GNB Max-SR MSI-6565 GranetBay & agp440.sys

OK.....first I'll give you my sistem.
Msi-6565(v2.X) Bios version 2.2 All board drivers up to date.
P4 2.53
1G ram Kingmax
2X80Gig WD hard Drives
These are on a Promise Ultra ATA/133 TX2 controller card.
Yamaha CD-RW on board IDE-1
Creative 52X on IDE-2
Audigy
BFG FX5600ULTRA
ANTEC 550 True Control power supply.
OK......Getting a screwup at boot...(sometimes).....Messy graphics.
Have to go into safe mode & shut down. Sometime it takes three or
more tries ...them it takes.
Need a few sugestions here.
I,ve surched the web and have seen no real solution.
ANY sugestions??
Thanks
Jutias

Well...Its morning to me...work 3rd shift.
Anyway. I put the Antec550 in because I thought maybe the BFG FX5600
wasn't getting enough juice. My old power supply only had two molex
line and the antec has 3. So I could use one molex line just for the video card.
Well that was a no go.
Now I 'm just leaving my puter on all the time.
I'm thinking either I have a bad install of the video drivers, or
the video card has bad memory.
No problems before installing the BFG5600.
Was just hoping someone could give me a clue on the "agp440.sys" Error.
Called BFG and they told me that the GranetBay (GNB Max) boards
have issues with the new "FX" video cards.
Thanks
Jutias

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Best regards and hope to get interesting answeres.
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Hello wonkanoby and Assaf
Yes my Card is AGP8x (3DLabs Wildcat4 AGPPro8x)
Hello ASSAF i will send you a mail.
It would be nice to get it.
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I think.
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Hello wonkanoby and Assaf
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Recently I has problem. My motherboard GNB2 Max-l (BIOS updated to v2.3) do not give power (5V) to modem connected to USB port (modem not have external power supply and power get from USB). After I power on PC USB LED on modem lighting, but operating system (Windows XP Pro) do not see modem. Support modem manufacturer speak that modem could get power before PC power on. I try some set in BIOS but result was without change. And for modem work properly I need disconnect USB cable from modem and after connect one more. I try on other 2 PC and after some set in BIOS all work properly.
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I'm having the same problems.
GNB-Max board, Seagate 120GB SATA and Seagate 60GB PATA w/ SATA adaptor.
Regardless of how I connect the drive(s) to the Promise controller, they are not recognised. I've tried the 120GB on it's own on both SATA connectors, the 60GB on it's own and paired on the SATA connectors, and the 60GB on it's own on the PATA (IDE3) connector. At no point in time does the Promise controller dialogue even display during boot, so I can not configure the drive(s). I've tried the 60GB as master, slave and cable select in all scenarios.
The BIOS shows SATA enabled, and I've upgraded to the latest (2.30) BIOS, as well as trying older (2.0 & 2.1) BIOS revisions. All show the same symptoms.
Can anyone shed any light on how you get the Promise controller dialogue to show, or how to overcome the problem? I'd really like to get the 120GB drive working as my boot drive so I can reuse the current PATA drives elsewhere.

MSI GNB Max (MS-6565): insufficient voltage

I have just installed my new GNB Max, and got XP Pro up and running. Upon installing PC Alert 4, I recieved a warning that the +3.3V was actually sub 3V(2.9+V). What effect will this have? And what kind of Variance should I tolerate?
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My GNB Max + Antec true power 430 read 3.33.
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I'm getting a very lousy sound out of my 6565. I tried all options such as with or without the S connector, 2, 4, and 6 channels, all possible inputs, different hardaware acceleration levels, etc.
The sound output is bad, and the microphone doesn't detect anything. I've noticed that many people were having the same problem. Does this mean that this MB requires a special speaker system? Can't I use two speakers like old times and get stereo sound out of them without any software/hardware tweaks?
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Maria
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I have the same board but I didn't even try onboard sound. My experience with onboard sound on other boards has made me just start with a good pci sound card (sound blaster audigy). Every onboard sound I have tried either sounded bad or worse. If the board had a creative chip on it you may get medium quality. Don't waste money on new speakers to use with the onboard sound, spend the money on a soundcard. Of coarse if money is not an issue you could buy both.

MSI GNB MAX and RICOH R5C476II PCI to Cardbus bridge not working! Help

Why my PCMCIA & CARDBUS Card Reader based on RICOH R5C476II Chipset not
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Yes, sure. I'm trying to use all of five PCI slots, and after slot chnge I,m setting Reset Configuration data in BIOS.
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Realisticly:how much OC with my system?MSI GNB MAX

Ok, How much OC I can get, with my system, if I change the 1.5ghz 266DDR Value RAM to something better. Any suggestions.
I plan to ditch the ram for something better, but my mobo, and CPU aren't that fast compared to the C, and E, and the 64 stuff.
I am using the 2.8B, E7205/i7205 mobo.
Only fan cooling. Using the pipe101, will place the tornado on it. Does the vantec fan card improves my GF performance.
I am just able to OC my card from 350 to 388mhz, 1.09ghz, others got a 420mhz on a supperior system. All using the inno3d 6800gt.. Or I'm looking at an "old" system already.
The OC FSB is just up to 153. I read somewhere that it is useless/not worth to OC this system.
So what do you think?
my system is in the signature

I would not push further than 160 FSB, you can corrupt your disks since PCI /AGP are not locked. Usually PCI frequency above 38 MHZ is not considered safe and 150 FSB corresponds to 37.5 MHZ PCI frequency. I corrupted my 30 GB WD at 160 FSB.
I have GNB Max, P4 3.06HT, 2x 512MB KVR DDR333 (CAS2.5 rated). I oveclocked the system to 150 FSB, P4 is running as 3.45GHz@600FSB (HT is on), with dual channel DDR300 memory (2-3-3-6 timings). System is 100% stable after testing with Linux kernel compile, Prime 95, 3DMark benchmarks. The performance gain in CPU intensive benchmarks is almost the same as increase in FSB frequency, which is 12.5%, since RAM overclocks in sync with CPU.
If you settle at 150 FSB, your DDR266 will be running as DDR300. You can test it with its given SPD values and if not stable you can reduce CAS setting one step, i.e. from CAS2.5 to CAS3. If none of these are possible, you can upgrade with DDR400.
I use Vantec Fan card with my GF4, but it did not help me increase my overclock. However, I removed the fan on my GF4 (heat sink is not removed just the fan) after trying to increase the overclock. Vantec Fan card is much more silent compared to the Thermaltake fan and copper heat sink combo. I still can overclock as before but do not need to put up with the noise of Thermaltake fan.
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Compro Personal Cinema GF4-Ti4200 64MB (oc 285/570)
SB Live!
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GNB Max-SR......What Video Card??

What video card upgrade.....MSI-FX-5600-VTD256 or what?
Running the MS-6565(v2) GNB Max with Bios 2.2.
1g Kingmax in duel mode
P4-2.53
MSI-G4Ti4600 agp4x
Thinking it's time for a DX9 card.
Thinking about the Radeon 9600 Pro but I
here there are problems with the GNB and
Radeon cards.
Thanks
Jutias

The Ti4600 will trash the FX5600 in any situation and the Radeon9600 in most situations.
If you want to upgrade the minimum that would be considered an upgrade is a Radeon9700, but a 9800/ 9800 pro/ FX5900F/ FX5900U are better choices.
You can also wait since the Ti4600 can run pretty much anything on the market right now with AA at a reasonable frame rate, and upgrade towards the begining of 2004 when the 2'nd generation of DX9 cards starts shipping (these are the estimates right now).

GNB Max temps and worries

Okies, I have a question / problem... maybe?
My MB, after being turned off for 30 minutes, on bootup, going DIRECTLY into the Bios, shows, under PC Health, a temp of 51C and climbs to 57..varying to..58.
Now I have the 3.06 GHZ Intel chip.
(No, I really don't care about anyone else's temp if they are overclocking or using something like a 2.4)
No overclocking anything.
Bios 2.2 and I did as Asaaf suggested and changed the thingys to 134 and 1.525.
I have an Alpha PAL8942 - which is supposed to be a decent heatsink on the P4.
IS THIS NORMAL / USUAL or not? If not, then should I take the sink off and re-apply the Artic Silver and try for "better"?
Oh, and MB temp is at 41C. - But I didn't mess with tha because the fan came on the MB attached.
Thank you in advance for your response.

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Originally posted by scorpes
I have a p4 3,06 ghz with standaard P4 cooler and GNB MAX with a total of 6 fans and my normal cpu temp is: 54c and system temp is 35c, and mine cpufan speed is around 3700 rpm (says pcalert)
but if i play a game such as unreal 2003, my cpu is getting very hot: between 80c/85c and my vcore is 1,4
AND MSI SAYS IT'S NORMAL THAT THE TEMPERATURE IS THIS HIGH?
(http://www.msi.com.tw/program/e_service/forum/viewindex.php?threadid=13840&boardid=10&styleid=1)
MSI GNB MAX (ms-6565) motherboard
P4 3,06 ghz processor with standaard p4 cooler
1024 mb DDR 266 mhz (dual) memory
Geforce 4 mx videocard
60Gb Maxtor ATA133 HD
Promedium Mars case with a total of 6 fans
I have had the same problems. The cpu temperature was about 52c when the using was idle.
When the using was more then 80% the temperature was rising in some secons over the 75c.,after replace the cooler there where no more problems. He was not realy good placed on the cpu
Now the temperature is between 46c and 52c.
MSI GNB MAX (ms-6565) motherboard
P4 3,06 ghz processor with standaard p4 cooler
2x512 mb DDR 266 mhz (dual) memory
MSIGeforce 4 ti4800SE
80Gb Maxtor ATA133 HD
60Gb Seagate Baracuda ATA100

Very high temp. with GNB MAX

Hello, i have a problem with my MSI GNB MAX motherboard and my p4 3,06 ghz
My cpu temperatures are very high, with a maximum of 85/86c,,, is this normal??
Anyone else having a similar problem like this?
MSI GNB MAX (ms-6565) motherboard
P4 3,06 ghz processor with standaard p4 cooler
1024 mb DDR 266 mhz (dual) memory
Geforce 4 mx videocard
60Gb Maxtor ATA133 HD
Promedium Mars case with a total of 6 fans
(not overclocked)

If Vcor is 1.4 (I'm running 1.525 but reads 1.47 in PCAlert), AND fsb is set for 134, AND your HSF is running AND has good contact, there is no way for it to be that hot. The stock HSF is a pretty good part. I would suggest getting a temperature probe and touching it to the base edge of the HSF to see if you are really that hot. In Bios, I have the cut off threshold at 65C and alarm at 63C. I dont know the exact conversion but 86C is near hot enough to boil water. The laquer from the chip would probably begin to melt and create an odor.

Memory on GNB MAX

Hi there, i have a queestion about memory type for the GNB MAX, in the specifications it says that the type of memory should be 2100 (266), but can i use another newer? for example one memory at 2700? i know that maybe the performance is not the same.. but it is possible to use it?
Thanks in advance

I belive it would work, but the speed would be set lower asuming you havent touched somthing in BIOS. If its on 'by SPD' in BIOS that is.
To run it any faster, you have to overclock youre CPU. Read some about it here in the Forum:https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?board=27.0

Games and GNB Max

Oh Joy, more problems. None of the games that the kid had will run on this machine. I've been to the ATI website and they show no issues with any of the games other than Battlefield 1942. However on EAs forums, apparantly they are having problems with one of the expansions. I'm sure that if the problems turn out to be MSI related, I'll get no help.

I had the same problem Radeon 9700 pro / GMB Max mobo. this is what I did,
uninstalled all video drivers from the computer. /reboot
put 256 in the agp apeture size
installed the latest drivers from ATI , I think its Cat 3.2 plus the control panel drivers. /reboot
then I disabled fast write in the smartgart control panel
all is well since then, I play lots of games online and off
and I havent had any problems. its been 3 weeks now since I build this system and all is good. I also ran the bench mark, did see a diffrence with the fast write turned off, but not a Substantial diffrence.
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GNB-MAX-FISR Heat Solution

Thanks to a previous post and some other help, I think I've finally fixed my overheating problem (although MSI has yet to return my call.)
The GNB Max-FISR board defaults the Voltage under the "Frequency/Voltage Control" to 1.75. Apparently the max for the 3.06 Intel chip is 1.5.
Also, I had not applied thermal compound to the chip when attaching the heat sink.
After performing both functions the chip running full out hangs out around 60 degrees C. This information REALLY should be in FAQ!!!

it is a 350W power supply..
The DBraket reports all red in 1,3,4 and a green in 2.. the manual claims that the system will hang there if the memory module is bad or installed improperly..
i can't imagine that the memory is bad, since it's brand spanking new.. and i've seated and reseated them a thousand times..
do I have the wrong memory?
I have DDR266 PC2100.. the manual seems to suggest that it might only support DDR533 or DDR400..
- dc

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