GNB Max Problems with AGP 8x

It seems that all of the issues with AGP 8x are related with ATI 8x/DX9 cards. What about 8x/DX8 or 8x/DX9 cards from Nvidia mfgs (eg MSI). Does anyone know? Need to replace a "busted" card soon. Also where do you disable fastwrites and/or switch uc/ucsw in GNB bios?
Thanks

I am using the MSI Ti4800SE ( AGPx8 ) and it didn't give me any problems.

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Well
I just bought myself a MSI FX5600XT-TD128
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I'm not sure if my previous videocard (the gf2pro) would run stable @ 4x or run @ 4x at all.. I know my motherboard is capable of agp 4x, the old videocard I am not sure it was..
WEll, I bought the msi, plugged in and no post.
so I take the card out, put it back in, posted... 5mins later, crash..
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Also, can someone explain to me the diferences between FX5600, FX5600XT AND FX5600 ULTRA?
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The mobo problems with the cpu (processor) are limited to having to press 'reset' switch to boot (or else pc will power up but no boot).
This can also be from a weak PSU, which would be even further taxed by adding the power hungry FX card.
Might need a stronger PSU.

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Ok I am gettin ginto the desperate mode now, I cannot seem to find tech support from anyone.
I just built a brand new system.
40 gig HD, AMD 2400 Proc, 512 ram, Geforce2 MX 400, MSI KT6V series MB.
Ok now heres the GD problem. I run this system just for online games. I keep getting Client crashes. I called Sony Tech Support and They told me that I need to Contact NVIDIA and have them help me to Enable my AGP Texture Accelerator. That would be awesome If I could find a tech Number for NVIDIA but they dont seem to offer any support. I have been having this problem for over a month now, and am at my wits end at this point, Any help or tech support Numbers you could offer would be great.

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Originally posted by cdm
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Ok not to be rude but those basic details you are talking about are not so basic to me, Im not really sure what t is you want to know...
ok the driver version for the video card is
5.6.6.4
As far as the PSu I have no idea where exactly to find that and my ram I would have to yank it our to find out
It was his second post
these drivers should have been fine but they are made for the FX series
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KM2M and MX440-T8X (problem with AGP)

Hi every one,
I'm new to the forum... from Chile.
I recently bought a KM2M motherboard and I read in the User's Manual that the AGP port goes from 2X to 4X... BUT... if you connect to it a 8X video card with correct drivers, it would run at 8X (KM2M Quick User's Guide pg. 3-14).
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i dout you will not get any were
i bet you
if they had 8x agp on the box or website you might
any way as im finding you will have to argue with the dealer first
least ways thats how it is were i live
as your contracts with him
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MSI K8T Neo2 - Problem with AGP frequency...

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Thanks for the reply, I'm glad to hear that it is working for someone atleast, this gives me hope.
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You said to "then disable the Onboard components you don't need". My question, are these onboard components found in the bios under "Integrated Peripherals"?
I'm not exactly sure what I can enable and disable, because im not very experienced.
Besides my other hardware as you saw above, I have a "Maxtor 160GB SATA DiamondMax Plus9".
I tried to disable some "PATA" option in the BIOS, but it didnt find my harddrive after that. This is why I'm confused and not sure what to disable (I thought I could disable the PATA since I have SATA, im clueless).
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Yeah, the agp is not working and I've tried just about everything. I've flashed the bios with an update and all that crap. I know the agp bus isn't locked because the system does not boot at any htt above ~220 mhz and if it does boot it is very unstable and crashes. And, when I oc in windows, agp disables itself with high ocs. There was one time when the agp somehow stayed locked and I was able to run solid at 2.5 ghz. I have no idea how it stayed locked and it should be able to stay locked with the 66 MHZ AGP LOCK selected in the bios.
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then leave it at that then. the actual real-life performance difference between 4X and 8X is negligible
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I have problems with my PC.
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MOVED: I have problems with grafick motherboards MSI 845G max when i play games

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I have problems with grafick motherboards MSI 845G max when i play games

There diff x4 agp and x8 agp.......... nothing!!!!!!!
Check you have INTEL application accelerator installed!!!!!!!
845GE-Max is very fast mainboard, only the single channel mem make's it slower than 865/875 chipset........ fact
Check ALL drivers are COMPAT with system NOT the latest............. Try older drivers
Del

I have problems with grafick motherboards MSI 845G max when i play games

I ask about apology my English not so good but I try toexplains my problem
I bought about year ago this motherboard .:::: MSI 845G Max .::::..
and i have at home this grafick card
asus Geforce fx 5700 li 128mb
The problem is .............
the picture intermixes when i play this games
fifa 2005, need for speed, pro evulation ................ and many from the games decaying with high grafick
I asked many persons and the sa that the motherboard grafick AGP plats is 4x
Hill of the games needs strength follows mother boards with 8x AGP
I uppdated my mother board in this page http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/bios/bos/spt_bos_detail.php?UID=314&kind=1
to verion 1,6
But the update harbored is to old ::::::::: 2002::::::::::!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Version 1.6 Update date 2002 - 12 - 17
I desire that you lice my problem with kind greeting of grateful with the respect and the estimate

There diff x4 agp and x8 agp.......... nothing!!!!!!!
Check you have INTEL application accelerator installed!!!!!!!
845GE-Max is very fast mainboard, only the single channel mem make's it slower than 865/875 chipset........ fact
Check ALL drivers are COMPAT with system NOT the latest............. Try older drivers
Del

Realisticly:how much OC with my system?MSI GNB MAX

Ok, How much OC I can get, with my system, if I change the 1.5ghz 266DDR Value RAM to something better. Any suggestions.
I plan to ditch the ram for something better, but my mobo, and CPU aren't that fast compared to the C, and E, and the 64 stuff.
I am using the 2.8B, E7205/i7205 mobo.
Only fan cooling. Using the pipe101, will place the tornado on it. Does the vantec fan card improves my GF performance.
I am just able to OC my card from 350 to 388mhz, 1.09ghz, others got a 420mhz on a supperior system. All using the inno3d 6800gt.. Or I'm looking at an "old" system already.
The OC FSB is just up to 153. I read somewhere that it is useless/not worth to OC this system.
So what do you think?
my system is in the signature

I would not push further than 160 FSB, you can corrupt your disks since PCI /AGP are not locked. Usually PCI frequency above 38 MHZ is not considered safe and 150 FSB corresponds to 37.5 MHZ PCI frequency. I corrupted my 30 GB WD at 160 FSB.
I have GNB Max, P4 3.06HT, 2x 512MB KVR DDR333 (CAS2.5 rated). I oveclocked the system to 150 FSB, P4 is running as 3.45GHz@600FSB (HT is on), with dual channel DDR300 memory (2-3-3-6 timings). System is 100% stable after testing with Linux kernel compile, Prime 95, 3DMark benchmarks. The performance gain in CPU intensive benchmarks is almost the same as increase in FSB frequency, which is 12.5%, since RAM overclocks in sync with CPU.
If you settle at 150 FSB, your DDR266 will be running as DDR300. You can test it with its given SPD values and if not stable you can reduce CAS setting one step, i.e. from CAS2.5 to CAS3. If none of these are possible, you can upgrade with DDR400.
I use Vantec Fan card with my GF4, but it did not help me increase my overclock. However, I removed the fan on my GF4 (heat sink is not removed just the fan) after trying to increase the overclock. Vantec Fan card is much more silent compared to the Thermaltake fan and copper heat sink combo. I still can overclock as before but do not need to put up with the noise of Thermaltake fan.
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