Got my GS30. Fans are loud =(

Hi,
New to forum, first post.
Got the GS30 with the gaming dock today (released early in Sweden for some reason, dont know why).
Anyway I was planning to make a full review but now I'm contemplating sending it back instead and dont want to unpack more than necessary.
The reason I want to resend is that the idle fan is annoyingly high. With the computer just sitting beside me doing nothing the fan keep going on and off. The first level is OK but it often reaches second level which is really annoying and every once in a while it goes to 3rd gear and scares the cat... The CPU temp reached 75C at IDLE, that is just not good enough.
The fan-speed is not adjustable in bios or with any included software. I think it could work if the fan was constantly running at a really low speed but as it is set up now it's really disturbing.
I bought the GS30 because I saw it as the best of two worlds. A really powerful ultrabook for work and then a really nice gaming rig for home. I dont want to have a separate comp at home for gaming and I want a portable, silent and fast computer for work.
I will decide in the weekend weither to resend, if anyone has any tips on what can be done about the fan that would be really awsome. (or if MSI has planned to update BIOS or sumthin).
If I do end up keeping the rig I'll unpack and make a review.
Some quick impressions of the laptop itself:
* really nice keyboard
* nice build quality overall IMO
* diodes on the front looks nice but is nothing for the office, hoping that it is adjustable
* I like the screen (but Im not really picky in that regard)
Ok.

Wow... You have it already?! nice! I am kinda envy you here
what about sharing some testing pictures or snapshots with us?
It would be appreciated if you do it, thank you very much!
Quote from: olsson_olle on 09-January-15, 06:00:53
Hi,
New to forum, first post.
Got the GS30 with the gaming dock today (released early in Sweden for some reason, dont know why).
Anyway I was planning to make a full review but now I'm contemplating sending it back instead and dont want to unpack more than necessary.
The reason I want to resend is that the idle fan is annoyingly high. With the computer just sitting beside me doing nothing the fan keep going on and off. The first level is OK but it often reaches second level which is really annoying and every once in a while it goes to 3rd gear and scares the cat... The CPU temp reached 75C at IDLE, that is just not good enough.
The fan-speed is not adjustable in bios or with any included software. I think it could work if the fan was constantly running at a really low speed but as it is set up now it's really disturbing.
I bought the GS30 because I saw it as the best of two worlds. A really powerful ultrabook for work and then a really nice gaming rig for home. I dont want to have a separate comp at home for gaming and I want a portable, silent and fast computer for work.
I will decide in the weekend weither to resend, if anyone has any tips on what can be done about the fan that would be really awsome. (or if MSI has planned to update BIOS or sumthin).
If I do end up keeping the rig I'll unpack and make a review.
Some quick impressions of the laptop itself:
* really nice keyboard
* nice build quality overall IMO
* diodes on the front looks nice but is nothing for the office, hoping that it is adjustable
* I like the screen (but Im not really picky in that regard)
Ok.

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