GR with Production Orders without reference to material
Hi,
Would just like to ask if it is possible to perform Goods Receipt to a Production Order without material reference (that is, created via CO07)?
Whenever I create order via CO07, I cannot perform a 101 Goods Receipt.
It seems in the Production Order, in the Goods Receipt Tab, the Goods Receipt indicator defaults to not ticked and GR Non-valuated ticked; thus, Goods Receipt is not allowed.
Is there any setting responsible for this? or is this really how the system behaves?
Thanks.
Dear,
This is standard SAP procedure, do the confirmations for rework order & rework material will be issued from stock to order.
And GR will not be done for rework order. To get stock for reworked material do the GR for original/main order.
Please refer this thread also,
Rework Order GR Query
Hope clears to you.
Regards,
R.Brahmankar
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Production orders without a material
Hi Guys,
Can anybody explain the scenario where the concept of production orders without materials come into picture.
Thanks
ShaileshHi,
In addition to above answers pls find the procedure of creating Production order w/o Material :
1.Creating Production Orders Without a Material
Choose Logistics ® Production ® Shop Floor Control ® Order ® Create ® Without material.
You reach the initial screen Create production order.
2.Enter the following data:
the plant
the sales order (you can specify a sales order as a reference.)
the order type (it controls whether an internal or external number range is used.)
if you have selected an order type for which an external number assignment is required then you must also specify an order number in the field Order.
3.You must also specify the following data:
the responsible MRP controller
the responsible production scheduler
If you want to create the order with reference to an existing order then the order referenced must also be one without a material.
4.Choose Enter.
The General tab page appears.
5.Enter the following data:
a Short text for the order
Total quantity: Specify the quantity and the unit of measure.
Order start date or order finish date: Depending on the scheduling type you must specify the order start and/or the order finish date.
Production orders are generally scheduled backwards.
Scheduling type: Use a key to specify how the order is to be scheduled.
Scheduling margin key or float before production, float after production and release period:
The release period, the float before production and the float after production of the order are defined using the scheduling margin key.
If you specify a scheduling margin key the system fills these fields automatically.
If no scheduling margin key has been specified you can specify the float before production, the float after production and the release horizon by specifying the corresponding number of days.
6.You must also specify the following data:
Scrap portion: You can specify the scrap quantity that you expect for this order.
Priority: You can assign the order a priority. This field does not affect order processing.
Long text: To create a long text for the production order choose the Long text tab page.
7.Choose .
You reach a dialog box where you can specify whether you want to use a reference operation set. If you do not want to use a reference operation set then a standard sequence is automatically generated with an operation.
The system searches for a valid routing (see Routing Selection) and a valid bill of material (see Selecting Bills of Material).
If alternative sequences exist in the selected routing, they can only be copied to the production order if alternative sequences are permitted for the order type in Customizing for Shop Floor Control: Choose Master data ® Order ® Define Order Type-Dependent Parameters.
If you do not want to change the operations or add any components, you can now save the production order. Otherwise, change the data and then save the production order.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Tejas -
Production Order without Material Number and linked to a PM Order...
Hi All,
Is it possible to create a Production Order without Material Number (because it is a "just one time" production), and link it to a PM Order (enterred by a sister Plant) in order to finally report the cost to that PM Order?
And if YES, how to do it???
Explanation of the problem (business scenario):
We have 2 Plants. Let say Plant "A" and Plant "B".
Plant B is producing spare parts for Plant A.
There are usual spare parts, which have a Material Number.
But there are also spare parts which will be produced only once, and which don't have a Material Number. (= because it is a very punctual production).
Plant A needs a punctual spare part.
It creates a PM Order for Plant B.
Plant B needs to create a Production Order for that spare part (without Material Number).
Then, when confirmed and delivered, the cost of that production needs to be reported (assigned) to the PM Order.
Thanks in advance for your help on the subject.
Regards,
Rudy.Thank you for the information.
After some modifications on the Prod.Order Type and the creation of a Reference Operation Set, it seems to work.
Still have a cost problem, but on the way to be solved.
Thanks a lot,
Rudy. -
Production order without referance to sales order in configurable material
Dear all,
I am trying to create a production order for a configurable material. I dont have a sales order for that. And I can not even create a sales order for some reason.
While creating a production order the system asks for a account assignment (either a sales order or WBS).
The error which comes while creation is ,
Standard production only allowed with ref. to indivual customer stock
Message no. CO542
Diagnosis
Direct order creation for a material to be configured is only possible if it takes place in relation to sales order stock since a configurable material only allows production for sales order stock. A sales order or a WBS element can serve as sales order stock.
Procedure
You should enter a sales order or a WBS element for account assignment.
How to solve this.
Thanks in advanmce.
SumeetHi
1.Create a CIR with transaction with md61
2.You will get a reference number
3. with that reference number you will be able to create a Produ tion order.
check and let us know if you have any issues
reg
DsK -
Production order without material
I am using Production order without material and without sales order in CO07. I want to derive profit center for this production order. What is procedure to derive it?
Hi Mayuresh,
We can settle the order against cost objects, cost center, material, order item, order, sales document item, WBS element...
But Profit center is not a cost object so you can link the cost center in production order, Cost center can be linked with profit center so u can get the result in profit center also.
Regards,
S.Suresh. -
Production Orders without material - component reservations in APO
Hi All,
We are using transaction CO07 to create a production order without material. We have four materials in the BOM for this production order. One is an input product and three are output products. My intention is to have the components on this BOM show up in APO as reservations or something else that will be considered in our planning.
At this point I am not able to see anything in APO system (e.g order reservations) like I would with a regular production order with material. Does anyone have any experience with this functionality or know if it is supported by SAP?
Thank you,
PaulHi Paul,
It is an interesting case, a don't know if you have solved it. Anyway, here is my suggestion -
1) If you want to see a reservation in APO for a component, you need to make sure that the header product exists in APO as well, and the production order for this header has also been CIFed over to APO. This is the first check.
2) If the first check is OK, then you should check that all the 3 header products exist in APO (In your case, you have 3 three header products). And then, the production order appears for all the 3 products in product view.
With the above checks, I am certain, you should see the reservation for the component, else it is an ieal OSS candidate.
Thanks,
Prashant Ghule -
Production orders without header material transfer to APO
Hi,
for our process it's necessary to transfer dependent demands from rework production orders (without header material) to APO because the ATP check for the component take place in APO. In standard there is no way tor transfer such orders to APO. Only one possible solution is to add during order transfer a dummy material in order to trigger the transfer to APO. Is there anybody that have already used this???
Best regards
alexHi JJ,
1. Reference Operation Set - t-code CA11. In the initial screen, enter description, plant - xxxx, usage - 1 & status - 4, unit of measure - same as the material for which the routing is to be used (eg - EA or KG etc).
Click on operations tab, enter control key, work center, operation description.
2. Settlement - When you enter the basic details in co07 like description, basic qty, dates, the system will take you to the settlement screen where you need to enter the settlement receiver. Here you specity CTR for cost center or G/L for G/L account, you then have to specify the corresponding cost element number & also the % of settlement, which is normally 100%. You can also access this by clicking on header - settlement
Hope the above answers your query. If additional info is required, revert back.
If helpful award points
Regards,
Vivek -
What is the use of production order without material?
Hi gurus,
can anyone plz tell what is the use of production order without material?
n steps involve to perform this task?Dear amnpp,
It's widely used for capturing the rework activities(components and activity cost),both for final rework and inprocess rework
activities.
Check these links,
Rework order manually (not Trigger)
rework order
Rework Order Steps
Re: Coustomization order type for Rework
Regards
Mangalraj.S -
To close the unclosed production orders without imbalancing with invoice
Hi MRP Experts,
I want solution for following situation.
Mrp was not implemeted during software implementation.
Now we need to implement.
But since manual production entry was not done according to invoice there is no link between them.
At present i have unclosed production orders which was actually manually closed and at present if i try to close it it might show imbalance during the mrp implementation with respect to mismatch in date.
Please give me some suggestions to close the unclosed production orders without imbalancing
Thanks and regards,
TejaswiniHi,
Once the production order is active then only these orders will be considered for MRP.
So, you go with setting the System Status of the Orders with TECO.
Select your Orders and in the Transaction: COHV you can do the Mass processing for TECO.
TECO status will not look for production order settlement etc..
You enter the demand and execute MRP..
Planned orders will be genearted, convert them to Prod. Orders work on those orders..
But it is same as having prod. orders earlier to MRP or Creating fresh production orders..
System will calculate the Net requirements first in the MRP, so ther will not be inconsistencies..
Revert for further discussion..
Regards,
Siva -
GR for create the production order without material(co07)
Hi all,
I am creating the production order without material (T-Code :co07), After creating this order i want to get the Material from W/H and after dismantling how to do GR for this Prod.order, What is the Movement type to be used?Please advice meDear Kumar,
CO07 specially meant for Rework order (Production order
without material) or for dismantalling the Customer returns or
Inhouse rejected,for the components which re good to reuse
again,their quantity will be entered in -ve and so 531 movement
takes place.
On the other hand,if you want to use for rework purpose and
want to consume some components,using MB1A T code ,the
materials required are issued.
Already our Forum member(Krishnamohan) has given clearly in his first reply.
Regards
Mangalraj.S -
Production order link to raw Material
Hi
Experts
We have manual Production order system (NO MRP)
System works like this
Work order (Manually given to Production) Part name Material Qty and Dispatch date.
Finish Material A
This contains semi finish material X, Y, Z
X contains Raw material and Scrap Generated
Y contains X and Scrap
Z Contains Y and Scrap
Finish A Contains Z material
Then Production people create the sub semi finish Production order of X before he checks raw material from store and accordingly by calculating he create Production order of X then Production order of Y and Z and then Create Production Order Of Finish Material.
Our problem is that as we create manually Production order the material issued from store we are not able to link with the production order.
As this material is issued to this production order. How to map this?
The other issue is regarding consumables we also want to map this to Production order. Like Coolant used and inserts used on work center how to map?
Please guide me.
Thanks & Regards
PertHi,
If you are creating production orders with CO08 (With reference to sales order ) then RM tracking can easily be done.
Just need to give sales order number in COOIS report or in table AFPO it will give you all the production orders and RM can be traced till FG.
But if you have MTS then the calculation must be assumption basis .
If the same RM used in same SFG with different production orders then that might be impossible to trace without batch and sales order.
Now you want to trace tool then use PRT
You need to create material as PRT .
Assign that PRT in routing with Usage formula .
So PRT will be copied on production order with routing . When ever you will confirm the operation the usage value of PRT will be updated.
Regards,
Vishal -
Is there a situation where we create a production order without BOM/Rtg ?
What I see in the system, I was able to create a prod order without maintaining master data for PP ( expect material master)
Is there a situation/scenario where we create a production order without BOM, Rtg
Does the above situation applies to scenario like special procurement key ( 40- stock transfer from other plant )
Please clarifyPradeep,
Thank you for detailed answer
Round robin of discussions
When you covert a planned order to a prod order with reference to a material (CO40), it will ask for routing
if rtg is not maintained for the material, the system will automatically pick the default rtg from OPJG
When you create a prod order ( without ref to a material- C007), say suppose for unplanned rework we have
maintain the rtg and BOM manually to the prod order
Lastly, FOR SPk - 40 ( Stock Transport) for the issuing plant both BOM & Rtg needs to be maintained in the recieveing & issuing plant
Due points have been assigned -
Error while creating Production order without BOM
Hi Guys,
While creating production order without a BOM i am getting the following error in the error log.
Error: BOM for material xxxxxx does not contain any valid items
Message no. CO636
Kindly help.
Regards,
SidDear customer,
could you check in the master data screen of the order if one BOM has been selected?
please coudl you check your customizing the following transactions:
OPJM
OPJI
what do you have in 'BOM slection field' MRP4 view of the header material?
Please check if with this info you can find the missing data to explode the BOM
regards
Maria -
Re:No release of production order without standard cost estimate
Hello Experts
I do not want to release any production order without standard cost estimate
I have come acroos the same problem raised by some other users and can you please suggest how to achieve this?
Is there any way to achieve this without user exit?
Thanks and Regards
SubbuHello Subbu,
In this case, you need to put the status as "B4" Blocked in costing 1 view of material master, when you create the costing view and change it to "03" status when you released the cost estimate.
Please note that this field can be overwritten in MRP view also. Hence please get the good control of material master and good coordination with PP team to achive this.
Please let me know if you require any clarifications.
Thank you,
Regards,
Santosh
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Discontinuation functionality with production orders
Dear Guru's,
Can anyone please confirm: is the functionality for discontinuation of a material (including follow-up material) not available with production orders?
Example: in our system we have component A that is followed up by component B. This is set in material master - MRP 4.
We also have production orders for the upcoming 4 months in our system. If the stock of component A is depleted within these 4 months, we would expect to see requirements (orderreservations?) on component B, but this is not the case.
Thanks for any comments,
Rgds, AJHi
Discontinuation works for Production orders.Couple of Checks needed for both Follow up and Discontinued Materials to arrive to actual problem
1) Base unit of measure must be same
2) Should have same MRP type
3) Not defined as Co-Products
For detailed info pl refer the link
[Discontinuation|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/b1/c044d1439a11d189410000e829fbbd/content.htm]
Regards
Brahmaji
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