Gmail POP retrieval is hit or miss

Since 10.4.7 Mail.app is not downloading all my unread Gmail in it's inbox. Sometimes it does.. sometimes not.
I have checked all my settings in Mail.app and they are correct.
Furthermore... If I am using Gmail's web client and send a message from it... the sent message shows up in Mail.app's inbox the next time it downloads pop mail from Gmail.
Anybody else???? Ideas?

The downloading problem is expected behavior if you check your Gmail account from more that one computer, and the sending behavior is expected behavior regardless. Gmail POP access does not work as a normal POP mail server should. Here are some of its idiosyncrasies:
1. Messages downloaded by any conventional POP mail client are marked as downloaded at the server, and no longer available to either the same or any other mail client.
2. To make already downloaded Gmail messages available for POP access again, you must log into your Gmail account with a web browser and re-enable POP downloading for all your messages, which will cause everything (and I mean everything) still there to be downloaded again.
3. Any Remove copy from server account settings in Mail > Preferences > Accounts > Advanced have absolutely no effect on the messages stored on the server. The reason is that, after being downloaded, those messages are no longer available to any mail client, not even to the same client that has just downloaded them, not even for deleting them or checking whether they are still there.
4. Messages created and sent using the web interface will be downloaded by your POP mail client as if they were incoming messages. You can set up a rule in Mail to automatically route those messages to the appropriate Sent mailbox (or to any other mailbox for that matter) if that's what you want. Although this may seem weird, it's good because it allows archiving all messages locally in Mail, regardless of how they were sent -- as long as you don't access the same Gmail account with more than one mail client, that is.
5. Messages created and sent using a POP mail client such as Mail are also treated as if they were incoming messages for POP purposes, just as in 4. What prevents them from being downloaded is that Gmail marks them as already downloaded immediately. They would, however, be downloaded if Gmail settings were changed as described in 2 above.

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