Google Chat on iChat (non gmail Google account).

Hi,
I've been trying to sign into Google Talk via iChat but it keeps rejecting the username/password. I can sign in using the Google chat web client with this ID, as well as all the other Google services associated with the account. I'm now on Lion but it was also an issue on Snow Leopard.
Has anyone else experienced this issue?
David

Hi,
My understanding is that when you go to a Google Page you can sign in top right.
Once your Name displays then you can click and hold that to see the Account Setting option.
That will lead you to a page like this
In there "Talk" should be in the My Products Section for the Chat option to work.
If iGoogle is in that section you can go to that page (your iGoogle page) and Chat should load down the left hand side. (or the view I have set up places it there)
iChat should be set up as follows:-
iChat Menu > Preferences > Accounts
Choose the Plus button at the bottom of the list.
In the pane that opens select the top item then choose Jabber as the account type.
Enter the name as it is for logging into Google.
Enter the password you use there.
Now if you have iChat 5 (And I presume iChat 6) you can then enter the Server name in the bits below the Password box
This should be made to read google.com
Click Done.
If this is iChat 4.x.x then you will not be able to change the server there
As the Account will presume the server name is the end of your Email address this will appear in the server Setting tab (As well as the message about Logging in not woring)
Open the server settings tab and change the server name to google.com
This obviously works as an alternative to the iChat 5 method above.
This Help Page seems to say that a "Google account" will work but also has a Note to say a Gmail account is needed to use GoogleTalk.
I have certainly seen people post here to say that they have Non Gmail Google Account and have Enabled talk and then added it to iChat. (AS described above)
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Travls wrote:
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