Good Fretless Bass Libraries?

I've spent quite a bit of time checking out multisampled fretless bass libraries. As far as I've been able to tell, the most expressive, natural sounding libraries are the following:
_Yellow Tools Majestic_ – Contains all the basses in Yellow Tools' "Pure:e-Basses" libraries, Volumes 1 and 2, plus additional samples.
_Ueberschall Liquid Instrument Series: Electric Bass_ – Apparently these are the same samples that are available in Celemony's Melodyne Sound Library (MSL) - Electric Bass
_Spectrasonics Bass Legends_ – The complete library on CD-ROM, not the CD-Audio version.
Does anyone have any experience with any of those libraries in Logic Pro? I'm specifically interested in the quality, versatility, and realism of the fretless bass sounds in these or other libraries.
Thanks!

apostol13:
Sorry...it never occurred to me that there might be folks unfamiliar with the instrument, but that's probably an assumption I shouldn't have made.
By "fretless bass" I mean *fretless electric bass* of four or more strings. I do not mean the acoustic or upright bass ("double bass"), which also is a fretless instrument. I mean specifically the kind of bass—and especially the style of articulation, glissandos, slap, pop, buzz, vibrato, "growl", and other accompanying nuances—pioneered by Jaco Pastorius, and subsequently exemplified by such players as Michael Manring, Patrick O'Hearn, Kim Stone, Victor Wooten, Steve Bailey, and literally hundreds more highly accomplished players who have explored the expressiveness of the instrument. It is often (mistakenly) call a "fretless bass guitar", but there are may traditionalists who object to the electric bass being called a guitar.
Jaco's bass tells the story. He took a Fender Jazz Bass body, attached a Fender Precision Bass neck to it, ripped the frets out of the fretboard, and voilà—instant fretless bass. Fender and many other companies now manufacture fretless basses, but that wasn't the case when Jaco created his.
Anyhow, there is a half-decent fretless bass in the GarageBand instrument library, but it's very rudimentary. It's multi-sampled, but the velocity gradations and their corresponding nuances in the sample sounds don't come close to capturing the full range of expression of which the instrument is capable. BTW, I own a Pedulla Buzz-Bass (4-string fretless), which I play as needed within the limits of my skill. But I'm don't have Jaco's chops; there are times when I need a good fretless bass library.

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