GPU improvement on ATI Radeon 2600 PRO versus Win7

I installed Windows 7 with Radeon ATI drivers in Boot Camp and boy does Windows fly and speeds are up I don't know how much. Folding at Home runs at flying speeds. Windows 7 loads applications instantly.
Will iMac 24 with Radeon 2600 PRO be supported VERY soon on Mac OS X 10.6.1 ?
I might return to Windows (7) after I tried having an OS running using the GPU. Great.

What are the chances Apple would be kind enough to still swap my card for a new unaffected one?
I'm in the same boat. :\ Mine just died too, would I need to take my tower to an Apple Store? Or how would I go about asking Apple to replace my graphics card?
Also, if I were to put in a different graphics card (say the ATI Radeon HD 5770), how difficult is it to replace? Would my Mac Pro (Early 2008) be able to handle it? I have 2x2.8GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon (8-core) processor, the ATI Radeon HD 5770 says it requires Mac Pro (Mid 2010) with PCI Express 2.0 slot and OS X 10.6.4, whereas I'm still on just 10.5 Leopard and have an Early 2008 model...
On another thread, here, The Hatter, said something about baking the card in the oven? Would that work if Apple won't replace it for free?
I have never opened up my tower before (I don't know how!) and I have been wanting to upgrade my RAM as well. I have 4x1GB cards and I wanted to move up to like 8 or 16GB. I was thinking about buying RAM from NewEgg or Amazon, whichever is cheaper, any suggestions?
Thank you for any help and sorry about hijacking the thread! >~< Should I make my own thread or continue in this one? I'm sorry, I just don't want to cause any problems...I will make a new one if need be.

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Ati radeon 2600 pro

Hi,
After installing Lion, the UI was fluid ... but after a while (playing with full screen or hibernation) the grahics just lag and it's not fluid at all ... it is a graphic card problem? Does someone have the same problem ?
My iMac 24" is a 2008 model (Core2Duo 2,8Ghz) and it's unusuable with Lion because of slow UI

What are the chances Apple would be kind enough to still swap my card for a new unaffected one?
I'm in the same boat. :\ Mine just died too, would I need to take my tower to an Apple Store? Or how would I go about asking Apple to replace my graphics card?
Also, if I were to put in a different graphics card (say the ATI Radeon HD 5770), how difficult is it to replace? Would my Mac Pro (Early 2008) be able to handle it? I have 2x2.8GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon (8-core) processor, the ATI Radeon HD 5770 says it requires Mac Pro (Mid 2010) with PCI Express 2.0 slot and OS X 10.6.4, whereas I'm still on just 10.5 Leopard and have an Early 2008 model...
On another thread, here, The Hatter, said something about baking the card in the oven? Would that work if Apple won't replace it for free?
I have never opened up my tower before (I don't know how!) and I have been wanting to upgrade my RAM as well. I have 4x1GB cards and I wanted to move up to like 8 or 16GB. I was thinking about buying RAM from NewEgg or Amazon, whichever is cheaper, any suggestions?
Thank you for any help and sorry about hijacking the thread! >~< Should I make my own thread or continue in this one? I'm sorry, I just don't want to cause any problems...I will make a new one if need be.

ATI Radeon 2600 XT on Mac Pro 2008 has died

Hi All,
I have recently been having issues with one of my ATI Radeon 2600 XT Graphics cards - choppy graphics, artefacts appearing on the display and endless crashes of the OS.
I have read online about a recall program Apple did run which recalled these exact graphics cards, and after checking the serial number of the card in question, it does indeed match one of the 'bad' batch.
The only problem is - the program ended in July 2011
What are the chances Apple would be kind enough to still swap my card for a new unaffected one?
Thanks
Mac Pro (early 2008)
6GB Memory
2 x ATI Radeon 2600XT
2 x 23" Cinema HD Monitors

What are the chances Apple would be kind enough to still swap my card for a new unaffected one?
I'm in the same boat. :\ Mine just died too, would I need to take my tower to an Apple Store? Or how would I go about asking Apple to replace my graphics card?
Also, if I were to put in a different graphics card (say the ATI Radeon HD 5770), how difficult is it to replace? Would my Mac Pro (Early 2008) be able to handle it? I have 2x2.8GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon (8-core) processor, the ATI Radeon HD 5770 says it requires Mac Pro (Mid 2010) with PCI Express 2.0 slot and OS X 10.6.4, whereas I'm still on just 10.5 Leopard and have an Early 2008 model...
On another thread, here, The Hatter, said something about baking the card in the oven? Would that work if Apple won't replace it for free?
I have never opened up my tower before (I don't know how!) and I have been wanting to upgrade my RAM as well. I have 4x1GB cards and I wanted to move up to like 8 or 16GB. I was thinking about buying RAM from NewEgg or Amazon, whichever is cheaper, any suggestions?
Thank you for any help and sorry about hijacking the thread! >~< Should I make my own thread or continue in this one? I'm sorry, I just don't want to cause any problems...I will make a new one if need be.

I have an early 2008 Mac Pro, 8 gb ram with a Dell 27" display and a 42" LG TV. I am thinking about upgrading the stock ATI Radeon 2600 graphics card for better resolution, preferring 2 dvi outputs. Does anyone have any suggestions on the best card?

I have an early 2008 Mac Pro, 8 gb ram with a Dell 27” display and a 42” LG TV. I am thinking about upgrading the stock ATI Radeon 2600 graphics card for better resolution, preferring 2 dvi outputs or 1 dvi and 1 vga vs 1 dvi and a mini. I don't do a lot of Final Cut Pro, gaming, etc. I am interested in best value for the graphics card.
Does anyone have any suggestions on the best graphics card for these larger displays for the best value?
Thanks,
Kevin

I recommend you install nothing older than the Apple-firware 5770, about US$250.
RE: Mac Pro Replacement Graphics cards
1) Apple brand cards,
2) "sold in the Apple store" cards, and
3) "Mac Edition" cards ...
... show all the screens, including Boot up screens, Safe Mode, Installer, Recovery, debug screens, and Alt/Option boot screens. At this writing, these choices include:
1) Apple brand cards:
• Apple-firmware 5770, about US$250** works near full speed in every model Mac Pro, Drivers in 10.6.5
• Apple-firmware 5870, about US$450
2) "sold in the Apple store" cards
• NVIDIA Quadro 4000, about US$1200
• NVIDIA Quadro 5000, about US$2500
3) "Mac Edition" cards -- REQUIRE 10.8.3 or later:
• SAPPHIRE HD 7950 3GB GDDR5 MAC Edition, about US$480** Vendor recommends Mac Pro 4,1
• EVGA GTX 680 Mac Edition, about US$600
The cards above require no more than the provided two 6-pin aux power connectors provided in the Mac Pro through 2012 model. Aux cables may not be provided for third-party cards, but are readily available.
If you are Meet ALL of these:
• running 10.8.3 or later AND
• don't care about "no boot screens" etc AND
• can re-wire or otherwise "work out" the power cabling, THEN:
You can use many more cards, even most "PC-only cards"

Re: ATI HD 2600 PRO WINDOWS 7 64 BIT BOOTCAMP DRIVER ERROR

Okay - I *think* I was able to get the modified INF to work properly now - it turns out there were many more instances where changes needed to be made that my original procedure did not address. The updated procedure is below with additional steps added.
Procedure to manually update iMac Radeon HD 2600 PRO video card under Windows 7 (64 bit).
Rationale:
> Boot Camp drivers incorrectly identify the video card my 24" iMac (Dual core; 2.8 GHz - graphics card is shown as a "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT") - this has been a long-standing problem when using my iMac under Boot Camp. There have been reports about how to update the drivers manually by obtaining them from ATI/AMD then installing them.
Background:
> When I was previously running Windows XP, I was able to perform the graphics driver update per the online instructions, without any problems.
> When I updated to Windows 7, 64-bit (because I was updated my Mac OS to 10.7 [Lion] and Windows XP was no longer supported in Boot Camp), I could no longer update the graphic card drivers to the Win7 64-bit version (it was giving an error that the driver was not supported).
> The solution I finally came upon was to modify the installer .INF file that comes with the drivers from AMD. I take no credit for this, except from the fact that I adapted a procedure I found for doing this for graphics cards in notebooks. The original place I found this is here <http://forum.notebookreview.com/gaming-software-graphics-cards/370695-guide-upda ting-your-ati-drivers-manually.html>.
NOTE & DISCLAIMER: I don't claim to fully understand every step that is going on here, nor if every step is needed. I based this on the procedure referenced in link immediately above and it seems to be working for me (that is, my graphics card driver was updated for Win7, 64-bit just like had been previously under WinXP) - YMMV.
>> This procedure was done with the AMD Radeon™ Desktop Video Card Drivers for "64 bit Windows Vista/Windows 7 "; Version 11.7, posted 2011-07-27 (main page: http://support.amd.com/US/Pages/AMDSupportHub.aspx)
1. Driver only was downloaded from AMD.
2. Downloaded file was installed to default location: C:\ATI
3. Gather info about the graphics card:
a. Open the Device Manager (Start>Computer [right-click]>Properties)
b. Expand the "Display Adapters" item to reveal the GPU (mine was listed as "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT")
c. Right-click on the GPU and select "Properties"
d. Click the "Details" tab in the Properties window.
e. Click the drop-down under "Property" (top item should say "Device description) - find the item in the list that says "Hardware Ids"
>> There were four values for my card, shown below:
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9583&SUBSYS_0083106B&REV_00
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9583&SUBSYS_0083106B
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9583&CC_030000
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9583&CC_0300
f. Right click on the first value and select "Copy" - paste it into a separate document.
g. Go back and click the drop-down under "Property" - find the item in the list that says "Inf section" (it was far down the list).
h. Copy the value shown there and paste into a separate document; my value read: ati2mtag_M76
4. Modify the INF file from AMD:
a. First thing I did was make a copy of the directory containing the files that were installed in step 2 (located at C:\ATI) - my directory was called "11-7_vista64_win7_64_dd".
b. Go into this path: C:\ATI\Support\11-7_vista64_win7_64_dd\Packages\Drivers\Display\W76A_INF
c. Find the INF files (icon is a document with a gear on it), that start with "C7..." and "CH..." (mine were called "C7122569" & "CH122569").
d. Open the "C7..." file (it opens in Notepad).
e. The first thing I did was find and replace all existing instances of "M76" in the INF (I arbitrarily replaced it with the following value "M7a6"). There are a number of existing references to this property type in the original INF.
> I do not know if this is absolutely necessary but I found that it helped me to distinguish what was originally there with what I was modifying.
f. Do a "Find" command for "ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO" (if you search for a shorter phrase, be aware there are other "2600 PRO" cards in the list).
> The exact line I found was <"ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO" = ati2mtag_RV630, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9589>
g. Replace that line with the Inf section value and the first Hardware ID value, using the same format as the original line. The new entry I made read (notice that each successive entry has an addition <space> between the end of 'PRO' and the ending double quote):
"ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO" = ati2mtag_M76, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9583&SUBSYS_0083106B&REV_00
"ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO " = ati2mtag_M76, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9583&SUBSYS_0083106B
"ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO " = ati2mtag_M76, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9583&CC_030000
"ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO " = ati2mtag_M76, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9583&CC_0300
h. Next do a find for all instances of "ati2mtag_RV630"; for every instance you will need to replace that value with " ati2mtag_M76".
i. Next do another find for "RV630" and make sure to replace all instances with "M76" (this is to catch the couple of places where it doesn't have the "ati2mtag" prefix)
j. Close the file, saving your changes.
k. Repeat steps 4d - 4i, using the "CH..." file.
> I personally do not think this is needed since I believe the "C7…" INF is for Windows 7 and "CH…" is for Vista, but I modified both anyway.
5. Update the graphics driver using the modified INF files:
a. Go back to the Device Manager and expand the "Display Adapters" item again to show the "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT" GPU
b. Right-click on the GPU and select "Update Driver Software..."
c. In the resulting window, choose "Browse my computer for driver software".
d. I navigated to the "C7..." file along the following path: <C:\ATI\Support\11-7_vista64_win7_64_dd\Packages\Drivers\Display\W76A_INF>
e. At this point, I was shown a window that showed "ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO" twice (that's all that was in the list). I selected the first instance and it moved on.
f. I got a warning that the driver was unsigned, obviously I allowed it to move forward with the installation.
g. The updating proceeded and the screen momentarily went black, twice. After the second time the description in the Device Manager changed to reflect that the GPU was now "ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO".
FINAL NOTE: as of right now everything seems to be running properly and I have experienced no problems or graphical glitches. If anyone reading this sees an obvious problem with what I've done, please let me know. I have run benchmarks between this and the standard installed mobility driver and I get about a 10% increase in overall FPS (using the free "NovaBench" app by NovaWave).
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look what this guy said:
Hi Guys,
I've spent a few hours over the last week trying to find something that works to update the driver. Using the Mobility Modder from Driverheaven I managed to install the Catalyst 7.8 but not the actual driver - you need to modify the INF for this. The only problem is that I can't be sure what the differences are between the mobility 2600 and the standard-computer 2600. I would like to assume it's just a few settings such as power saving and interal/ external displays.
I tried to modify the INF and used the settings for the standard graphics card. It worked fine, but I put the original Apple driver back on because I didn't want to find out I was overclocking the Graphics CPU accidentally.
After using mobility modder I added this line just after the mobility 2300 graphics card entry:
"ATI MOBILITY RADEON X2600 XT " = ati2mtag_RV630, PCI\VEN1002&DEV9583
If you notice and compare the mobility and standard entries, the mobilities have the same ati2mtag but followed by M-something rather than RV-something.
This appears to direct the INF to the correct setup of the Catalyst software for that card - as I say, I used the settings for the standard 2600 card and it installed ok. I didn't try any games though.
On another note, I'm resisting doing anything further or testing any games until I have the screen issue resolved - after exchanging the naff 20" screen with it's horizontal shading (a dark shade at the top to a light shade at the bottom - very noticeable with darkish solid colours!) I've found my new (more costly!) 24" is having some problems with picture breakup, though so far only in Vista which I installed via Bootcamp.
I wish Apple would get there act together. It's my first Apple and I was expecting great things! So far, I would have had less hassle if I had built my own computer with Vista on and thats saying something!!
Matt
he added the RV630 string. but i tried that with my exact windows xp driver device ids and yes it still completed the installation successfully,but the fps sill stayed the same

ATI HD 2600 PRO WINDOWS 7 64 BIT BOOTCAMP DRIVER ERROR

as with the windows xp bootcamp insatllation my grahics card the ATI RADEON PRO HD 2600 shows up under device manager as the Ati MOBILITY 2600 XT, this is NOT correct and wasnt correct when i had windows xp installed via bootcamp but the online trick/fix worked by installing the newer updated drivers for the ATI RADEON HD 2600 PRO by manually pointing the installer to the newly download drivers for xp and once that was done my card read correctly under the device manegr in xp and my performance was quadrupled !!!! however since i have now installed Windows 7 64 bit,the same problem appears agin but when i download the correct 64 bit windows 7 drivers form the ati site and even the dedicated bootcamp windows 7 64 bit drivers nad attempt to point the installer to them the error appears "This driver does not appear to work with this version of windows" so basically the old xp bootcamp fix doesnt work with windows 7 64 bit with bootcamp running. There has got to be an easy workaround or fix for this! Tons of windows 7 64 bit bootcamp users are experienceing this install error and without the driver being installed and updating the card to what it truly is and NOT THE MOBILITY VERSION THAT IS BEING DETECTED, we can all run games like before in xp with way better performace. until then we are all screwed and are forced to run the updated drivers for the mobility XT card. PLEASE PLEASE HELP US IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM SAYING. look around on the apple bootcamp forums and you will see a bunch of people complaining about the same thing with no solution for over 2 years. i have sent an email to AMD formerly ATI requesting assistance but i am sur ethey will just blow me off. this is a very easy problem that could be fixed by a tech savy person. WHoever can fix this problem at least for me personally,i will gladly sned you at least $100 via paypal for your hard work and time. without this being fixed i have no choice but to buy anothermac with a better graphics card since the imac i have is not upgradeable beyond RAM. Like i said this was the same problem with windows xp in bootcamp before i installed lion. the fix worked. i dont want to hear that the card is NOT a true hd 2600 PRO whn i know it is and have succesfully used the driver hack before with awesome results. it is NOT a mobility card whatsoever. it is an ATI RADEON 2600 HD with 256 megs of VRAM,not the best but still ok to run even the latest pc games with bootcamp. Please please help me! Thank you very much in adfvance for reading this!

Below is what I had to do to work around this issue - I've been running with the modified graphics drivers for over a week now, including running some games under Windows 7. Apologies if this is too basic, but I figured I would write it out step-by-step for anyone who needed the background, rationale, plus instructions:
Procedure to manually update iMac Radeon HD 2600 PRO video card under Windows 7 (64 bit).
Rationale:
> Boot Camp drivers incorrectly identify the video card my 24" iMac (24-inch Mid 2007 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo - the graphics card is shown as a "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT") - this has been a long-standing problem when using my iMac under Boot Camp. You can find procedures online about how to update the drivers manually by obtaining them from AMD then installing them.
Background:
> When I was previously running Windows XP, I was able to perform the graphics driver update per the online instructions, without any problems.
> When I updated to Windows 7, 64-bit (because I updated my Mac OS to 10.7 [Lion] and Windows XP was no longer supported in Boot Camp), I could no longer update the graphic card drivers to the Win7 64-bit version (it was giving an error that the driver was not supported) using the same procedure.
> The solution I finally came upon was to modify the INF file that comes with the drivers from AMD. I take no credit for this, except for the fact that I adapted a procedure I found for doing this for graphics cards in notebooks. The original place I found this is here <http://forum.notebookreview.com/gaming-software-graphics-cards/370695-guide-upda ting-your-ati-drivers-manually.html>.
NOTE & DISCLAIMER: This is the first time I have done something like this, so I don't claim to fully understand every step that is going on here, nor if every step is needed. I based this on the procedure referenced in link immediately above and it seems to be working for me (that is, my graphics card driver was ultimately updated for Win7, 64-bit just like had been previously under WinXP) - YMMV.
>> This procedure was done with the AMD Radeon™ Desktop Video Card Drivers for "64 bit Windows Vista/Windows 7 "; Version 11.7, posted 2011-07-27 (main page: http://support.amd.com/US/Pages/AMDSupportHub.aspx)
1. Driver only was downloaded from AMD.
2. Downloaded file was installed to default location: C:\ATI
3. Gather info about the graphics card:
3a. Open the Device Manager (Start>Computer [right-click]>Properties)
3b. Expand the "Display Adapters" item to reveal the GPU (mine was listed as "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT", same as it was under XP)
3c. Right-click on the GPU and select "Properties"
3d. Click the "Details" tab in the Properties window.
3e. Click the drop-down under "Property" (top item should say "Device description) - find the item in the list that says "Hardware Ids"
>> There were four values for my card, shown below:
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9583&SUBSYS_0083106B&REV_00
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9583&SUBSYS_0083106B
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9583&CC_030000
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9583&CC_0300
3f. Right click on the first value and select "Copy" - paste it into a separate document. I actually copied all these items and pasted them into a separate text document, but only ended up using the first one.
3g. Go back and click the drop-down under "Property" - find the item in the list that says "Inf section" (it was far down the list).
3h. Copy the value shown there and paste into a separate document; my value read: ati2mtag_M76
4. Modify the INF file from AMD:
4a. First thing I did was make a backup copy of the directory containing the files that were installed in step 2 (located at C:\ATI) - my directory was called "11-7_vista64_win7_64_dd".
4b. Go into this path: C:\ATI\Support\11-7_vista64_win7_64_dd\Packages\Drivers\Display\W76A_INF
4c. Find the INF files (icon is a document with a gear on it), that start with "C7..." and "CH..." (mine were called "C7122569" & "CH122569").
4d. Open the "C7..." file (it opens in Notepad). Go down to the section called "[ATI.Mfg.NTamd64.6.1]".
4e. Do a "Find" command for "ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO" (if you search for a shorter phrase, be aware there are other "2600 PRO" cards in the list).
>> The exact line I found was <"ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO" = ati2mtag_RV630, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9589>
4f. Replace that line with the Inf section value and the first Hardware ID value, using the same format as the orginal line.
>> The new entry I made read:
"ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO" = ati2mtag_M76, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9583&SUBSYS_0083106B&REV_00
4g. Close the file, saving your changes.
4h. Repeat steps 4d - 4g, using the "CH..." file.
5. Updating the graphics driver using the modified INF files:
5a. Go back to the Device Manager and expand the "Display Adapters" item again to show the "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT" GPU
5b. Right-click on the GPU and select "Update Driver Software..."
5c. In the resulting window, choose "Browse my computer for driver software".
5d. I navigated to the "C7..." file along the following path: <C:\ATI\Support\11-7_vista64_win7_64_dd\Packages\Drivers\Display\W76A_INF>
5e. At this point, I was shown a window that showed "ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO" twice (that's all that was in the list). I selected the first instance and it moved on.
5f. I got a warning that the driver was unsigned, obviously I allowed it to move forward with the installation.
5g. The updating proceeded and the screen momentarily went black, twice. After the second time the description in the Device Manager changed to reflect that the GPU was now "ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO".
FINAL NOTE: as of right now everything seems to be running properly and I have experienced no problems or graphical glitches. If anyone reading this sees an obvious problem with what I've done, please let me know.

Total lockup KM4M-L w/ ATI Radeon 9600 Pro

OK, its been a while since ive had any problems at all but unfortunately I am getting problems with my KM4M-L based PC completely locking up.
I am pretty sure that this is a graphics related issue since it started when I installed an ATI Radeon 9600 Pro 128MB.
I tried removing old nVidia drivers completely, have jusy formatted and re-installed Windows XP Pro with SP2, but the problem is still there. I have tried the card on AGP 2x and 4x, with fastwrite enabled and disabled, and different memory allocations of 64MB and 128MB, but still no joy.
I have also tried the latest two sets of drivers from ATI with no joy, and the latest chipset drivers & BIOS revisions from MSi.
Does anyone know of any compatibility issues between my hardware or something I may have missed in my frustration? Thanks, Huw
Mercury 400W PSU Specs: 3.3V 28A 5V 40A 12V 17A
MSI KM4M-L
AMD Athlon XP 2600+
Crucial 1x512MB PC2700 RAM
ATI Radeon 9600 Pro 128MB
M-Audio Audiophile 24/96
Excelstor 80GB 7200RPM HDD
Maxtor 20GB 5600RPM HDD
LG 52x32x52 CDRW
Unbranded 32x CDROM
S-Talent 128MB Flash Drive
Netgear WG111 USB 802.11g Network Adapter
Thermaltake Xaser Desktop

OK, I have tried a number of things since posting last.
I have been running the PC without the video card, just using the onboard graphics, which didnt seem to help.
I have air dusted, and replaced the GPU heatsink and fan for a large machined one with a more appropriate size of fan but im still getting some problems:
The first is the complete lock-up, which still occurs at seemingly random intervals with no pattern at all.
The second problem is quite frequently on botting the computer, when windows has loaded, the screen display seems to breakdown into random pixels as soon as I start using anything, the effect is hard to describe but its almost as if the screen is being airbrushed, very odd
I should add that I have also removed the Maxtor HDD, since last posting, and also run a series of MemCheckx86 tests which seem to indicate that the RAM is fine.
Any ideas anyone? I am starting to suspect that there may be multiple problems contributing to this annoyance

ATI Radeon 2600 XT Fan Noise

I just received my new Mac Pro on Friday - it shipped with 10.5.4 installed. After looking at some of the new features of Leopard (had only used Tiger previously), I installed all the available updates -- these were:
Mac OS X Update 10.5.5
Aluminum Keyboard Firmware Update 1.0
Java For Mac OS X 10.5 Update 2
iTunes 8.0
Digital Camera Raw Compatibility Update 2.2
QuickTime 7.5.5
Remote Desktop Client Update 3.2.2
Front Row Update
All the updates were successful and no issues were apparent until this morning. The fan on the graphics card (ATI Radeon 2600 XT) now seems to be running at full speed, regardless of what is running. Just idling at the Desktop the fan still runs at full speed. A soft reset of the SMC has also been done - no change. Is this a known issue? Is anybody else experiencing this? I've also posted my temps below:
Ambient Air 24.0C
CPU A Temperature Diode 34.0C
CPU B Temperature Diode 35.0C
CPU C Temperature Diode 35.0C
CPU D Temperature Diode 35.0C
CPU A Heatsink 32.0C
CPU B Heatsink 32.0C
Hard Drive Bay 1 28.0C
Hard Drive Bay 2 26.0C
Hard Drive Bay 3 27.0C
Hard Drive Bay 4 27.0C
Memory Bank A Point 1 35.0C
Memory Bank A Point 2 33.0C
Memory Bank A Point 3 34.0C
Memory Bank B Point 1 35.0C
Memory Bank B Point 2 37.0C
Memory Bank B Point 3 35.0C
Memory Module A1 48.0C
Memory Module B1 48.0C
Northbridge Heat Sink 38.0C
Expansion Slots 35.0C
Power Supply Location 1 46.0C
Power Supply Location 2 40.0C

I don't know what is happening with ATI, at first I thought it was the consolidation and merger that affects products and Q&A, but the X1900, then the 2600XT, and even the 3870's fans and noise (which after 3 months seems to be better now on the 3870 with the latest models rolling out).
Normally I would expect a new or even ref'd unit would have the latest fixes and if there still are problems... then there aren't any solutions? One person dropped into Vista and reduced fans to 20% setting and it works even under heavy loads w/o getting above 80C.
Seems like the Nvidia 8800GT costs more, doesn't have the drivers optimized for OpenGL just yet, but runs quieter.
One person complained theirs would making an annoying "up-down-up" fan revving constantly.
A copper cooling kit isn't a option user should have to invest in. Not sure it works with 2600 -
"The Accelero S1 Rev. 2 dramatically extends the compatibility to many of the latest graphic cards. It supports high-end to main stream graphic cards including the latest hot selling Radeon HD 3870, 3850 , GeForce 8800GTS (G92) and 8800GT. http://www.arctic-cooling.com/vga2.php?idx=147
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ATI Radeon 9800 pro+ KT4AV-L

Yo i purcased a ATI 9800 pro today and i had problems with 8x agp so i put it on 4x then i played counterstrike. So i saw some strange problems the game runs on 80 fps okay thats good. But the game stil lags not lag because of the fps but just a strange lag. so i tried a higher Hz but it on 70 Hz but stil the same problem. what could it be help me.
Mobo: MSI KT4AV-L
RAM: Corsair 2x 256 ddr pc 2700
GPU: Sappire ati radeon 9800 pro
HD: maxtor 120 gb 8 mb cache
CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2800+
PS: unnamed 300 W

PROBLEM SOLVED i just had to turn on vsync from the control panel lol

ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 mb on Dual 867?

I have been reading up on doing an upgrade to my system. I was looking at a Mac version of the ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 mb video card for it.
For this particular machine if I find a Mac version of the ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, it will fit into the board won't it?
Also, I currently have the 64 mb ATI Radeon 9000 Pro. I should see a definite performance boost shouldn't I?
I am not a power user, and have 1 gig of memory on here, but since installing Ilife '08, it seems slower than it used to. I would like to move up to 10.5 and want to do what I can to make it run decently.

I'm using this card in my MDD Dual 867. First installed it with Panther and saw an improvement in some things. Nothing stellar for day to day work but it was noticeable. I then downloaded some game demos I was not able to play before (frame rates and all) and suddenly I could play them. It's worth it, especially when moving up to Tiger or Leopard with all that Core technology.

Cant use ati radeon 2600

I have a first edition mac pro, I was told that the ati radeon 2600 would work in it but I can't get it to work. The screen is fuzzy and none of my games will detect it. Do I need to upgrade to leopard to use it.

If you can find someone with Leopard and copy the Radeon 2xxx drivers from the Extensions folder, it might work okay under Tiger. But the card (and drivers) was designed to work under Leopard.

ATI Radeon 2600 graphics artifacts

I have a new MacPro with the ATI Radeon 2600 in it. Occasionally, (perhaps 3 times in 5 months)the screen will go completely wacky, with the whole screen turning like a tie die, except not as cool. A restart seems to fix the problem. Right now I am running EFI firmware version 01.00.236. There is an update (to .252) that I have been avoiding because of the increased fan noise and other complaints I have read about, I was hoping for a newer firmware to be released.
Are there MacPro users who have had the card issue, and had it fixed by the new firmware, and is there issues with the .252 firmware that make it worth avoiding?

I'm experiencing issues with my new Mac Pro as well, bought it this month. It has the default everything except I've added 8GB OWC ram. Everything passes apple hardware test, multiple times, but a few times now my open windows (all applications) have become "messed up". For example, this is Safari:
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Is this similar to what everyone is seeing?

ATI Radeon 9000 PRO Mac Edition supported under Tiger ?

Hi all,
we are still using OS X 10.3.x for our venerable G4 AGP mac. Back in 2005 when Tiger was the new OS, we were told that our ATI Radeon™ 9000 PRO Mac Edition graphics would not be supported under 10.4.x. Has this changed? I don't want to upgrade to Leopard yet, but would like to use some Tiger features as Mail 2.0 or improved iSync.
Thanks for any input ...
Asbjoern

So is this why all my fonts are screwed on my G4 MDD dual 1.25 using a ATI 9000 Pro?
Seems as tho it works perfectly fine when i had 10.4.10 but when 10.4.11 was released all my fonts are screwed. Even when booting from a OSX CD. I installed 10.5 and still doesnt work.
looks like i need a 9600.

S-Video not working on ATI Radeon 9800 Pro????

I've had this ATI Radeon 9800 Pro in my MDD dual 1.25 G4 for a little while with two VGA monitors. I recently got rid of the secondary monitor and moved a 27" flat screen tube TV next to the computer. As I always do, I've got to start tinkering. I remembered that my Radeon has both VGA, DVI, and an S-Video outputs. I simply ran an S-Video from the card to the TV. I can't seem to get it to work. I had never used the ATI control panels so I went ahead and downloaded and installed it. It won't "detect" the TV in the Mac2TV control. What the heck am I doing wrong???? I emailed ATI and they just sent me a form reply to a dead link saying that my system is unstable. UGH!
Any tips would be great.
Thanks much,
Robert

Well, I figured out that if I reboot and only have the s-video attached and no monitors to the VGA or DVI it will work. It dedicates the TV as the primary screen. However, not the best picture. I can't find any information if both the s-video and VGA or DVI can operate at the same time. I'm also doing a little more research with ATI to see if they actually have a true component output from either the VGA or DVI. I had bought a DVI to what I thought was supposed to be component but it was actually RGB component and just gave a distorted image. If I can get that to work, I think it would be a better image along with being able to run both the monitor and the TV as the secondary.
Robert

ATI/Radeon 9800 Pro 128 AGP 4x/2x in Gigabit Ethernet dual 450 PMac G4

Hi,
This is my first time posting to these discussion group... I've been going through related threads and have not found an answer to my problem...
I have a Gigabit Ethernet dual 450 G4. Awhile ago I upgraded the processor to a Sonnet 1.8ghz so I could run Leopard.
I just bough the ATI/Radeon 9800 Pro 128 AGP 4x/2x video card. I researched around and that seemed to be a card that would work in my machine. I even read a review on Amazon where someone had also upgraded to the 1.8 processor used this card with no issues.
I do have an older monitor - Apple Studio Display CRT with the ADC connector. So I also bought the Apple DVI to ADC adapter kit.
I installed the card and do not get any picture at all - I believe I have installed everything correctly. I'm pretty sure I can hear the fan on the video card in the machine. The monitor is getting power from the adapter since the button lights up when I press it - but it does not stay lit -- the monitor never turns on. Using my old graphics card the monitor makes a little "beep" when it turns on.
In reading the other topics I am wondering if it might be a power issue? According to Other World Computing's profile my machine has a max of 220 watts. Although they suggest this video card as one the will work in my machine.
I have disabled the hard drive that came with the machine (too small) and am using two Maxtor hard drives that I added - one ATA (120gb) and one SATA (500gb) that is connected to an SATA pci card. I also have two additional pci cards with usb 2.0/firewire ports.
In looking at the topics here I came across the link about taping the 3 and 11 pins on the video card. Even though the card I have is 4x/2x not 8x I thought I'd give it a shot. That did not work either.
Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated.

I don't wish to sound redundant here, but I've been reviewing the vendor's page:
It's OK- I don't mind beating this dead horse....
The maker says such to protect themselves from possible claims that may arise due to over loaded systems and power problems when their card is installed in said system.
Of course, 300w would be nice, but they didn't even specify the PSU rating a couple years ago. The Sawtooth, with it's 237w PSU, used to be listed as a compatible machine for the 9800...... They just didn't consider how far a Sawtooth might be modded.
Within reason, the early G4's (Sawtooths) are capable of using the Radeon 9800 Pro. The GE has the same 338w PSU as the DA (they are interchangeable), so there is plenty of power for the 9800.
One thing to remember, the requirements of the ADC port of the AGP slot are removed by using a non ADC card. This really changes the calculations of the power available.
It's kinda' a long post, but, if you care to get ALL the details, check the following:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=7065653&#7065653
I think you'll be satisfied with the explanation.......
Which leaves your second, and very appropriate, point.
The main enemy of all, though, isn't power. Heat is the biggest concern.
Reducing heat/increasing cooling by using a third party fan on the 9800 is highly recommended. The 9800 is a hot card, and the stock fan is prone to early failure.
Adding additional cooling to remove the extra heat produced by the 9800, by using an exausting PCI fan, will also help the PSU provide adequate voltage to the system, by reducing the amount of hot air moving out of the PSU.
Super heated air moving through the PSU reduces the cooling ability of the PSU. A hot PSU doesn't produce reliable power.
So, add the 9800, add some cooling, and enjoy!

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