Gradients in Strokes?

Hey, good afternoon.. sorry for my english.. only talk fine
spanish.. ;-))
I have a question, that i need now for make a weg 2.0 logo.
Case studie 1:
- make a text
- apply traze filter (live photohop), color gradient.. But
the gradient only is black to white, how can i change this colors?
Case Study 2:
- make a rectangule, with a color gradient, ok no problem..
- but, i like with the stroke, 20 PX, but not with a simple
color, i need the border with a gradient... how¿?
please i have this question along time ago, but i cant find
the solution...
THX

quote:
Originally posted by:
miguelitus
Case studie 1:
- make a text
- apply traze filter (live photohop), color gradient.. But
the gradient only is black to white, how can i change this colors?
You can make color gradients for text in Fireworks:
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x123/pixlor/Fireworks/gradients.png
quote:
Case Study 2:
- make a rectangule, with a color gradient, ok no problem..
- but, i like with the stroke, 20 PX, but not with a simple
color, i need the border with a gradient... how¿?
Another way:
Make two rectangles, one the size of the inside and one that
is 40 px bigger - for example, 250x100 and 290x140.
Align the centers of the rectangles with the smaller one on
top.
Select both, then combine the paths and punch (my menu is
Modify> Combine Paths > Punch, it is next to Union and
Intersect)
You can apply a gradient to this object.

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PS impovements list. In random order, presented within a few logical parts.
Layers, Smart layer and Blending Styles
⦁    In free transform mode (whatever you transform - text, smart layer, maked layer) when you try to pull square handle on transformation frame it changes absolutely unexpectedly. It cause major inconvenience and wrong transformation all the time you do it. It happens even when you transform text layer. Espetially it is the problem when you have a large layer hidden by mask mostly. Sometimes handles and the frame go far outside the working space trying to represent size of layer by itself so it's impossible to operate. It is really stupid problem. SOLUTION - Layer frame in both regular move and transfromation mode must remain the same size! Also on masked layer Photoshop must take mask center as layer center.
⦁    + When we have rotated layer it's frame is not rotated too. It cause inconvenience when you try to select layer underneath. Solution - rotated layer frame must always apperar rotated too.
⦁    There is a way to distribute a number of layers by their centers. But there's no way to achieve more common for web-designers task - distribute elements with constant margin. It must be there)
⦁    Often have to deal with a lot of smart layers, which, in fact, should not have to be so, but had to because of the need to change the filter or distort it, retaining the ability to edit it. We have to work with it as a separate document, blindfolded, which is often very uncomfortable. Why not add the ability to edit it in isolated mode, as in Illustrator, in the same document in which it is located? Or give an option to apply smart filters to not-smart objects. Please, concider this change, it's one of most significant changes have to be done to this program. The way it is now is not smart enough)
⦁    Blending (layer) styles. Why are they limited so strange? Why can't shadow be wider than 255 pixels? It's too strange. + when you make huge-huge banners you have to make elemnts smaller, turn them to smart layers and scale up to acheve effects size as needed. Strange. And must be solved.
⦁    When you work with layer styles you must see everything as it is, without any overlays. In CS6 something always interfere you to see object you are working with!
⦁    When you transform object that has layer styles those styles transform too. Where is an option to let them remain the same as before transformation???
⦁    The only way to crop layer is to make a mask and hit delete. But if layer goes outside the borders of document there will be areas that will remain after this. Solution - we need layer crop tool. Really need
⦁    Why we can add as many raster masks to the layer but can't do the same with vector masks? Why?
⦁    in CS6 adding adjustment layers and their editing are on two different tabs. It's very, very uncomfortably! Better make it as it was before.
⦁    When you transfer layer to the group, simply draggin'n'droppng it on the group icon - why, why does it falls all the way down to the very bottom? Where is logic???
⦁    Guides and notes. When we create multi-layered designs (each page of site in own group) both guides and notes are global (are not linked to certain group or layer) and in process of designing we have a mash with a huge amount of rulers and it's already impossible sometime to decide - what page is this guide related to? Solution - Illustrator-like guides represented by spetial kind of layer. I think one such layer must hold a few rullers (as well as notes) at one time.
⦁    About guides again. When you graw a shape with pen and hold down control to move a point near guide cursor starts to move guide. Stupid? Definately. Solution - whatever tool му are working with when you hold down control button coursor must not move guides.
⦁    When you deal with layer styles you can't pick color from the object you are working over. No, you can, but you'll pick the color of object by itself, excluding blending options. Strange behavior
⦁    Why when we undo actions hiding and showing layers are not recorded as a step in history? It's pretty strange often, when you see something wrong, but can't remember that you hid a layer) I think we have to include this action in history or create separate hotkey for that , Shift-z/Shift-y, maybe
⦁    Very, very frustrating when you select a layer, do something and undo than. Selection goes back to previews layer! It's intorelably!!!
⦁    When you copy png from Firefox, for example, and paste it to photoshop the black color appears instead of alpha channel. Very boring...
⦁    Working with text tool. When you click with this tool over text layer hidden by other layer you go strait to this hidden text layer. Why????? It's horribly stupid. If layer is overlaped with other, it may not be selected this way. Must be fixed
⦁    same happens with rotated text layer. You click outside of it, but inside it's frame, and... You select it and enter editing mode. Annoying.
⦁    I prepose to add setting to make Smart guides visible all the time, not only when we move something. Like in Illustrator.
⦁    After raster layer transformation it MUST NOT be resampled immendately. Another words, Photoshop must save in memory original image and when we decide to transform it again it will transform original image, not resampled. There still are a lot of designers who does not understand that after each transformation image looses quality.
⦁    I think it will be pretty useful - linking parameters. For example, I have a few layers that represent one element of design and they are distributed in document separately so I can't group them. I want to hide them all (or show). If we will be able to link them there will not be such question.
⦁    To the point. In After Effects there is pretty handy feature that can be called "color-variables". It allows you to choose some color or a few and link color of certain elements to this variables. It gives a quick and super-easy way to quickly recolor your artwork, design an so on... I think Photoshop looses much without this great feature. Every change to big, multi-layerd design is a big problem...
⦁    Elemen-variable or instance copy. Yes, yes). Emagine - we have 10-pages site in one psd. On each page we have such a common for all the site elements as menu, footer, ui-elements and so on... Client wants to change something little in one of those elements, and.... You have to perform HUGE work replacing all this elements on all the pages... Scared?) So I think instance copies of layers and groups will become must-have in serious designer's arsenal as well as color-variables
⦁    Free-transform tool. It's not too useful now. I see at least two big downsides - resempling algorithm destroys image quality. And most important - when you get out of presets to custom mesh you have no any option to customize it. Moving corners does not affect their handles. Operating with this mesh is very uncomfortable.
Text
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⦁    Font preview. When we hover over font in drop-down list the text we are working with must be displayed in the font we hovered. Like in ms word. Fast and easy method to preview what we want
⦁    + I think it's necessary to have ability to change regular "sample" preview text with something different. I think also that when we select a pice of text and change the font "sample" must be swapped with selected text. No sure it will work well and fast, but it would be a nice feature
⦁    In all Adobe programms we have some fonts that has no Cyrilic and hieroglyohic sybols, but there are avilable even for free vertions of those font with this symbols. For example Stencil. I think it have to be fixed.
⦁    In text parameters we have no ability to add dashed underline to text, change it's color. In Web it's very common task, so why isn't it here?
⦁    Anti-aliasing. There are a lot of browsers, each has own anti-aliasing filter. But when you design anything in Photoshop and after see it in real life you see something different! Fonts are smoothing differently, and Adobe has no any anti-aliasing model that will emulate any of browser's real-life anti-aliasing. It must be concidered as a thing to change.
⦁    + we have the same with underline! Very often we see fat strange underline where in browser it must be thin 1 pixel line. Not good...
⦁    Pixel-perfect text. I said about it already, but... We really need it, I repeat)
Shapes and vector.
⦁    Symmetry tools. We really need it)
⦁    While editing one point's handles on bezier curve you can see only handles nearest to this point. Why isn't there an option to show them all?
⦁    Custom shapes. I understand why they are separated buy setst, but why does dialog this stupid annoying "do you really want to replace this set with another" appears every time you change the set??? And why can't we review all the sets in the same time?
⦁    Procedural shapes. When you create a shape you often see that wrong paremeters were chosen, but you can't change it already. You have to delete that shape and draw another. We need a posibility to chage shape parameters after creating figure.
⦁    Scaling shapes and moving points. It's a pain when you scale a shape that's exactly (for example) 50*50 px, but because of pixel snapping the size is dancing about 30+31, or 31*30... It currupts the shape.
⦁    + you will have the same behavior while moving point. Sometimes it's must-have options, sometimes it really get a nerves.
⦁    BUGGEST fail with paths and shapes. If a point of the shape is placed initially it the middle of pixel you'll not be able to snap it to the pixel grid at all!!! It will always move at least 1 pixel in any demention, but will never be snapped properly. Fail, really)
⦁    When you select a shape layer and try to do a region selection over point on the path, and accedentaly click on shape layer below that, you will be switched to layer below immendately! It's ****ly annoying!
⦁    While drawing a shape new points don't snap to already existing ones. Same happens when you just move a poit. It seems to me Illustrator-like snapping will be pretty handy in this situation
⦁    + We really miss snap on bezier handles!
⦁    I tried to round a corner of path. And I can say sometimes it's even impossible to do, it's all manual. Maybe add a "chamfer" tool for vector layers?
⦁    We really need an analog of Illutrator's pathfinder. Of cource, Phoshop is not a vector program, but if there are vector tools they must be comfortable and overall.
⦁    I really want to see a way to merge two or more shape layers to one preserving shapes buy themself. I'm sure it's good idea
⦁    There must be an option to preserve handles position of neares point of path when we delete on of them. Now Photoshop tries to preserve shape, but in a lot of cases it currupts whe path we are working with.
⦁    We need more, and different, anti-aliasing models for vector shape. Same as for the text.
⦁    Masks. There's very poor functionality. For example, we can transform selection, but can't transform vector mask applied to layer. We can't add/substruct/do anything alse with it what must normally be able to do.
Additional notes about performance and usability
⦁    Moving canvas. Why when document does not fill all the canvas we can't move it around? It's so stupid and uncomfortable...
⦁    Scroll bars. Who uses it? It's not usefil but takes a space. I think it's better to remove it or make them thinner
⦁    When you save document the path we saved last one must be default.
⦁    Changing extension must be more (much more) fast and easy. When we type extension in save dialog we well save document in psd, and it does not mean whatever we had type - png, jpg or something other. Why so stupid?
⦁    Save for Web dialog is not easy to use at all. Why can't we define a preset for all the slices at once or just apply it to each slice? The default gif preset is to unuseful, and changing it is a pain. I think it really worth to redisign this dialog.
⦁    Placing instrument settings in prefereces dialog (such as "snap vector shapes" or "image interpolation" is very, very wrong idea! All that settings must appear on the tool settings panel, otherwise it's very uncomfotrable to use
⦁    New representation of shape layers is very uncomfortable. Bring it back as it was - just solid color layer and mask on top of it.
⦁    Control-Alt-Z, Control-Z... It's very annoying when you undo with Control-Z, want to return, press Control-Shft-Z and nothing happens. Stupid behavior. Undo and Stap backward commands must be the same, with same hotkey.
⦁    When you try to drag n' drop a layer holding down Alt to copy it, and it's already placed on top of the layer stack you have no ability to copy it on top of original one. I think it must be fixed
⦁    Selecting any layer near selection frame of another layer is impossible, cursor turns to rotation/transformation mode.
⦁    Working with transformation box is a real pain. For example, when we try to move any little tiny layer we can't, becose or you start to move ancor point (that we don't do very often) or you start to transform layer. Very inconvinient.
⦁    When we grag layers from one document to another from layers panel we must always detach one document's windows to be able to do it. If we do the same moving the layers with alt held down we can transfer the between documents in different tabs. I think in both scenarios there must be a possibility to move them without need to detach window.
⦁    I think PS really needs advanced snapping system, much more advanced and smart than now. You'll laugh, but take a look at google's presentation maker, even it's snapping system much more advanced than what we have in Photoshop
MOST IMPORTANT CONCEPT.
Here I want to talk about how to make complex work more logic and easier. It's bold (maybe) concept, but believe me, it worth to make it reality. So...
⦁    Blending options. They have fixed, strict order that may not be changed. That limits our opportunuty to combine them, that makes impossible to acheve some complicated effects we want. I propose you the following:
Blending options, each one, will be represented as an independed effect. We can change their order and amount, copy, delete, add, hide, hide with masks, do anything we want. Exactly the same possibility as with smart objects. And here we go to...
⦁    Layered logic. To be honest, all those blending options and smart filter (remember what I said about their new concept hereinabove) are just sub-layers, but they are represented differently. It makes harder to use and understand. Let's lead it to a common denominator
⦁    Simpiest example - we have a layer with stroke. We want it to cast a shadow. Switching on Drop Shadow we'll see that that shadow is UNDERNEATH the stroke! And we have no way to solve it. Allowing users to reorder blending options filters as sublayers, as we can now reaorder smart objects, well be the indispensable feature! + we will not confuze old-school users leaving old set and old order of those options buy default.
⦁    + A really crazy thought... What if we'll be able to apply blending option to another blending option? Just imagine - for example, we create a stroke, and above that we create one more. And we can make as much as we want. How complex effects can be that we'll achive!
⦁    And, of cource, each blending option filter (let's call it so) must be able to have own mask. Really great feature, I imagine what a cool effects we'll be able to achive!
⦁    UPD. And (especially since you've dropped suddenly and imprudently dropped Fireworks) Save for Web dialog must be redisigned entierly, from scratch. Now it's about unusable.
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⦁    Per-element gradient. Often we have a layer with a few objects, or text layer with a few strings. If we apply gradient to that it will distribute colors from the very to to the very bottom. Per-element gradient will be handy when we want to apply it each string or character separately.
⦁    Gradient handles. Illustrator has this feature, why not to add it to Photoshop? Also I think the same controls for gradient overlay and gradient layer will be handy.
⦁    Gradient for stroke. The same as in AI.
⦁    What if we'll add a kind of interactive handles to stroke settings? So we'll be able to refine stroke thikness and color right on the shape it's applied to. Good idea?)
⦁    Gradients in such blending option as outer and inner glow, shadow, stroke well be very useful.
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⦁    When you are duplicating and coping layers the layer panel becomes a horrible mess with dozens on layers with names like "Layer 123 copy 14" and it's very hard to sort it all out. Maybe it's better to copy layer with the same name as it's original?
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⦁    Clone stamp tool. It's great, but it's not as great as it can be. Very often after retouching an image you can notice the cloned areas. It's very noticeable and unveils the deception immendately. The main problem here is that the samples photoshop take as source for stamp may not be randomized (rotated and scaled randomly). Also, we can't do it manually. And donig a good healing becomes more complicated task than it could be.
⦁    Stamp again. Very annoying problem - when you heal a layer that ends within document frame Clone stamp starts to allow for "supposed" transperancy that does not really exist on image. So you get transparent areas where layer was ending and where it must not be.
⦁    In Russian Photoshop layer panel is expanded too much because of it's long title...)

No. You cannot be taken seriously.
1. Photoshop is not Illustrator / Fireworks / Premiere / After effects / Dreamweaver / InDesign. Thank god Adobe. It is already bloated enough.
2. Much worse: your improvement list is sometimes faulty.
These are randomly selected examples:
Anri Orlow schrieb:
When you are duplicating and coping layers the layer panel becomes a horrible mess with dozens on layers with names like "Layer 123 copy 14" and it's very hard to sort it all out. Maybe it's better to copy layer with the same name as it's original?
Rename your layer. See screenshot.
Anri Orlow schrieb:
When you try to drag n' drop a layer holding down Alt to copy it, and it's already placed on top of the layer stack you have no ability to copy it on top of original one. I think it must be fixed
False. Press first Alt and move the layer a little bit upwards until you see the light line.
Anri Orlow schrieb:
Custom shapes. I understand why they are separated buy setst, but why does dialog this stupid annoying "do you really want to replace this set with another" appears every time you change the set??? And why can't we review all the sets in the same time?
What - in your opinion - means the upmost entry in the list?
Anri Orlow schrieb:
Why we can add as many raster masks to the layer but can't do the same with vector masks? Why?
Only 1 layermask + 1 vectormask maximum per layer. Try it.
3. Some of your wishes are ok, but have in mind: different people have different wishes.
miss marple

Saving as a PDF shows poor quality

Hello Forum,
I designed a logo for a client and, for unusual circumstances, designed it in Photoshop instead of Illustrator. It's nothing too fancy - some text with a nice graphic. However, upon saving the file in a PDF my logo's edges come out visually poor depending on your percentage of magnification. For example, if you're looking at it at 100% magnification then it looks fine, however, the majority of other magnification percentages it just looks horendous. When I print it it looks fine as expected.
Normally this isn't an issue, however, this particular logo is being placed in an electronic brochure and is only going to be viewed online. The goal of this query is to figure out a way in which I can place this logo in this brochure and have the edges look fine upon viewing under any magnification.
Facts:
• The logo is text with a transparent background. Removing the transparency fixes the choppy edges issue, however, because the brochure has a gradient in the background this really isn't an option.
• Designed in Photoshop CS4
• Is all vector based despite being in Photoshop with the exclusion of layer styles. Contains various layer styles included a drop shadow, gradient, and stroke. Removing any/all of these doesn't alter the edges, however.
• I sent the native photoshop file to the client and he used a different PDF application to PDF it and the logo looks fine. I'm unaware what application he used, unfortunately.
• PDF was saved several times using various settings as well as nearly every preset it comes with (full quality, email quality, etc.).
Any help you guys have to offer would be wonderful.

As been noted PDF is not a good choice if your client is going to be scalling the logo for different size documents. If your client has Photoshop save it as a layered PSD file so it will scale well. If you create it large in size it will scale down well when it is placed into a document. Transform also can scale placed PSD files poorly if they are small are transformed up in size. However you can also double click on the smart object placed icon in the layers palette and photoshop will open the smart object psd into photoshop and you can resize the smart object using Photoshop images size where text font size will be changed by changing the text size of the text layers and vector graphics will be scaled up interpolation will not be used.
If you create the logo large you could most likely get by with just using the place transform and automate the process with an action. My crafting Action contains a good sample action. http://www.mouseprints.net/old/dpr/JJMacksCraftingActions.zip
Contains:
Action Actions Palette Tips.txt
Action Creation Guidelines.txt
Action Dealing with Image Size.txt
Action Enhanced via Scripted Photoshop Functions.txt
CraftedActions.atn Sample Action set includes an example Watermarking action
EXAMPLE
Sample Actions.txt Photoshop CraftedActions set saved as a text file. This file has some additional comments I inserted describing how the actions work.
12 Scripts for actions

Missing tools Adobe Muse

if they created a new web program, taking away support adobe firework, there are tools that are necessary for the web:
Create a rectangular slice based on a selected object
Add Filters button in the Properties panel.
Photoshop Live Effects
Tools and properties panel used in adobe fireworks

williatb,
I believe the bar menu widget was taken out around 2.0. The bar menu was really just a horizontal widget with styling, though (gradient fills, stroke, etc). So you can achieve the same effect by styling a horizontal menu.
Colby

Fireworks to Illustrator Issue

I am trying to export a full vector graphic (only gradients, blend modes, opacity and strokes). When i export to AI8 file format, it reduces file customisation to the minimum.
It converts the gradients to a solid fill
The blend modes dissapear
The opacity is up to 100%
It just keeps the first colour of the gradient, the strokes and of course the actual verctor shapes.
Could anyone tell me how to work around this ? I would only need gradients and opacity to convert properly, because i believe that AI doesn't even have blend modes. If somebody will suggest me to work in AI instead, i am much more familiar with FW and i have a better workfow with this app , just that some of my clients preffer AI and i have to export files for them. At the moment after i export it to AI, i go and edit the file once again to set the gradients and opacities as they were in FW.
Thank you !
PS: i have uploaded a sample exported to AI and also the native PNG source file.
Edit: Part of the problem is resolved (i deselected the "Freehand Compatible option") and i now have Gradients (allthought the elipse gradient is straightened , instead of oblique) , but what about Opacity and Gradient Opacity?

Cristi Marin wrote:
As i said in my original post , i am very familliar with Fireworks, but some of my clients prefer AI for vector illustrations, and i thought that i could work around some export issues so it would render properly as an .ai
One more question, do you think that adobe will perfect these export issues in the future so their whole CS suite will be compatible in between?
Thanks you for your responses so far!
That's a tough position to be in (having clients who want your files in .ai). If you have vector illustrations that are components of your Web design work, you might want to lean more on Illustrator for the drawing and move to Fireworks for the compositing work. I don't know if it will fly, but you could try explaining to your clients that you use Fireworks for your final files because its hybrid vector/raster abilities and its focus on Web production makes you more efficient. (The standard time = money argument.)
Fireworks came to Adobe with a completely different code base from Adobe's products. From CS3 to CS4, Adobe replaced the section of code for text rendering, to have Fireworks and Photoshop use the same code. A major code transplant like that is difficult and, in my opinion, shows that Adobe is serious about bringing Fireworks fully into the CS suite. I am certainly not in a position to guess what features Adobe has prioritized for the next cycle. You might submit a Feature Request for better .ai export here, though: https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform

AI CS6 took away the Opacity sliders

I just discovered to my horror that there are no opacity sliders in Illustrator CS6.
Seems like the program is going backwards now. Whatever.

W.O.W.
Using the mouse wheel to adjust opacity is bloody brilliant! And I think it's WAY better that using a slider. Being able to do this is a lot closer to how we use our hands and watch what we're doing with immediate feedback when we sketch or mold clay in the real world. THIS is what AI should do more of. Holy cow. Fantastic!
Now THIS is the kind of stuff I like to see in new versions! This stuff is way more valuable to me than fancy new features I only use now and then.
Problem is, I wasn't even aware of it. Just the opposite, I thought a feature had been taken away (which I wasn't aware of until I stumbled upon it.) And then I got angry. All the while you guys had added something better. Why in the world don't you publish this stuff? Every time I searched for information on what is new in CS6 all I get is the same old stuff: pattern maker, gradients on strokes and stuff aimed at new users.
We would very much like to know, specifically, what exactly has changed. Like Photoshop's JDI list. Why isn't there one for Illustrator? I'd love to see it.
Tweaking the interface doesn't matter at all unless you tell people about it. I never would have thought to try the middle mouse wheel. Which, again, is a fantastic addition. Actually, so far, it's my favorite new feature. Especially for rounded corners. Very often I have boxes that require corner radii of less than an inch, which requires a decimal value to set. Having to enter that number for stuff like that just does not work, and stops your flow. Now, it's a breeze!
Thanks, Ivan David! Is there somewhere we can see a detailed list of all the other changes??
Update: Wow, this works for stuff like Strokes and Height/Width too! It even works on the fields in the Color Sliders. You don't even have to click the field, just put your mouse over it, even better. This makes up for AI's tiny color sliders (all the sliders) where smaller movements are difficult. I'm starting to like Adobe Illustrator again.
Did I say Wow yet? So far this is my favorite new feature. I may seem over excited over something that may seem so small but, for me, this makes using AI closer to real world interaction.
One thing I'd like to add is that I use a PC mouse with my Mac. I can't stand Mac mice. But I do remember that the center "ball" was over-sensitive, so Mac users may not get the right interaction using this features. It would prolly be a good idea to add a new modifier key to slow things down.
Please let us know if there's a list somewhere of all the other tweaks, I can't wait to see it.

Evolution of Kuler

I am using Kuler very often, especially now when it is built
in CS3 Illustrator, and I decide to give
something back to Kuler.
Because I am designer I (and all of you who uses Kuler) have
some other needs.
My proposal is to put some new cool features in Kuler, like
choosing and creating of GRADIENTS,
Shades, shadows, and maybe brushes. To add a feature for
creating favorites for AdobeID users. I know that out there are
some genious ideas and I want to make a priority list of our needs
frome that creative side, and to make summary of most important.
Then we will contact adobe, and I am sure they will make:
KULER2 AN ULTIMATE CREATIVE SOLUTION to make unique palettes,
unique gradients, compare strokes, make unique shapes, and many
more... innovative, collaborative solution, KULER 2
Please participate and give your suggestion.

gradients and web 2.0 style blends might be a nice addition.
i would say that strokes and brushes don't belong on kuler, but
maybe in a separate but similar application.

Gradients in Strokes?

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