Grainy Type / Print as Bitmap

Hello,
We've been having an odd issue with Adobe design software and our Brother 4040CDN colour laser printer. When printing type from an Adobe product (namely Illustrator CS5 or InDesign CS5) it appears grainy and not the precise typographic smoothness you expect from a laser printer.
Printing from Microsoft Word or Apple Pages produces beautiful smooth type, so the issue lies presumably somewhere in the Adobe drivers/settings. After much fiddling with the InDesign CS5 settings, I was able to de-select "Print as Bitmap" in the Advanced print settings and the results were beautiful, smooth vector based type:
However, trying this same technique in Illustrator CS5, I am unable to select or de-select the "Print as Bitmap" option:
I've searched for and tried many different solutions to the grainy type issue, but to no avail. Any insight into:
1) Alternate approaches to solve the "grainy type" issue from Adobe products.
2) Forcing the "Print as bitmap" option in Illustrator CS5.
Thanks in advance. Much appreciated.
-Kyle

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