Graduated filters

When I'm trying to use the graduated filter tool in 3.5 I don't end up with the lines or the marker to adjust it after I've applied it, the line and marker don't show up while I'm applying the filter and aren't there afterward either. Is there some place I need to select that as how it's shown?
Also, I have a windows 7 laptop that meets the requirements for running lightroom but I'm having trouble with it not running very fluid-ly. That is if I move a slider to make an adjustment it doesn't apply it while I'm doing that it takes quite a few seconds and then applies it, which leaves me really all over the place trying to make fine little adjustments. It takes it's time to load photos and such which really isn't a big deal to me but for the little movements of the sliders or the curves I really would like to see what it's doing as it's doing it. If I had a more powerful laptop (or desktop but at this stage of my life I prefer laptop) would that improve that?

Lightroom has so many shortcuts that I cannot even begin to remember them all. But this one is a gotcha that seems to catch a lot of people off guard.

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LR5 Graduated filters not applied to final image

I have recently had an issue using the graduated filters in the LR5 develop module. While in the develop module (working with a raw image (panasonic GH3)), I can apply and use graduated filters without issue, but when I switch to the library module or export the image , the changes disappear. I have shot a few test shots since and worked with some old images and I cannot reproduce this issue. I have the same problem with every image from a single import. There have been no changes in settings on the camera or in Lightroom. I did use a new memory card, but I doubt that the card is the issue. Attached is a screen shot of the image while in the develop module (right) and library module (left). Anyone have ideas on how to fix this problem or avoid it in the future.

This is probably actually not the graduated filter not working, but the preview in Develop not being reliable when zoomed out. I've run into this with my own star images. This often comes up in images such as this with lots of fine structure. The noise reduction is not shown reliably in Develop when zoomed out. Then when you switch to Develop, it creates a good preview image that does have noise reduction enabled and suddenly your images appear different and less punchy especially when you have lots of little star points. It is actually more representative in these conditions. Make sure you zoom into 1:1 to really judge what is happening. At 1:1 the preview is correct in Develop when you have lots of fine detail. You probably have a graduated filter with clarity here? That is notorious for not previewing correctly with such images in Develop. To test whether the filter actually takes, do something extreme such as a few stops of exposure or so.

Why no brightness slider in graduated filters?

Hi,
Why does LR4 no longer have a brightness slider in the graduated filters? LR3 had both exposure AND brightness. So far I can't seem to get the effects I used to be able to get using the shadows and highlights sliders that I could easily get with the brightness slider. Still experimenting but right now would say to bring back brightness.
Thanks,
Steve

Process Version 2012 has eliminated the Brightness slider...best bet is to use Exposure–which in PV 2012 is a bit more like Brightness but stronger so you need less. Also note that Highlights and Shadows are now different as well. PV 2012 needs a new learning curve. You need to adapt and adopt to the new behaviors...

Problem with using graduated filters

I have used a graduated filter in a photo and it has darkened some rock that I would like to be lighter, how do I go about doing this?

Your best bet is to have a play with the Burn tool (the one that looks like a pin).
Example using the image you suggested:
Original...
After using the Burn Tool...
This was quickly created but with more time spent on it, you should get the idea.
Working with Dodge and Burn | Learn Photoshop CS6 | Adobe TV
I hope you achieve the effect you want.

Add a mirror check box to graduated filters

Wherein the effect rolls off in either direction, Good for example to correct overexposure in the center of the frame. Or give a spotlight effect.

Rakesh,
Go to SPRO --->Financial Accounting ---> CARP ---> Basic Functions ---> Contract Accounts ---> Field Modifications ---> Configure Field Attributes for Contract Account Category
Here u can define different contract account categories,then with field grouping tab (which is on upper left corner ) , u can define view for different fields present.
Hope this will help u..
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Lightroom 5 Graduated filter will not work from the centre out

Hi
I am running Lightroom 5.6 but I think this has always been the same. The Graduated filter in the Basic Development module only seems to work from the edges inward (from top/bottom or sides). I would like to create a filter across the centre (for a lake) but I can figure how to do this. I guess the only way is to use the new Radial filter is that correct (I would prefer to use the Grad filter).

To create the equivalent of a Graduated filter with the effect starting at the center you can drag the radial filter endpoint to stretch it off-screen. Use the hand tool to push the radial filter off-screen and then drag the endpoint out further. You may need to do this a few times. You can also use two Graduated filters back to back, which gives you the ability to apply a centered Exposure correction and adjustments for Highlights and Shadows correction that are different on each side.

Lightroom style Graduated filter?

I just started working with DNG images, which I thought was great because I could color correct them in Lightroom 5, which I'm used to because I have a background in stills. However I quickly realized if I put any graduated filters or such down, of course they won't follow any camera movements. I know Resolve can do tracking, and I see Premiere can now / soon too.
So far I wanted to reduce the saturation of a frosty paddock, while boosting it in the sky for the sunrise. It seemed the best way to do that was a graduated filter. Is that possible in Premiere? Or do I need to look at After Effects or Resolve for that?
Any thoughts would be great. Thanks!

There are reports that tracking doesn't work so well but, in theory, you could do this by applying masks to each area, color correcting them separately, and then tracking them.
The masking/tracking options are available in color correction effects -- fast, 3-way, luma curve, etc. To treat these two areas, you'd apply two such effects to the clip, for the two different areas -- draw the mask, color correct that masked area and track it. Add these effects above any primary corrections, otherwise you may get strange behavior -- the order of the effects is important and sometimes, in unpredictable ways. And again, can't vouch for tracking, you'll need to try.

[LR 4.1] Graduated filter bug

Hi,
I have an image horizontally divided in two parts : 2/3 (sky) and 1/3 (ground). I have created 2 graduated filters, each fully and exactly covering one part of the image. I created the biggest one (2/3) first. The two graduated filters do not overlap.
When I apply effects to the first graduated filter, everything happens as expected : any change made to the exposure, saturation or whatever parameter only affects the area covered by the graduated filter.
When I (try to) apply effects to the second graduated filter (1/3 - covering the rest of the image), any change is applied to the whole image, as if the graduated filter was covering all the image.
It's too severe a bug to imagine that nobody noticed it until now. On the other hand, this behavior is not logical.
It's not specific to a particular image. I can reproduce this on any image.
Did I miss something obvious?
Anyone already seen this ?
Thanks in advance.

So while I admit that it's not a bug "per se", I realize that something is missing : the ability to apply the graduated effect in the reverse direction. Which is not the same as flipping the filter upside down.
Either I am missing something, or flipping the filter upside down (or dragging upwards from the start) is exactly what you need - you only have to apply the inverse value of the effect you want to use.
Example: You want to make the lower half of the image <i>brighter</i> (as opposed to the common case to make the upper half [sky] darker): Set exposure to a <i>positive</i> value and then drag upwards.
But perhaps I didn't understand your point correctly...
EDIT: Ok, perhaps now I understood: I looked again at your question: "So what if I want to apply say, a low saturation from a point located below the middle of the image, progressively returning to the normal saturation at the bottom of the image, without affecting the upper part of this image?": So you want to "reverse" the filter effect in such a way that it:
immediately (abruptly) starts at full strenght at line #1
gradually dropping to zero strengts at line #2
Is that correct? If it is: No, that is not directly possible. Probably because the graduated filter are modelled after real-world filters, which cannot do such things (AFAIK). You have to use two filters together to get the desired effect, just like trshaner described above. Here is a quickly done example - hopefully this is exactly what you like to achive:
For this example, I used a very thin GF (dragged upwards) at the line where the saturation sharply drops (set to -100) and a larger GF (also dragged upwards) spanning from the bottom of the picture to the first GF, with saturation +100, so it gradually counteracts the first GF.

Clicking on Graduated filter pin jumps to a different image

This is a weird one, but I am new to lightroom. I have these pins on my image, which are all grey, and when I click on them, they jump to another image. I can't seem to figure out what is happening here.. I think they were created when I add a graduated filter,,,
Can anyone explain what is happening here??? I cannot delete them because when I click on them they jump to a diffeferent image... It's super annoying trying to add graduated filters when you keep jumping to a different image...

That certainly is a weird one! Can we see a screenshot, just in case it's not a graduated filter pin?

Shapeable garduated filters using Bezier curves

LR’s graduated filters are an excellent feature, which I use quite a lot.
However they’re still limited in the same way as real grads are: they run in a straight line across a region of equal width.
I often wish it was possible to tweak their shape into a curve and widen the graduation in some parts of the image while keeping it narrower in other parts. It would be great, if the three lines could be altered independently like you draw Bezier curves in a vector drawing application. That would allow to adjust the graduation to fit the image’s content better, without having to resort to workarounds such as using the local adjustment brush to undo the effects of the graduated filter.

Yeah I've definintely run in to the same problem. I like the idea. Another one would be the option to erase and add to a gradient, though I'd imagine that would take a lot of programming and problem solving...

Graduated Filter doesn't show guide lines or dots

I'm used to using the three lines that the graduated filter shows to determine how extreme my adjustments will be. But about three months ago, this stopped showing up. I've scoured the Internet and checked the settings, to no avail. I've been guess-and-checking it since then, but it's difficult. Also, the little circles showing where I've applied graduated filters don't show up when I click on the filter tool. So, once I make a filter I cannot change or delete it independent of going back in my history.
Any help would be greatly apprecaited!

At the left bottom corner of the image there are two small triangles. Click on them and you'll get a fly-out menu. Select <Always> and the pin and the guide lines will show. ee screen shot

Lightroom Brushes are adding a Tint, even images converted to B&W

I'm using Lightroom 4.4 on Mac.
Having an issue where all brushes and graduated filters are adding a warm yellow tint, no matter what the color settings are for the brush. The tint persists, even if I convert the image to B&W within Lightroom.

Turns out there WAS a very light color slected with the brush. I never use that feature, so I have no idea how it got selected. And the tiny little color window in the pallete is so easy to miss...
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Lightroom 1.4 won't read RAW images from my camera

I upgraded from a Canon Rebel XT to a Canon 1000D (Rebel XS), and it won't read RAW files anymore. When I try to import a RAW file, it says "file appears to be unsupported or damaged."
I've read that I can download a plugin to solve this problem, but I'm not having much luck. I've downloaded Camera Raw 5.2, which says that it supports the Canon XS, but it's still not working. Perhaps I've installed it incorrectly? Please help. :)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but another workaround for this common issue of trying to use RAW images taken with a newer camera than is supported by the version of Adobe software you have may be to use Canon software included with the Canon XS to import the Canon RAW images to your PC's hard drive, and then import them using the Adobe software. If they're still not recognized by LR, you'd have to first convert them with Canon software to another format such as TIFF or JPG, which of course, besides being a nuisance additional second step, loses the advantage of having taken the photo in RAW to begin with, though you could do basic white balance and exposure corrections with Canon software on the RAW files before converting.
If you'll be using a lot of XS RAW photos in Lightroom, it's probably worth the hundred bucks to upgrade to LR2 which most users feel is much more powerful than LR 1.4 anyway and therefore worth the charge. The adjustment brushes, graduated filters, and improved sharpening make the upgrade worthwhile, and then LR could import your XS' RAW photos directly from the camera. However, *if* your PC is barely managing with LR 1.4, you may find LR 2.x too slow for your PC. You can try LR 2.x first for a time for free before paying for the upgrade. Check out the video tutorials on the upgrades because their use is not intuitive and you may falsely conclude they don't add much function if you don't learn how to use them.

How does the crop-lock and "Effect" settings logic work?

The crop lock and Effect setting have in common the fact that they are unpredictable with a strange logic I have yet to figure out. Questions:
What decision process causes the crop lock to remain locked, and then suddenly decide to stay open from one use to the next (Or the reverse).?
What makes the "Effects" decide to retain its last used settings, and sometimes not? (Usually the last customized setting is NOT what I want for the next photo in line to be edited).
Thanks!

Thank you for the reply!
richardplondon wrote:
There is no distinction betwen edited and un-edited. And the tools and controls do not have any defaults of their own aside from what the images possess. You can't put the crop tool on 3:2 and then move from image to image clicking "apply"; this is simply not how the LR interface works.
Understood, except that these settings are an exception. The effects settings will be stuck in the last positions they where on before you created the edit button. See attached photo for what I mean by edit buttons and associated settings. This also applies to graduated filters.
This is difficult to describe. I think I've figured out the logic but cant understand why anyone would want it to work this way: If I choose a setting *before* making the first mark (i.e. new button) with the tool, those settings will persist forever until I change them (even if I change catalogs). If I change the settings AFTER applying the tool, they are forgotten even if I want to keep them. I never want a custom setting to persist into the next photo because the last tool/setting I used will not likely be the first tool used in the next photo.
And just to be clear, the effects I'm referring to are on the right. The timing of WHEN you adjust those settings determines whether or not they persist in what I consider an undesirable way. In other words, in order to avoid messing up the presets, I must always start the tool before adjusting the effects. That is the only way to keep them from persisting into the next tool/button operation.

Mixing ACR 5.7 and 6.2

I grew quite fond of processing my RAW shots through ACR, accessed through Bridge CS4. I'm a Mac PSE user, and thought I got a pretty good trade: give up PSE Organizer, get full-featured ACR. "Expose to the Right," adjustment brushes, presets...rah!
Sadly, that gig is partially up: PSE8 ships with Organizer and de-featured ACR 6.2. Upgrading to full PS just to get full ACR is too expensive. So, unless I move to LR, I'm wondering what happens if I mix-and-match 5.7 and 6.2. Use ACR 5.7 for initial workflow, including capture sharpening and most edits. For selected images that are the keepers (and/or merit PS editing), open in Elements ACR 6.2, change to PV2010, adjust sharpening and noise reduction there.
My two questions:
the noise reduction in PSE ACR 6.2 seems to be the improved stuff, correct? And no sliders for luminance and color detail, so are those effectively set to zero?
the PSE ACR 6.2 seems to read OK any of the changes made in 5.7 (adjustment brushes, graduated filters), so my guess is under the hood the XMP processing is pretty full-featured...anything that I should NOT do in 5.7 because the PSE version of 6.2 can't/won't read it?
thx

stewch wrote:
…The Bridge CS4 that I have came as part of PSE.
…and you're saying you think that gives you a full version of ACR 5.7?
Wow !
You mean you see all nine adjustment tabs, all the subtabs and all the adjustment sliders in ACR 5.7?
1.— Basic   (11 sliders)
2.— Tone Curve
       (Parametric sub-tab 4 sliders; +
        Point sub-tab)
3.— Detail (5 sliders)
4.— HSL/Grayscale tab
       Hue sub-tab (8 sliders), +
       Saturation sub-tab (8 sliders), +
       Luminance sub-tab (8 sliders)
5.— Split Toning tab (5 sliders)
6.— Lens Corrections tab (7 sliders), including
       Lens Vignetting, and Post-Crop Vignetting
7.— Camera Calibration tab (7 sliders) +
       Camera Profile popup menu
8.— Presets tab
9.— Snapshots tab.
This is certainly news to me. Please confirm.
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