GMail Junk

I had always used Mail for my gMail account and rarely saw anything appear in Mail's JUNK folder. And if I did, I was able to mark it as NOT JUNK. However, since Mavericks, and even after the "fix" I get tons of messages in my JUNK folder (Mail's, NOT gMails). And worse still, even though they are in the junk folder they are not marked as junk so there is no way to mark them as junk....the junk button for these messages will first mark it as junk if you click on it.
I'm guessing these messages are from gMails spam folder but they are ending up in Mail's junk folder.
Anyone know how I can fix this? I spend way too much time selecting all the messages in there and deleting them.
Thanks.

dianeoforegon wrote:
As to the suggestion that you disable Mail's Junk filter, that's just stupid unless you only use Gmail, which I would consider stupid as well.
A lot of recommendations don't make sense. If you are having conflics then toggleing junk preferences might help determine what works best for you.
I get around any conflicts with Apple Mail junk filtering by using SpamSieve. After a brief setup where you train the filter, it works seemlessly in the background. I like that I can teach it what is spam and what is good. It also works in other email clients.
http://c-command.com/spamsieve/
If you fully qualified the suggestion as you did here, it might have made a bit of sense. Just throwing out disabling the Junk Mail filter in Mail because Gmail recommends it is a stupid suggestion.

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CndrllC wrote:
I use Gmail IMAP and Apple Mail 4.2. One thing I find frustrating is that if I am trying to keep an eye on my spam / junk for wayward messages (as we all should do from time to time) I have to check 2 folders.
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- but I want the reverse - so the Junk folder up by my Inbox houses all the junk & spam.
not possible. i suggest you set up the gmail spam folder to be the junk folder.
This used to work - does not seem to anymore - or I'm missing something.
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