Gmail Offline and Time Machine on Mac OS X Snow Leopard

Hi
I am considering downloading my whole Gmail inbox (7GB) to use as Gmail Offline ...in Firefox, because it doesn't work with Safari - btw, any ideas when and if it will?
But my worry is how Time Machine is going to react to this - will it back up incrementally, or just make 7GB backups every time there's changes?
If I lose my laptop (or if someone steals it) will they be able to hack the Gmail Offline to reveal its contents?
Also, if I lose my external, Time Machine hard-drive, will someone be able to access my Gmail Offline without knowing my password?
Is it encrypted, or just a simple password?
Thanks!

Unobtrusive wrote:
But my worry is how Time Machine is going to react to this - will it back up incrementally, or just make 7GB backups every time there's changes?
That depends on how Gmail stores it's data. Some 3rd-party mail apps (such as Entourage and Thunderbird) keep everything in one big file or database. Those are backed-up in full anytime there's the smallest change. AppleMail keeps each message in a separate file, so only the ones that change are backed-up each time.
There are some workarounds. You can exclude the database from normal Time Machine backups, and write an Applescript or Automator workflow to copy the database periodically to a file that's included. Or put a separate partition on your Time Machine drive, and have it copy directly to that. You can run it manually, or use an iCal event to trigger it.
If I lose my laptop (or if someone steals it) will they be able to hack the Gmail Offline to reveal its contents?
Also, if I lose my external, Time Machine hard-drive, will someone be able to access my Gmail Offline without knowing my password?
Unless you encrypt them, yes. Most likely, though, anyone who steals either is going to resell it for the value of the hardware, not your emails.
Is it encrypted, or just a simple password?
Time Machine backups are not encrypted, and have the same password requirements as your Mac. The average thief won't be interested, and likely won't know much about Macs (and you can't read Time Machine backups with a PC).
But it's not difficult for someone with Mac expertise to get at either, unless they're encrypted.

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