Goodbye Entourage, Hello Mail!

We just upgraded to Exchange Server 2007 allowing me and others in our organization to use Snow Leopard's Exchange client. Wow!
Between a natural impulsiveness and a visceral contempt for all things Microsoft (despite us being Microsoft developers), first step I removed Office 2008 completely along with my Entourage data files.
Whereas 21 months of my email took up 6GB of file space on our Exchange server, the same email took up close to 36GB on my MacBook Air, this despite my having gone through the awkward process of compacting the data base a few months ago. So first dividend: 30GB of additional HD space! Huge on a 128GB drive, especially when I was previously down to under 5GB.
Next benefit: Goodbye, Entourage! No more constant crashing, increasingly sluggish performance, no HTML support, no access to Exchange global address list, inability to see my iPhone messages and numerous other inane and insane bugs and deficiencies (compared with Outlook) such as listing 'sent' search results by sender (me) rather than by recipient.
Just being able to forward HTML formatted emails, paste HTML content into emails, view my iPhone sent emails, easily send emails to all or a group of our staff...
And so far I have seen no problem opening, modifying, creating Word, Excel and PowerPoint files using Pages, Numbers and Keynote.
What joy!
Upgrading from Exchange server 2003 to 2007 cost us over $10K...and it was worth it. A while back we started to buy our staff MacBook Pros, even to run Windows. Now they are beginning to convert to running Snow Leopard full time.

Satcomer,
Thanks. I forwarded to our sys admin.
The joy continues. My Air runs a multiple faster and without the fan running (Entourage had become more and more unstable and had begun to consume total CPU spontaneously). And Mail is a pleasure to use as in it just works.
And Microsoft has announced they will ship Outlook for Mac in late 2010. Before or after they close their retail stores, I wonder?
Apple rocks!

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d =)

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Hi !
Upgrading OS X from 10.2.8 to 10.4 Tiger
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Hello Ramponnet and welcome to the discussions.
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Goodbye Entourage, Hello Mail!

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