Goldenvs. Gaming Edition

About to buy a GTX 970 for my son's new PC build (Christmas and graduation gift).
I am strongly leaning towards MSI vs. Asus, EVGA or Zotac due to what I read about the build quality and cooling. Do I need Golden edition due to better backplate and copper and factory OC? Or will I be just as happy without the backplate and regular pipes and factory OC? I did some OC 5-10 years ago on CPU and memory, so I am not totally unfamiliar with how to do it.
And, if in a year he decides to go SLI will the Golden Edition still be in production? I realize I can SLI a Gaming GTX 970 with it but then I lose the factory OC and backplate on the second card so why wouldn't I just get the gaming version now? About $50-60 difference in price

Personally I would wait until January/February (yes I did read it's for Christmas etc). Therefore after new year it's very likely, in most places, that prices will drop, especially if nvidia would announce new GPU chip like 980Ti or 990.
Golden Edition does look nicer just because it has this backplate+gold instead of red (red is standard for MSI Gaming, so that's why gold looks so "special"). But apart from that, performance is exactly the same, and I would simply go for Gaming edition one. Also once warranty goes out (3 years I believe?) you can always paint it your way
You could pre-order either one on retailer's website, and just make sure they have them in stock before Christmas (usually says like "Re-Stocked in 2 weeks or on 20th December") so it's not late Christmas present

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