GMail IMAP All Mail does not match Apple Mail

I have a GMail account that I also access via Apple Mail setup as IMAP. I've been trying to delete some emails from this GMail account. I first did the delete in Apple Mail (AM) but somehow the deleted emails would show up a few minutes later. So next I did the delete directly on the web based GMail account. After I got done, the emails seemed to have been deleted on my GMail account. At this time I had ~11,000 items in the GMail All Mail folder.
But when I looked at AM, the IMAP Gmail All Mail has over 21,000 items which includes all of the items I had deleted from GMail.
I tried deleting the IMAP account all together and made sure that the GMail IMAP folders in the Library was removed. Then I recreated the IMAP account in AM and within about 30 minutes, all of the 21,000 items including the emails that no longer exists in the web based GMail account came back.
I like the convenience of having access to All Mail in my AM but it seems I don't have control over the contents. Can anyone explain what is going on and how I might be able to actually delete the files within AM?

cymorrow wrote:
"what I mean is that you have two copies of everything in Apple Mail. everything that's in your gmail inbox in Mail or in any of the other mailboxes is duplicated in the All mail mailbox."
I don't keep them in both places, after I have read the message and have responded, I delete the message from my AM inbox because I know a backup already exists in All Mail.
this is up to you and you can do as you like but this is the long way to do it and you'll be fighting gmail as you are if you keep using it. it's much simpler IMO to keep messages you don't want to delete in your inbox. as it is you do download every message twice even if you delete one copy afterward.
I want to clean out all of the junk mail that gets kept by GMail in All Mail and that is why I am trying to delete these items.
that's just it. there is no easy way to do it. All Mail is the master mailbox for everything you ever received. gmail wants to keep all of them forever and they are hard to get rid of.
I seem to have deleted them from the web GMail but they keep showing back up in the AM All Mail. That must mean GMail is still keeping these "deleted" items somehow/somewhere so that when I create a new IMAP account, AM is downloading them again.
I suspect you haven't emptied trash in webmail gmail.

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