Graduated Filter creates saturated image

Still getting to grips with Lightroom 3 and the graduated filter is working in strange ways. When I apply it the whole image goes super saturated and high in contrast. I have to click back in the history and then back on to the latest adjustment to make it go away. Anyone else seen anything similar?
OS X 10.5.8

original image
grad applied to top half and whole image goes supersaturated
click back in history and then forward and all is at it should be.
Lightroom 2 didn't do this.

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