GPU Performance with Illustrator - New Notebook Specs

I'm looking at purchasing a new notebook for Illustrator use. The system requirements for Illustrator list only certain models of NVIDIA video adapters. The notebooks I'm looking at have the NVidia Optimus K1100M 2GB video adapter. I would like confirmation that the Optimus series of adapters will not provide Windows GPU performance and that I should be looking at only the adapters listed within this link:
System requirements | Illustrator
Thanks!
Brent

Thanks for writing. Please don't mind if I pick apart your statements.
"For an extra $200 the 5870 is a no brainer." I agree on a pure cost basis that it's not a hard decision. But I have a very quiet environment, and I understand this card can make a lot of noise. To pay money, end up with a louder machine, and on top of that realize no significant benefit would be a minor disaster.
So, the more interesting question is: has anyone actually used the 5870 and can compare it to previous cards? A 16-bit 60 megapixel image won't require even .5GB of VRAM if fully tiled into it, for example, so I have no ability, a priori, to prove to myself that it will matter. I guess I'm really hoping for real-world data. Perhaps you speak from this experience, Matthew? (I can't tell.)
Background work and exporting are helpful, but not as critical for my primary daily use. I know the CPU is also used for demosaicing or at least some subset of the render pipeline, because I have two computers that demonstrate vastly different render-from-raw response times with the same graphics card. Indeed, it is this lag that would be the most valuable of all for me to reduce. I want to be able to flip through a large shoot and see each image at 100% as instantaneously as possible. On my 2.8 i7 that process takes about 1 second on average (when Aperture doesn't get confused and mysteriously stop rendering 100% images).
Ben

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I am not sure where I went wrong here, but something is just not making sense. I've read posts where folks are getting scores in the 10's and 11's with lesser processor and GPU gear. Any directions here would be greatly appreciated. Hopefully i've posted enough information. Thanks for your help!
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Award BIOS, v1.8
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I did read a few threads where folks were boasting numbers in the 10's and 11's. From your notes, it appears that they were simply blowing smoke. I appreciate knowing that, although I dont understand the purpose of posting inaccurate information in these forums. These are (and will continue to be) and excellent resource unless they become clogged with garbage.
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This is OK
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Add this
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