Got a 648 MAX? Read this...

If you have one of these boards, then I would strongly suggest that you do as me and my mates have done - send it back and get a non-MSI Intel board.
The problems with this board are massive and MSI appears unable to solve them with new BIOS versions.
First off, nobody appears to be able to get 512Mb of RAM working at CAS2 at any RAM speed. This happens with Kingmax, OCZ and Corsair DDR400 memory - we can't get any of our boards to work @ CAS2 even at DDR333. 2 of us can get it working @ DDR400 CAS2.5, but performance is no better than an 845PE running DDR333 CAS2.
Secondly, there are some really annoying keyboard problems that we have all experienced across Win2K and XP - at the login screen the keyboard won't respond and we are unable to press ctrl-alt-del to login. Pressing the power button to shutdown is the only way to do anything about this.
Thirdly, if you use the reset button, have a screwdriver in your other hand, because you WILL need to take the side of the case off to clear the CMOS as the system just locks solid. We initially thought it might be a sticky reset button, but then we all tried it and got the same problem.
This board is bad and MSI isn't admitting it. Don't just take my word for it, read any number of tech support forums and you'll see 648MAX issues all over the place.
Oh and a note to MSI - instead of spending time, effort and money to make your boards pretty by colouring them red, spend the cash you would have spent on that on some better design engineers and a more thorough testing process.

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Originally posted by Addict
This has to be one of the worst boards I have ever owned. I have had nothing but issues with it. And BIOS fixes? I think MSI just likes to increment the numbers.
Anyone tried upping the FSB? Its not possible. I can't even go up 1MHz. That tells me that somethign is seriously wrong.
I'll NEVER buy another MSI product, nor will I recommend them.
I agree that the board doesn't overclock well. I don't O/C so I guess that's one reason I'm not mad about it.
What issues are you having?
It is touchy with Power supplies and DDR400, as are most 648 boards I've seen or read about. Mine has been very stable. The Asus P4S8X I had wouldn't even run DDR333. Asus then released a BIOS which would only run at DDR266 even when set at DDR333(You can go back through the Asusboards forums and see the uproar that caused!).

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Help. 648 Max-L, AGP, Memory, and instability

Everyone -
I just built my first computer and I need help here. This is what I got:
MSI 648 Max-L MB
Corsair 1x512 MB DDR333 (slot 1)
SapphireTech ATI 9500 Pro 128 MB (64MB AAP)
P4 2.4 ghz
This all started when I installed the OS then tried to play battlefield 1942. the game would load fine and 5 minutes in the game would crash to the desktop without any errors. I realized I never installed the MB Sis AGP drivers. I did so and updated the drivers from ATI (when the card is from Sapphire), and errors galore started to surfaces.
I re-installed the OS and the MB drivers. I then installed the AGP drivers from the SapphireCD. I installed the Sis AGP Driver from MSI. I am getting constant errors trying to open windows on the desktop. Everything from folders, msie, notepad, etc. My Event viewer shows errors like "a thread could not be created for this service".
I also noticed dxdiag showed Texture Acceleration as "Not Available". How is that?
I am at a lost here guys. Is my video card bad? is it my memory?

Everything is working.
THe fix was to turn OFF fast writes AND uninstall the AGP MB drivers. No idea why this is...
I have the ATI card drivers, I just do not have the MoBo AGP drivers. I also put in Directx 9.
you gotta check this out...
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,6481129~root=hard~mode=flat
explains pretty well

648 Max Onboard Sound

Hi,
I have just bought a new MSI 648 Max and it works great. Umm, basically i have a simple question. The onboard sound work and it sounds ok, only when i use headphones all i hear are the high and maybe some mids, but absolutly no bass. I have tried it on sever pairs of headphones and they are all the same. I find this a little strage since my previous board had an ALC650 sound processor but it sounded great. I have all the latest software installed and sound drivers but it seems not to make a difference. Can someone please tell me if they have the same problem or if they need further clarification. Thanks in advance.
Razvan Scutaru

Hi,
Hmm, that is strange as i had an AOpen P4 board previously which busted and, it had the ALC650 sound processor onboard but the sound that came out of the front panel/headphones was really good. Anyway I like my MSI 648 Max L. This is not a major issue it was just something which I was kinda annoyed at as I do use my headphones quite a lot. Oh well. If any fixes are available please do keep me posted 8) . Thanks in advance.
Razvan Scutaru

Constant of type C , what has this got to do with reading

Q]     IN the statement
SABC_ACT_READ(4)               VALUE 'READ',
Taken from
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/fc/eb3d5c358411d1829f0000e829fbfe/content.htm
SABC_ACT_READ(4) is a constant of type C , & has a value 4 what has this got to do with reading   pls explain.

In order to Use the Function Module 'AUTHORITY_CHECK_DATASET' , you need to Pass the Exporting Parameter ACTIVITY with a value like given below.
ACTIVITY
Access type, with the following possible values:
- READ: Read file
- WRITE: Change file
- READ_WITH_FILTER: Read file using filter functions
- WRITE_WITH_FILTER: Change file using filter functions
- DELETE: Delete file
These values are defined as constants and one such constant is SABC_ACT_READ with a type char and length 4 with a Value of 'READ' .
The constant is being used in that Function module to check the READ Authorization of the user for the file specified.
Hope this helps.
Vinodh Balakrishnan

648 max , testing base and extended memory

I dont see the thread i answered to one time that someone spoke of using ddr400 with 648 max or max-L board and they were getting testing base and extended memory error from the LED's. Well i just got the same error today and my system would not boot i cut the power to the PS. and turned it back on it would start to boot and hang i could barely get to the windows logo sometimes the vid card wouldnt even boot the logo to the screen. This is with an updated mobo that msi sent me that i had just put in , it seemed to run fine at first then this problem started occuring. The only difference i had in the setup from the previous outdated board was i had the mem in DIMM 3 and not DIMM 1, so i moved the memory back over to DIMM 3 and now the problem is gone. Just something for those of you with the same problem to try.
Oh and i forgot one more issue, i cannot set the dram speed in the bios manually i have ddr 333 it should be 167 mhz so i set it to 4/5 and the system will not boot at all i end up having to reset cmos. I called MSI about that and they told me to just have it set to SPD , I said i know that and im fine with leaving it that way but it should let me set it manually if i wanted to and that i wondered if that had anything to do with the random " testing base and extended memory " problem.

It was probably myt thread...
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/e_service/forum/viewindex.php?threadid=6204&boardid=10&styleid=1
Have done some testing with both DDR333 and DDR400 and my results are in the thread.
Right no I'm using my DDR400 as DDR333, manually set to 167MHz, using DIMM1, and havn't seen any problems. I'll try the DIMM3 to see if I get any changes.
And by the way.. I tried setting my DDR400 manually to 200MHz and it wouldn't boot at all. After a lot of ugly language I finally got it back to the BIOS....after a reset of the CMOS.
Seams like you should use SPD if you want to use the correct freq for your RAM.
Have you tested the new 1.3 BIOS?

Fastest Compatable DDR RAM For 648 MAX?

I've been reading about all these problems people have been having concerning RAM/motherboard combinations, and have concluded that my RAM is what is causing my problems (XP/2000 installation difficulties, unrecognizable Gainward GF4 Ti4200 card, boot up problems). Right now, I have one Kingston Hyper X 512MB DDR434 RAM (which is going out the door soon) installed on my 648 MAX.
I originally thought the video card problem was BIOS related because the only thing recommended by XP was to update the BIOS (said motherboard does not support your video card's features; try updating your BIOS). I tried that through LiveUpdate, and it messed up somehow during the flash, so I tried to restore the original BIOS, but the system was very unstable after that. I'm about to send my motherboard back for an exchange. I just found out by reading some posts here that other people have been having the same problem with a similar RAM/video card setup.
Also, I'm having extreme difficulty installing Win2000. It installed the first time on a test HDD, but on my new one (WD 80GB 7200RPM ATA100), it wouldn't go in at all. ;( It went up to the final file copying part (after entering the serial number), and crashed. It kept doing that, so I gave up and moved on to XP. XP went in fine the first time, but it wouldn't reinstall after that, even with a reformatted drive. Other people are having similar problems, and said that once they swapped out their RAM, their problems were gone.
I'm just looking for the fastest compatible 512MB DDR RAM available for the 648. Thanks.

Heh, funny thing, I was messing around with some BIOS settings, and somehow got my computer to work this afternoon! 8o Reinstalled everything, and was having a good ol time! :D
Then, and even funnier thing happened. I went out this evening, and when I came back, the computer wouldn't work anymore! X( This thing is driving me nuts. I'm definitely gonna pick up either the Corsair or Winbond memory ASAP. Thanks for the replys everyone!
BTW, I've had the hard drive by itself with the jumperless setting from the beginning. Also, it always wants to be the primary drive, even when it's set to slave and attached at the slave connector on the IDE cable. ?( I know that isn't a problem right now cause I just have it by itself on the cable.

MSI 648 max problems, please help

Just put a new machine together and I am having some problems, hopefully someone can help.
My machine seems to run pretty stable in OS, but dies when any game is played. It will crash anywhere from 2 minutes - 45 minutes in the game. Ive tried several games: C&C generals, unreal2, etc with the same results.
Bios are updated and nothing is overclocked. Win XP is fully updated.
Specs:
MSI 648 max, 533fsb
p4 2.4 northwood
Seagate 80gig hd 7200rpm
MSI g4 ti4200
2 - 512mb pc2700 ddr333 dims (double sided)
Antec 350w ps
sb live
48x liteon cdrw
16x liteon dvd
We are using a Kingwin KT-436S-WM case
http://www.kingwin.com/product.asp?cid=15&pid=75
It has a total of 5 fans with intake/exhaust
HSF currently being used is the retail box HSF
With the case sides on, here are temps at idle after 10 minutes in OS:
Proc: 136
System: 91
Vid card: 118
With the case sides off, here are temps after running 10+ minutes in OS:
Proc: 125
System: 86
Vid card: 114
Here is the error that pops up (after crashing) when playing Command and Conquer: Generals:
Technical Difficulties
Sorry a serious error occured
Thanks in advance

Well my roomate cancelled the memory test after 12 hours, so I dont know those results.
I do know that after removing 1 of the DIMMS, the machine seemed to be stable playing games.
I sure wish MSI would have stated it only accepted 1 double sided DIMM.. especially when the reccomend Kingston ram, which is double sided......
Me and my roomate BOTH bought this motherboard, while my roomate only bought 2 DIMMS of 512, I bought 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So now it looks like we need to return these motherboards and get new ones... I HAVENT EVEN GOT MINE OUT THE BOX!!!!!!!!
Any reccomendations on an MSI motherboard (or any) that support double sided DIMMS? I am looking for 3 slots...
thanks...
Any other advise on how to get this motherboard to work with all this ram would help too, so we dont have to RMA through newegg....
Anyone from MSI read this board?????
X( :O ?(

AGP 8X and Fastwrite with MX440 8X on 648 Max L

Hi,
I own the 648 Max L and I have just bought a MSI Geforce4 MX440 8X. I have SiS Agp drivers 1.15 installed and:
1. AGP 8X does not work although I can "enable" it
2. It says that the board does not support AGP Fastwrite but the graphic card does.
Can I please have some feedback on these issues thank you.
Razvan

I take it you're seeing this with the AGPUtil? I have found the same results with my mobo, but (and this is a but) I think it's just reading the info wrong. ATI SmartGart lists AGP 8x and Fastwrites working, while agputil does not.
Also, if you read the info file that came with those drivers (if you got them from MSI), certain motherboards are not compatible with the newer AGP drivers, and thus use v1.12. I've been looking for the AGPUtil that came with that version to double check, but haven't been able to find it.
[Edited] Maybe someone who has either of the two boards with the newest AGP drivers can offer their results as well...

Msi 648 max working with ati 9700

Hi,
I got it working (100% no crashes) today on windows 2k adv server:
msi 648 max (6585 early version), ati 9700 (1st version), and mostly the latest drivers/software, e.g. msi mb bios v1.2, sisagp47.exe, siside47.exe, ms directx9 (dx90_redist.exe), wxp-w2k-radeon-7-83-030120a1-007447c-efg.exe, control-panel-7-83-030120a1-007447c-efg.exe.
Before you get happy, now I want to replace the 648 motherboard with something better. It is a total waste of money to try running an ati 9700 on an msi 648 max.
Summary: I had to set my DRAM memory clock to 2.5, fast write off, and agp to 4x. There are a bunch of other bios settings and ATI control panel setting to keep it from crashing. If anyone is pathetic enought (like me) to want more information, then post your questions.
The only reason I'm posting my results is because I got all my help from people on this board. BTW I'm running Corsiar CMX512-3200C2 (at 2.5 sucks), and Antec Truepower 550w power supply (which is not p.o.s).
Good luck and save your money....
Thanks all.

Hi,
I agree. My Bios is at version 1.2 because I flashed it a couple months/weeks ago and that was the current version at the time. Now they have up to 1.4 but I did not need it.
Bye.

648 MAX + Radeon 9500

This is a BIG problem I got, I've been a happy owner of the 648MAX MainBoard from MSI for 3 months.
Finally I bought a Radeon 9500 card, and in my ecstatic mood I installed the drivers and software. Everything seemed fine. But then after 10 mins in windows boom, freeze. I rebooted, same again. Then I started searching around on the net the 10mins I had. Found out that the 648 chipset was incompatible with radeon. I thought ? so I found the new BIOS, installed and in a hope of stability I rebooted. But NO, the same error. But this time ONLY in games.
Now I want these cards to work with eachother, I've tried every trick that is said but stil the same problems.
What to do? Do I really have to go to my vendor and return the Mainboard for a new one that actually is compatible?
This is a nut I want to break!

I had the same pb with a MB 648 Max and Radeon 9700 pro, and upgrading the bios to version 1.4 solve the problem. I also download the latest version of catalyst drivers, with radeonator software, and everything (finally) work fine, without need to downclock the video card.
But I guess you already try that, so maybe it's a specific pb with radeon 9500 ?

648 max + 9700 boot issues - help

hi
i have a radeon 9700 (rev 1.3) and the 648 max - L and everything is working fine when i am in windows but sometimes when i cold boot i get no screen and it doesnt sound like i am booting up. i do see some hard drive activity but thats about it. i try reset and sometimes it will work and others not, also when i install a program that needs to reboot sometimes it wont - basicaly the same problem as cold boot.
i have a enermax 430 and so i doubt it is a psu problem, also like i said when i am in xp i have been able to play 3d games and run 3dmark and have yet to have any crashes.
anyone have any solutions or suggestions as to what the problem is and how to fix it?

Ok MSI called me back finally, I explained situation and told him that i have read other people with 0209 boards have had the same issues.
He is cross shipping me a new 648max-L board I asked about it being backordered because of reading this thread and he said it should be shipped today or tomorrow so maybe they got boards in? Or maybe they modified a board that they are going to send me?
He originally wanted me to send mine back and they would send me out a new one but i told him that i have no place to store the processor for that long of a time and i would be without a computer so he took my credit card number and put a hold of 100 dollars on it, once they receive my old one i will be credited.
So all in all, i will be getting a new mobo and rev 1.3 radeon 9700 pro and i should be ready to go.
Here is an email i received from MSI for those of you that are worried about resolving these issues.
Dear Paul,
I've just confirmed this with my collegue and he said that the first shipments need to be reworked. Please send the board over to me directly and I'll take care of it for you. Please include your address and make sure you get a tracking number for the package.
Attention: Peter Hong
MSI Computer
901 Canada Court
City of Industry, CA 91748
Sincerely,
Peter Hong
http://www.msicomputer.com
MSI is your TOP choice for DDR Solutions!
E-mail: [email protected]
1.626.913.0828
1.626.581.7721 Fax

Wanna OC msi 648 max

I wanna try and oc this damn thing and see how it goes but my bios is retarded. if i change anything in it it will not start. no post no screen no nothing sits there and i think hdd light goes on but nothing is actually going. for me to go back i have to clear cmos and i have tried diff bios versions and all the same. so what the heck can i do? i plan on buyin new board and drives soon as seeing all msi crap sux. dont know y i bought em all there a bunch of liars. so if anyone got a way other than buying new board cuz thats on way just wanna see what this one got.

Don't bather yourself I have the same problem.
:O MSI FAKED US ALL A BIG ONE. The problem is in the option AGP/PCI Frequency (MHz)
It doen't work and my clue is:
1- When I adjust my CPU FSB more than 110 MHz (PCI > 36.66 MHZ) and set this option to 66/33 the computer boots normally until it starts loading the O.S. and errors saying that the OS cannot start due to lost system files, or Read
Write error to Aux device, or it hangs.
2- When I set this option to 80/40 and the CPU FSB to Auto (100 MHz), the computer boots normally and load the O.S. normally and everything goes just fine. and Sandra software reports the PCI clock frequency as 33 MHz.
Thats to say that the PCI/CPU FSB ratio is fixed at 1/3 regardless to any value selected in this option.
My system is:
Msi 648 MAX ver1.0 HT ready S.N.(648 Max0304165360)
Intel P4 2.4Ghz 512KB bus 100 Mhz
Msi MX440SE-T AGP 64MB DDR
WD 80GB 7200 HDD
Samsung 52-24-52 CD-RW
Creative modem blaster v.90 di5655
P.S. Logic 350W
Win 98SE & WinXp

"How do I defrag my mac?" "You don't need to, it does it itself" Fragmented Free Space: 99%. READ THIS NOW

Just a heads up for my fellow Mac users.
"How do I defrag my mac?"
"You don't need to, ever. It does it automatically."
"But it's running really slowly..."
"Repair permissions or something. Defragging is not necessary on a mac."
Techtool pro is now defragmenting my mac. Looks like the job's going to take about 4 hours. I thought I'd give everyone the truth about this while waiting (on a different computer obviously)
The truth is, Apple's defragmenting system ***** BALLS. It has two massive, massive flaws which I feel people urgently need to be made aware of.
#1: It only defragments files up to 20mb. If you're a movie producer, a songwriter, a photographer, or anything which involves working with many massive files, the built in defragmenting program WILL NOT HELP YOU IN THE SLIGHTEST.
#2: It only defragments FILES. Free space is ignored, which eventually causes absolutely hrrendous problems.
Let me give you an analogy here. Imagine your mac's hard drive is a bookcase with lots of books on it.
File fragmentation is when it can't find a gap in the bookcase big enough for the entire book, so it breaks the book into pieces and srotes them in different gaps.
Space fragmentation is when there are gaps all over the bookcase, instead of all the books being pushed to one side so there's a long gap elsewhere.
Apple's built in defragmenting program will only fix the first problem - and even then, it will ignore any book bigger than 20 pages long, if you have bigger books which are broken up, you're screwed.
Why is space fragmentation a problem? It's a problem because it directly LEADS TO file fragmentation. If there is a large block of free space all in one part of the disk, then an entire file can be written to it. However, if there is no single free block big enough for the file, it HAS NO CHOICE but to fragment it.
So basically you might have 5 GB free and want to save a 2GB imovie project. That's cool. But what you may not realize is, the biggest single area of free space is only say 600MB. Others are around 300 and 400. Therefore the file MUST be fragmented into all these different areas, which wouldn't be necessary if all the free space was in one area of the disk.
But apple's built in tools don't do anything about this, at least not in Tiger. PErhaps this has been fixed in later installations but I'm almost certain the same issues exist in leopard.
Your only option is to buy a defragmenting program. I know this ***** but believe me, this IS something you NEED to do if your activity on your laptop involves disk space - intensive projects. I'm using TechTool Pro which has been recommended to me as hands down the best. It has a number of other functions as well, right now I'm only using the defragmenting tools but it has others for repairing damages disk sectors and other mantainence tools. There are other programs such as iDefrag out there as well.
Why am I telling you this? I'm telling you because I experienced mind numbing frustration trying to get answers from the Apple community. Google it or ask the question yourself and you will most likely be whacked in the face with the intro to my post here - "You don't need to, it's not necessary, macs do it themselves, blah blah blah"
Even worse, Apple's own webpage on the subject is nothing short of a disaster. It basically says "You PROBABLY don't need to defragment, unless you work with large files." That's it. You'd expect it to have an extra section saying "If you DO happen to work with large files, here's what you do" but no such section exists. It basically says "You don't need to defrag most of the time, and on the rare occasions when you do, well, too bad, you're screwed."
I urge everyone to heed this or they will be tearing their hair out at how slow their mac has become and the fact that no one will offer any meaningful advice other than the standard, generic, "Repair permissions" - the Mac equivelant of "have you tried turning it off and on again".
My disk is at 99% fragmented free space. NINTEY NINE PERCENT. In other words, although I have 25GB of free space, there was not a single contiguous block on the entire machine. I had almost 5,000 fragmented files as well, mostly imovies. Defragmenting got this down to about 300.
The defrag job is taking more than 4 hours and will probably go on to take a lot longer than that. This machine has been slowly grinding to a halt over the last 3 years and now I know why.
Please don't listen to anyone. Get yourself a defragmenting folder, and email Apple to tell them it's just not good enough to give their customers half assed answers and inadequate basic maintainence tools. Mac OS X must literally be the only operating system out there where something as basic as defragmenting is not only almost impossible to get answers on, but actually costs money to fix once you DO get answers.
As customers, we should not accept this any longer. I intend to spread the above message far and wide.
I LOVE Apple. I've always been "a mac" and I always will be. This in no way a mac bashing post or a windows endorsing one. I wouldn't switch back to windows if you gave me a million euro.
But sometimes even the best developers can royally f*ck up. This is one of them.
There is no readon people should be forced to put up with this crap. Absolutely no reason at all. I've had 3 months of crappy performance with no official explanation whatsoever.
Apple if you're reading this: I love your products. I'm a loyal customer. People are more forgiving than you think, speak up, admit you dropped the ball, and DO something about it in your next updates to Lion and whichever versions of Leopard you are still actively maintaining.
There's no shame in admitting when you're wrong. The shame is in hiding behind false promises and walls of silence.
--Loyal customer, but feeling rather betrayed by all this.

The old rule of thumb was to keep 10-12 GB free. Any lower than that and you will start to have trouble. I was very close to that for a long time and never had any complaints. Now, Lion "encourages" 20% free space (on my newer 250 GB drive) so I try to keep it with more than 50 GB free.
Do you still have the original memory in that machine too? The metal plate you have to remove in the battery compartment also provides access to the RAM. Your machine will take 2 GB of RAM, possibly 3. You definitely want to max that out too.
Regardless, you definitely need a new hard drive. When Apple switched to PC components, they had to take a quality hit. These 2.5" notebook hard drives are not very reliable. I'm surprised your hard drive hasn't died by now. I usually get a new hard drive with every major OS upgrade. A $ 50 investment every couple of years is no big deal.
Unfortunately, you (and I) suffer from being an early adopter in 2006. Those 32-bit machines only accept 2 GB RAM (maybe 3) and are only 32-bit so they can't be upgraded to Lion. Because of this limitation, you won't see as dramatic an improvement as you would with a 2007 machine. If you run more than a couple of applications, your hard drive is always going to have to be doing some VM work. My 2006 machine has even lost its bluetooth. I gave it to my brother. My very similar 2007 Macbook is still running great.
So, you must get a new hard drive because your old one is likely on death's door. If you don't have at least 2 GB - get it. If you can't afford a new machine, you might want to consider an SSD. That might help mitigate your RAM limitations. You can spend from $ 100 to $ 350 and get a dramatic speed improvement.

SiS 648 MAX problem!

Hello!
I have a very annoying problem with my MSI 648 MAX board.
The computer freezes and reboots when i put in another DIMM in it.
I have two identical TwinMos 256mb PC3200 DDR modules.
They both work fine when they arent used together.
When i put in the other one, the sympthoms i described above happen.
I have formatted c: and tryed with both WinXP and Win2000.
I'm using the latest SiS AGP & IDE drivers.
Nothing in the system is overclocked.
I have upgraded with the latest bios.
Other system speccs:
P4 2.0 (400mhz).
ASUS GF4 Ti4200.
80gb Seagate.
350W "Noname" Powersupply.
Is this a known problem and will I just have to face the fact that this won't work? :(

It's a JNC Power Supply 350W.
The amps are:
+3.3V = 24A
+5V = 35A
+12V = 12A
-12V = 0.8A
-5V = 0.5A
It has worked fine with this board before and with another board (Abit th7 II raid).
The problem itself is getting worse, windows freezes with just 1 memory-stick now :(
Formatted once again and tried WinXP and Win2k without any success..
The Memory / GFX works fine in another computer.

648 max, Win98 NDIS.vdx driver prob?

Just installed Win98 on my new 648 Max.
It installed ok, but on statup it says error: NDIS problem
(forget the exact wording), you must restart computer.
I bypassed NDIS.vdx with safe mode step by step
start, and removed Dial up Network in control panel,
as seems this is what uses this driver.
It now boots up OK , but of course no dial up network!
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