GNB Max MS-6565 and Dual Channel DDR ram

What's the deal with this new type of memory?
I can only find bits and pieces of information from online retail stores and I am bit frustrated.
Does anyone know where I can find more information?
Cheers

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Originally posted by vaporas
I visited the forum. Thanks for the tip. :-)
Ok, you said that the MSI board cannot be overclocked. Fair enough, I guess you have tried it yourself.
If you increase the fsb speed to 170MHz, why not decrease the multiplier?
170MHz * 14 = 2.4 (2.38)
instead of,
170MHz * 18 = 3.06
Also, do you know whether the mainboards that you mentioned (by Asus and Gigabyte) will allow me to increase the fsb speed to 200MHz?
vaporas
The multiplyer cant be changed on the P4's, unless u have an engineering sample, and theres no way we [general public] could get one. Plus raising the FSB on the MSI board IS the problem, it scales the AGP/PCI with it, and doesnt allow u to increase the voltage for AGP and Mem. With the FSB on the asus and gigabyte, it'll be more CPU limited untill you get to about 210MHz, but I think you should be able to easily clear 170 FSB, if not 180FSB before anything becomes limiting...

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Originally posted by scorpes
I have a p4 3,06 ghz with standaard P4 cooler and GNB MAX with a total of 6 fans and my normal cpu temp is: 54c and system temp is 35c, and mine cpufan speed is around 3700 rpm (says pcalert)
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AND MSI SAYS IT'S NORMAL THAT THE TEMPERATURE IS THIS HIGH?
(http://www.msi.com.tw/program/e_service/forum/viewindex.php?threadid=13840&boardid=10&styleid=1)
MSI GNB MAX (ms-6565) motherboard
P4 3,06 ghz processor with standaard p4 cooler
1024 mb DDR 266 mhz (dual) memory
Geforce 4 mx videocard
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I have had the same problems. The cpu temperature was about 52c when the using was idle.
When the using was more then 80% the temperature was rising in some secons over the 75c.,after replace the cooler there where no more problems. He was not realy good placed on the cpu
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Anyone else having a similar problem like this?
MSI GNB MAX (ms-6565) motherboard
P4 3,06 ghz processor with standaard p4 cooler
1024 mb DDR 266 mhz (dual) memory
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60Gb Maxtor ATA133 HD
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* My board was dead after trying to flash the 1.3 BIOS, but after about 10 attempts of using CTRL+HOME method to recover the BIOS, it finally worked with version 1.0. I then re-flashed with 1.3, and it rebooted fine. Are there any updates about all of the problems with v1.3 ?

>I can only answer based on what I've read on this forum
I figured as much, I was just wondering if you knew whether MSI themselves frequents the forums or answers emails sufficiently.
I've had an interesting development though. I stumbled upon Tom's Hardware Guide's article about 875P motherboards at http://www17.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20030519/i875p-01.html
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http://www.centerfuse.net

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