i access gmail's smtp server using java mail api

i m using java mail api to access gmails pop and smtp service to receive and send mail from ur gmail account. I m able to access gmails pop server using the ssl and port 995 , but i can not use its smtp server to which i m connecting using ssl on 465 port. It requires authentication code.
if anybody can help me in this regard i m thnkful to him/her.
thnks in advance.
jogin desai

Here's an example of using SSL + Authentication
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Hello, I can no longer access my gmail account through the mail icon. When I use the icon gmail tells me my password is invalid, however when I log in through Safari I have no problems. Any suggestions?

Hello,
I had no problem accessing my Gmail account through the mail icon until two weeks ago. I can still access my Gmail account through Safari, but when I attempt to access my Gmail through the mail icon, Gmail tells me that my password is invalid. Any Suggestions? Any help would be greatly aprecieated.
Thanks,
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Gmail: Mails sent to myself are marked as READ when using IMAP -how to fix?

I just started using IMAP with my Gmail account and Apple Mail. But when I send an e-mail to myself (from my imap account to my imap account), the e-mail will of course go to my inbox but it will be marked as read.
I don't have the option to "mark as unread" in either Apple Mail rules or Gmail filters, they both only have "mark as read".
If I do it using Gmail webmail, then the e-mail is not marked as read, so I don't know if it's something Apple Mail is doing to my email? If I right-click it and "mark as unread", the message will be marked as unread both in my "inbox" and in my "sent mail". But I don't want to right click all my "to do mails" to make sure I see them.
(I'm aware this is not the best workflow, but I like it..)

Alas, I'm still having problems with Gmail. Now what happens is that I'm getting the "caution" triangle next to the account which indicates a problem. The error message when I click on that triangle is: "Unable to Connect There may be a problem with the mail server or network. Check the settings for account “Gmail” or try again. The server error encountered was: The connection to the server “imap.gmail.com” on port 587 timed out."
Also, something else is strange. When I look in the account settings window, my password is not there. It's blank. So I enter it. A few minutes later, when I check, my password is again no longer there.
Regarding your suggestions to move the mail folder, I really don't want to do that because I have about 20 mailboxes full of important saved messages. I can't afford to lose those. Surely there must be some other way?
Leopard is the worst OS upgrade in Apple's history, IMO. It's caused more problems for me than I could have imagined.

Complete IMAP settings to use in Mail for Gmail

Mail users,
Does anyone know the complete settings for Gmail to work with Mail in Snow Leopard. Sometimes there are advanced settings that need to be adjusted, for complete integration, but I'm not sure how to tinker with them.
Any help would be great or articles you can refer me to.
I'm primarily wanting to stop the creation of IMAP/ folders on the Gmail web interface, perhaps there's a way to use those folders as primary locations, who knows?
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The GMail site at Google should provide all the required information you need.

I have a gmail pop accnt and a tbird pop accnt. how to synchronize them? must I use IMAP?

I have had Tbird for over a decade, and have used gmail as only a place to store copies of messages that I receive in my tbird application. I have it set up so that whatever emails are received in tbird will also be received in gmail. Both accounts are POP accounts.
1) what would be the advantage of changing to IMAP accounts?
2) how can I take the emails in the folders in Tbird and copy them over to similar named folders in Gmail?

Slightly confused - you mention you have two accounts:
a pop gmail and a pop tbird
however, what do you mean by pop tbird?
Thunderbird email client is not a server and does not issue email addresses. So you must have another email address on a different server.
'''Pop mail accounts:'''
You can have both pop mail accounts incoming to their own mail accounts and using their own Inbox.
you can also set up Pop mail accounts to use a Global Inbox in Local folders account, so they use only one Inbox in thunderbird.
All emails can be stored on computer in Thunderbird profile folders.
You can select to leave on server or remove upon download or keep on server for a specific period or remove when you delete an email.
Pop mail accounts are useful if you only operate from the one computer.
As emails are stored in Profile you can view them in online or offline mode.
If moving about using different computers or devices, you can access mail via Webmail or need to make sure that Pop mail accounts leave messages on the server in order to download to separate devices. Sent emails cannot be seen by differnent devices as they are only on the computer that sent them.
You could use a portable version of Thunderbird to overcome this issue, but you may find an issue with Profile size if there is a lot of mails.
'''IMAP mail acounts see a remote view of the server.'''
You subscribe to see folders and email headers are downloaded. when you select an email, Thunderbird downloads to a temp cache to facilate quicker access, but emails are not stored in Thunderbird, they are only stored on server. You cannot dowload to see emails if in offline view.
You can synchronise subscribed folders to get a copy of the server folder in a mbox file in your Thunderbird mail account. Very useful for offline viewing.
Anything you do in an Imap account will be reflected in the server folders. So if you delete an email in Thunderbird or via webmail, the folders are synchronised to show same. They are one and the same folders.
As with Pop, you can move emails into Local Folders, these emails will be stored in mbox files in your Profile and are not efected by the server. If needed, these emails can be deleted off the server and still have a copy in Local Folders.
IMAP mail accounts cannot use a Global Folder.
IMAP mail accounts are good if you use different computers or use eg: a phone and want access to the same information.
Whatever method you use, both email addresses set up to use their own mail account can be seen symultaneously in the same Profile in Thunderbird, so you do not have to forward emails to other accounts, that is your choice.
Backups are still inportant regardless of Pop or IMAP.

How to force a Mail account to use IMAP instead of POP?

I'm trying to setup a new mail account on my wife's iPhone 3G (4.2.1) and after putting in the in initial info (name, e-mail address, password), Mail picks up the POP server information (which is valid), but I don't want to use POP, I want to use IMAP. I know that the account supports IMAP as it's configured and working in Outlook. Changing the incoming server from pop.netcabo.pt to imap.netcabo.pt (which I know is the correct server) does nothing, it still functions as a POP server.
I know that in some cases a big IMAP/POP selection button appears at the top of the mail configuration screen but in this case it doesn't. There appears to be no way to force iPhone Mail to use IMAP.
The only way I know to get around this, which is a pain in the ***, is to configure the account as IMAP in OS X Mail and then sync the account to the iPhone, but I don't want to go there if I don't have to.

If your having problems getting your Apple Mail or Mac Mail to sync across your devices, I thought this might be helpful. It could be because you have your email accounts set up with POP rather than IMAP configuration. Try this solution.
I had set up my gmail account a long time ago (5 years) before I know the differnce between POP and IMAP. IMAP allows you to sync across devices... POP is OLD SCHOOL technology of the 90's. Now that I know better, and have more than one device I want to sync, so I want to change the settings in mac mail to convert the gmail emails from a POP account type to an IMAP accont type, but I cannot afford to loose all of my previous emails that I'd saved (100's of them), which is what will happend if you delete this account to start anew.
Odly, even after I set up the email as IMAP in gmail, it still did not update the account type in Apple Mail. Apparently this has to be done from scratch.
!.WARNING, BEFORE PROCEDING THROUGHT THE FOLLOWING, BACK UP YOUR MAC.!
What worked for me was actually rather simple, but to be safe BACK UP.
Note: It did dissassociate all of my "Signatures" but did not erase them from my email acconts (I have 14 email accounts with google apps). Your exprience could be different, so please ba safe and back up.
1) First I dissabled the existing email account in my Apple Mail program.
2) Then recreated the account from scratch as an IMAP.*
* Be sure to change the account to an IMAP in gmail first (Click the Gear on the right > Settings > Forwarding & POP IMAP > Disable POP then Enable IMAP
***Deactivating took the account out of view (hidden) but retained all of the saved emails from the past. At the same time it allowed me to recreate the account in Apple Mail from scratch and it auto pulled up the IMAP configuration, with the same gmail account I was using before set up as POP. ***
Now I'm left with the best of both worlds and all syncs perfectly.
Just don't forget and accidentally delete the inactive account, or you will lose ALL of the emails you saved during the time when the old POP email account was active.
Good Luck!

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