Goods return from customer in third party business process
hi all sd gurus
here I ve adoubt regarding returns in third party business process query is how a customer send his foulty goods n how he gets his credit note plz explain eleborately plz help me out
thankx in advance
santosh
It has not been addressed in standard SAP. For further detais, go through Note 751609 - Returns for third-party process (cancellation)
thanks
G. Lakshmipathi
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Can I know what is the process for us to do Good Return from customer?
Can I know what is the process for us to do Good Return from customer?
hi
this ques need to be posted in sd forum..
to answer this u can use order type RE to create Return order and then u can do the goods receipt..
or u can use the process mentioned in first reply.
regards
CMM -
Third Party Business Process Within Purchasing /IM(Without SD)
Hi Friends,
We are planning to implement third party order process within Purchasing to procure the office stationary materials for the business.
The problem here is how to deal with the materials returns to supplier after original invoice is processed?.
1. Requisition created
2. PO created in 30-Jan-2007
3. Material supplied and Goods Receipt done. in 31-Jan
4. Vendor submits invoice to Payable section and Invoice also processed
till 31st Jan-07
5. Now user would like to return the materials to vendor for wrong material or poor quality on <b>1st Feb</b>. Since invoice is already processed... how to account this returns in next invoice payment is the question.
I tried looking for the above business scenario(material returns) in various places, but no luck. Appreciate, if you could give me pdf relevant to above process or suggest possible solution.
Regards
KKHi Stev,
Many thanks for your prompt response. I do agree that this process should be done through normal PR/PO with account assignment for direct consumption's.
In my view, Third party through SD will have more advantage in billing the customer apart from vendor invoice. Without SD, we can still take the advantage of third Party process, in terns of user address management(mandatory) in the PR and analysis point of view. Conceptually they do serve the purpose more or less same within Purchasing without SD.
The problem here in the both the process is invoice processing, as huge amount of PR/PO will be raised for low value items ranging from $10 to $300. Vendor will be submitting the consolidated invoice by weekly or monthly. Since MIRO only provides PO creation date and not GR/Movements Posting date in the selection criteria, it would be quite difficult to include the GR reversals/returns, after the original invoice processed for the order created in previous period. Moreover, this will increase the workload on Accounts payables in entering invoices for small amount.
The above is the situation for explained case.
1. Invoice Processed for the Pur.Orders created in Jan-07(One inv against many po's)
2. Reversals/Returns of material taken place on 1st -Feb for the same order which is created and paid in Jan.
Only solution I could think of is to enable ERS and generate invoice GR based. This would cater for Invoice processing and credit memo for reversals/returns.
However, appreciate, if you could share your expertise to overcome the issue and give your valuable comments on the process.
Regards
Kumar -
Regardign sap mm elobarate the Third party business process .
Hi
Can any body share the some light on the sap mm
Third party business scanario how it mapped in sap what prerequsite are needed for this it will be helpful with one example ,thanks.
Thanks and Regards,
shaikh.Hi Shaik,
Please refer the below link it may help you............
http://help.sap.com/bestpractices/BBLibrary/Documentation/J54_BPP_EN_US.doc -
In 3 rd party business before vendors invoice (MIRO) we can create invoice to customer(VF01) . In the following scenario how can we justify
Here the case is customer ordered 50 quantity of material. And vendor delivered only 30 quantity of material how can we invoice customer for 50?
ThanksIt is not a standard configuration.
Sales Invoice for 3rd party is not allowed before MIRO. Because in copy ctrl. between OR and F2 for item cat. TAS - billing qnty. - is "F" - which means w.r.t. Invoice Receipt qnty.
Standard system has been modified in your case.
According to Standard system it is compulsory to do a invoice receipt.
However, in certain businesses they need invoice to be raised before MIRO. Mostly because customers pay late and companies want to raise bills as early as possible. For short receipt - customers raise Debit notes.
Thanks -
Dear all,
Customer orders quantity 1000kg and return 800kg for that sales order. In this case, (1000-800) = 200kg will treat as loss. In addition, we will delivery 200kg to customer for compensation.
How can I solve this case?
Best Regards,
AmyDear Amy,
I need further clarification regarding your query
You made sales order against a product A : 1000 Kg
Invoice will be booked for 1000 Kg
You have made Return Order for Product A: 800 Kg
Credit Note for Return Order : 800 Kg
Adjusted your Return Credit Note with the invoice.
Sales Balance : 200 Kg remaining.
Please confirm the scenario.
Regards
Shah -
Third party customization process
pls send me third party customization process.
It's very urgent.
pls.....................................................http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/e6/4a6dc89e0311d189b70000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
THIRD PARTY SCENARIO
in third-party order processing, your company does not deliver the items requested by a customer. Instead, you pass the order along to a third-party vendor who then ships the goods directly to the customer and bills you. A sales order may consist partly or wholly of third-party items. Occasionally, you may need to let a vendor deliver items you would normally deliver yourself.
Process Flow
the processing of third-party orders is controlled via material types. Material types define whether a material is produced only internally can be ordered only from third-party vendors, or whether both are possible. For example, a material that is defined as a trading good can only be ordered from a third-party vendor. However, if you manufacture your own finished products, you may also want, from time to time, to be able to order the same type of product from other vendors.
Processing Third-Party Orders in Sales
Third-party items can be created automatically by the system, depending on how your system is set. However, you can also change a standard item to a third-party item during sales processing manually.
Automatic third-party order processing:-
if a material is always delivered from one or more third-party vendors, you can specify in the material master that the material is a third-party item. During subsequent sales order processing, the system automatically determines the appropriate item category for a third-party item: TAS. To specify a material as a third-party item, enter BANS in the Item category group field in the Sales 2 screen of the material master record.
Manual third-party order processing
In the case of a material that you normally deliver yourself but occasionally need to order from a third-party vendor, you can overwrite the item category during sales order processing. For a material that you normally deliver yourself, you specify the item category group NORM in the material master.
If, as an exception, you use a third-party material, change the entry TAN to TAS in the ItCa field when processing the sales document. The item is then processed as third-party item.
If address data for the ship-to party is changed in the sales order in third-party business transactions, the changed data will automatically be passed on to purchase requisition and also to the purchase order ,if one already exists. In the purchase order, you can display the address data for the ship-to party in the attributes for the item.
You can only change the address data for the ship-to party in the sales order for third-party business transactions, and not in the purchase order.
Processing Third-Party Orders in Purchasing
when you save a sales order that contains one or more third-party items, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition in Purchasing. Each third-party item in a sales order automatically generates a corresponding purchase requisition item. During creation of the requisition, the system automatically determines a vendor for each requisition item. If a sales order item has more than one schedule line, the system creates a purchase requisition item for each schedule line.
Purchase orders are created from purchase requisitions in the usual way. For more information about creating purchase orders, see the Purchasing documentation. During creation of the purchase order, the system automatically copies the delivery address of your customer from the corresponding sales order. In a sales order, you can enter purchase order texts for each third-party item. When you create the corresponding purchase order, the texts are automatically copied into the purchase order. The number of the purchase order appears in the document flow information of the sales order.
All changes made in the purchase order are automatically made in the sales order as well. For example, if the vendor confirms quantities and delivery dates different from those you request and enters them in the purchase order, the revised data is automatically copied into the sales order
you process third-party items by creating a normal sales order. In overview for the order, you can then overwrite the default item category (TAN in the standard system) with the special item category for third-party items: TAS
Billing Third-Party Orders
If relevance for billing indicator for the item category has been set to B (relevant for order-related billing on the basis of the order quantity) in Customizing, the system includes the order in the billing due list immediately. If, however, the indicator has been set to F (relevant to order-related billing on the basis of the invoice quantity), the system does not include the order in the billing due list until an invoice from the vendor has been received and processed by the purchasing department. In the standard system, item category TAS (third-party order processing) has been given billing-relevance indicator F.
In the first case, the third-party order is considered to be completely billed only when the invoiced quantity equals the order quantity of the sales order item. In the second case, each time a vendor invoice is received, a customer invoice is created for the quantity in the vendor invoice and the order is considered to be fully invoiced until the next vendor invoice is received.
If you have activated billing-relevance indicator F for item categories in Customizing, billing can refer to the goods receipt quantity instead of the incoming invoice quantity.
You can control whether the invoice receipt quantity or the quantity of goods received is relevant for billing in Customizing for copying control for billing at item level.
FOR YOUR PROCESS Individual Purchase Orders WELL GIVE THE RIGHT SOLUTION
Individual purchase orders are used when your customer orders goods from you that are not in stock and must be ordered from one or more external vendors.
Process Flow
During sales order entry, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition item. The purchasing department creates a purchase order based on the requisition and the vendor ships the goods directly to you (unlike third party order processing, where the vendor ships directly to your customer). You then ship the goods to your customer. While the goods are part of your inventory, you manage them as part of the sales order stock. Sales order stock consists of stock that is assigned to specific sales orders and cannot be used for other purposes.
Process Flow for 3rd Party Sales
Customize the third party sales in summary:
Prerequisites for 3rd party sales,
Purchasing org,
purchasing group,
assign the Purchase org to company code
assign Purchase org to plant,
should not maintain the stock in material, it should be trading goods,
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and, therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing *--
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Sales Order
VA01
Order Type
Sales org, distr chnl, div
Enter
Sold to
PO #
Material
Quantity
Enter
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created with a third party sales order
VA01
Order Number
Goto Item Overview
Item ->Schedule Item
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created
ME52N
Key in the PR number
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Assign the PR to the vendor and create PO
ME57
Key in the PR number
Toggle the "Assigned Purchase Requisition"
Execute
Check the box next to the material
Assign Automatically button
Click on "Assignments" button
Click on "Process assignment"
The "Process Assignment Create PO" box , enter
Drag the PR and drop in the shopping basket
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Receive Goods
MIGO_GR
PO Number
DN Number
Batch tab , click on classification
Serial Numbers tab
Date of Production
Flag Item OK
Check, just in case
Post
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Invoice
MIRO
Invoice Date
Look for the PO , state the vendor and the Material
Check the box
Click on "Copy"
Purchase Order Number (bottom half of the screen)
Amount
State the baseline date
Simulate & Post
Invoice Number
*Invoice blocked due to date variance
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a delivery order
VL01N
In the order screen , go to the menu Sales Document , select "Deliver"
Go to "picking" tab
State the qty and save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a billing document
VF01
Ensure that the delivery document is correct in the
Enter
Go to edit -> Log
Save
rewards if it helps -
Third party returns from customer to vendor (Urgent)
Hi,
We have an urgent requirement regarding an issue with third party returns from customer.
The scenario required is as follows :
When the customer returns the goods in Third party proccess the goods should be directly returned to the vendor instead of receiving into our plant .
How can we map this bussiness proccess?
Currently the returns are handled as per the standard SAP proccess ie.,
Customer returns the goods> Return order is created>Return delivery created (PGR)>Credit memo created.
In this case we are receiving goods into our plant .Hi Shrikant
1. If delivery of goods is the only issue then you can ask customer to make invoice with Invoice to your company address and Delivery address as the vendor address. Practically it is possible.
2. Then you can make corresponding entries in SAP and regularise it.
Thnx
Nilesh -
How to create COGSuFF0Cwhen goods was returned from customer
Hi,
goods which deliveried from nonvaluated sales order stock was returned from customer and reduce revenue and AR.
so, we need do following process:
create returned sales order〉delivery note and goods receipted-〉billing
the goods can be receipted in sales order stock ,and can be invoiced .
but how to create COGS with returened sales order for nonvaluated sales order stock?Hi
T-CODE :MR21 ,It is used to change the standard price ,we are in the environment that make to order with nonvaluated sales order stock ,so donu2019t need do standard coting .
I konw : With a nonvaluated sales order stock, inventory changes are not reflected in Financial Accounting. The sales order stock is settled to Financial Accounting only after results analysis and settlement of the calculated values (results analysis data) .
for normal process , if billing was created ,then do results analysis and settlement of the calculated values ,COGS will be post in financial accounting
for returen prcoess :
1. created returen sales order and referenced origin billing document.
2. create delivery note and goods receipted in sales order stock which was deliveried to customer stock
3. create billing document and revenue posted in financial accounting
4. do results analysis with returen sales order ,the system show error message: W KJ 816 No object was selected
when used the orign sales order to do results analysis ,but without any change to save !
how to post COGS in financial accounting ,when goods was return from cusromer in the environment that make to order with nonvaluated sales order stock ? -
Costs in Third-Party Business Transaction
In Third Party order processing the value of VPRS is taken from the vendor billing document.
In billing document copying control at item level for position type TAS we have indicator F in the Billing Quantity (FKMGK)
How to setup Customizing so the system determines the cost for third-party order processing from the value of the vendor invoice plus proportional statistic conditions (for example, cash discounts or statistical freight) Now the system only includes the goods value in condition VPRS?Hi,
In third party scenario what ever be vendor invoice value is become cost when creating billing with reference to order
Also billing type F is proper this is for what ever quantity invoiced by vendor same can be copied in customer invoice.
Process :
VA01 - Sales order (item category TAS) >> ME52N - P.R (after SO save) >> ME21N - P.O >> Vendor ship goods to our customer >> MIRO - Vendor Invoice reciept >> VF01- Customer invoice(wrt sales order)
Kapil -
Explain process andsteps involved in returns third party order processing?
explain process andsteps involved in returns third party order processing?
Thanks in Advance.
Nazim.Hi,
when a customer returns the third party delivered material, take it into stock as a return material. We have done this by prefixing an R( R + original material Number) to such return materials. Now we again send this material to the third party who initially supplied it to the customer. For this we generate a subcontracting PO.
After the repair is done, we take the delivery of this material and again send it back to the customer.
This is how we have customized the third party returns.
Regards,
Sadhu Kishore -
Movement type 453 (Transfer posting to own stock from returns from customer
Hi all,
I have problem in goods movement type 453 (Transfer posting to own stock from returns from customer)
it picking from from profit center from in material master under sales:general/plant tab but we need picking from based on account assignment group in the material maser sales org.2.
Other movement types are picking from based on account assignment group only . for that what i can do please help me on this.
K.SatishHi,
In Co controlling are the automatic account assignment is only the default and it on the Priority.
if you think what is picked up from the mm is wrong.
the best way out will be to go with the substitution rule.
based on the movement type use the rule.
hope this is clear , assign points.
With regards
Krishna -
Return from customer to unrestricted stock
Dear Expert,
is there is a way to make the return from the customer from return order to be back to unrestricted stockHi,
No, you can't make the return from customer to the unrestricted stock directly! At least the returned stock must go to the return stock, this is the standard process. After confirmation with quality departement, you can decide the returned stock goes to unrestricted stock, block stock or srcap directly! That's it!
Good day
Tao -
Uploading an XML file from SAP into third party URL
Hi,
I need to Upload an XML file from sap into Third party URL. Can any body tell me the possible ways in SAP to achieve this task. Also explain me the proceedure.
Thanks in advance.
-NamdevSorry. If they only said HTTP/HTTPS and didn't say explicitly web service, it means they don't want it.
One thing I'm not sure is, do you have an URL at the third-party system that you need to contact, or should you provide one at your SAP system that they will contact?
If it is the first one, to send an HTTP request to a given URL using ABAP, you'll find an example here: [SAP Library: Example Program: Executing an HTTP Request|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/1f/93163f9959a808e10000000a114084/frameset.htm]
Sandra -
How to send data from BW to third party
Hi Gururs,
We got one of my requirement that we have to send 2 files (delta and full file) from BW to Third Party system. For the delta files we have to send an after-image and we are using FI datasource.Could anybody can tell how to design it?
1. is that advicable to use the FI datasource directly to infocube as the FI datasource is AIE extractor?
2.Can we the use BWA in APD. If yes how?
3.To send an files to third party which concept can we use APD or OHD. We advised to used OHD ,but the clients are not agreeing. They asking why we cant use APD? They saying APD will be more performance. Could u pls tell why and how?
Thanks in advance...Hi,
It is not advaisable to load FI data to IC directly, must load to DSO first.
- If client asking to use APD, you cah go ahead.
SOURCE - DSO and capture deltas
Transformation
Target - Flat File
Use-
APD helps to identify hidden or complex relationships between data in a simple way. Various data transformations are provided for this purpose, such as statistical and mathematical calculations, and data cleansing or structuring processes
Regards,
rvc
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