Grass Valley Turbo iDDR Direct Import Formats?

Has anyone successfully figured out a way to export of video file that imports into a Grass Valley Turbo iDDR seemlessly without the Turbo needing to re-format the media itself?
I'm using 8 of these drives on a live production next week and we're looking to reduce our media import times.

Hi Matt, I produce media for corporate events regularly. I just finished a show where we used 3 Grass Valley Turbo iDDR systems exclusively.
The iDDR accepts QuickTime (h.264 codec with the latest DDR software installed), MPEG2, .WMV and a host of other formats. We used MPEG2 (not muxed) for the DDR as it has a max 480 resolution (think of the DDR as DVD player without the disc). The iDDR has ethernet, usb, and firewire inputs as well as CD/DVD for transfer. We used USB with great results as we were projecting on 32 foot screens.
If you are going out of FCPro (which is what I mainly do), I export as a stand-alone Quicktime file (Progressive or Interlace depending on your content) then I use Compresser with a custom setting of MPEG2 (audio/video combined). No problems.
As a side note, contact your AV person who runs the iDDR, they are great at answering questions. I also downloaded the iDDR manual from Grass Valley.
Hope this helps you.
DJ

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Has anyone ever used the Grass Valley Turbo iDDR system with Final Cut Pro. If so, how did you transfer the file? What file type?

Hi Matt, I produce media for corporate events regularly. I just finished a show where we used 3 Grass Valley Turbo iDDR systems exclusively.
The iDDR accepts QuickTime (h.264 codec with the latest DDR software installed), MPEG2, .WMV and a host of other formats. We used MPEG2 (not muxed) for the DDR as it has a max 480 resolution (think of the DDR as DVD player without the disc). The iDDR has ethernet, usb, and firewire inputs as well as CD/DVD for transfer. We used USB with great results as we were projecting on 32 foot screens.
If you are going out of FCPro (which is what I mainly do), I export as a stand-alone Quicktime file (Progressive or Interlace depending on your content) then I use Compresser with a custom setting of MPEG2 (audio/video combined). No problems.
As a side note, contact your AV person who runs the iDDR, they are great at answering questions. I also downloaded the iDDR manual from Grass Valley.
Hope this helps you.
DJ

Grass Valley Turbo iDDR + Indigo + FCP

Helou
We are planning to order Grass Valley Indigo mixer and maybe Turbo iDDR with it. but iDDR is not recording quicktimes. only MPEG2 and AVI. do you think it's going to work fine if we mix with Indigo, record with iDDR and edit AVIs with FCP?

The reason why we are looking for iDDR is that Grass Valley's Indigo seems to be the only video mixer with inputs/outputs we need and its cheap. and they should work together quite fine.
How about Grass Valley's M-series iVDR? that should export quictimes, it just doubles the price.
iDDR is so much cheaper than iVDR and iDDR can also handle HD. so I rather buy iDDR.
i did fast test in one of our edits that how FCP can handle AVIs. it seems wo work quite normally. only problem is exporting quictime, I marked "make movie self-contained" but it still exports it like I haven't marked it. then I export as AVI and it worked fine. It doesn't matter in our playout system that is it QT or AVI.
so if FCP-editing with AVI's works normally maybe Indigo+iDDR is our choise.

Need export settings for grass valley T2 iDDR

I'm getting ready to send my show over to a cable station. There requiremnts need to match a Grass Valley T2 IDDR playback unit. They support a wide range of files (DVCPROHD, MPEG-2, Quicktime, HQ AVI, Windows media Video HD), but the frame rates listed are 59.94i, 50i, 24P and 23.98P. Most of the 1920x1080 presets are for 29.97. Any suggestions on thye best preset or settings to use? It list HQ AVI as an acceptable format, is that the same as mp4 (H.264?). Here's a link to the file formats supported (page 15): http://www.grassvalley.com/docs/Application_Notes/servers/t2/PRV-4146M_EDIUS_T2_AppNote.pd f

Thread resurrection...
Hmmm. A rather unhelpful, and slightly arrogant, response there from Jim Cookman. I don't read anywhere in the OP about using this setup 'in the field'...
I have an Indigo, and I've been having the same problems as the OP (testing the setup prior to using in the field!).
I've tried capturing the 1394 outputs to a variety of devices, with mixed success.
To a Macbook Pro with FCS:
Basically followed the process outlined by Studio X above.
FCP7 will not recognise the device at all, even with 'non-contollable device' selected. All permutations of settings tried.
However, iMovie is quite happy with the video stream, and displays it OK.
To a W7 laptop with Avid Media Composer & VLC player:
MC will not recognise the device, and will not accept that there is a DV signal there.
However, VLC is quite happy with the video stream, and displays it OK.
To a Sony HVR-M15E deck:
This displays the video stream, but it is broken up with grey blocks all over the screen.
The one thing that links all these is that at no point is any audio present.
Further reseach has uncovered this Indigo FAQ: www.grassvalley.com/rnt/Switcher/Indigo%2015%20-%20IEEE%201394%20Firewire.pdf
that states something that is not mentioned anywhere in the user manual or data sheet: the Indigo 1394 ports do not carry audio, either as inputs or outputs!
Which, combined with the fact that they only seem to be recognised by non-professional applications, renders them pretty useless, IMO.

QT & Grass Valley Turbo videoplayer - Lines missing

Hello,
We use a video play machine called Grass Valey Turbo iDDR.
http://catalogs.infocommiq.com/AVCat/CTL1197/index.cfm/mlcid/430/mrcid/1197/SID/19476222/prodid/341098.htm
It uses QT to play video.
One channnel has a QT video file and another channel has a QT alpha file (bw only, indicating where transparency should be at)
Problem is, 95 of the movies have the 2 upper most lines missing, which results in underlaying footage showing through. (not desirable)
Some movies are complete, but only few.
All movies are made the same way, TGA compression @ 100 quality.
Still there are differences.
How can this be?
Kind regards,
Geoff Vane

Ah yep, sorry, well spotted. I didn't notice it had reverted back to NTSC.
I did some searching around and no-one seemed to have a solution to this problem other than using another compression program such as Episode or Cleaner. Unfortunately these cost money.
It's worth requesting this as a feature for a future update. Hopefully Apple will be devoting more development time to Compressor for version 4.
http://www.apple.com/feedback/compressor.html

FCP and Grass Valley K2

Hi All
The educational institution I am working at is considering upgrading from Grass Valley Turbo, to the K2. has anybody out there had any experience with the K2 and FCP interface?
the website says the workflow is flawless, but I want to know from someone who's actually used it. The main points is how easy it is to move media back and forth between the systems, and what kind of codecs that can be used.
We shoot lots of stuff on P2, edit in FCP, and want to move the exported projects into the K2 for use in a TV news/current affairs studio production. We also want to record programs in the studio onto the K2, and move these recordings on to FCP for further editing. In the past we have used the Turbo for this, but the process has been very clunky, unstable and complex (for our students).
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
cheers
-j-

Not really David, the K2 is essentially their video server storage system and in the context of the question it seems pretty clear our poster is talking about hanging his FCP off that storage for transfer of media to/from his FCP system(s) and/or using it as a SAN for edit in place via iSCSI connection.
Jokke, I work in a K2 SAN environment, and I work with FCP and EDIUS but our K2 system would need an upgrade for us to take full advantage of the latest capabilities, including the GV FCP Connect Plug-in so I'm afraid I can't give you first hand knowledge of the system of the current functionality ... I have researched it somewhat tho, and could probably fill in some blanks for you ...
For example, support formats for edit in place w/ FCP are currently DV (25/50/100), IMX-D10 (30/40/50), XDCAM HD/EX/HD422 (25/35/50) and read only for AVC-I (50/100)
... but I can't tell you as much as the man with the plan regarding FCP/Edius K2 integration. Grass Valley's Regis Andre is the man to contact, he's extremely knowledgeable on the subject, and if you throw him a curve that he can't answer he's quick to dig the info out for you ... for a whole lot more info and contact details of the man in question, check out his (official and) excellent "Editing on K2 San Blog" at http://k2san.blogspot.com/
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Andy

Import Grass Valley Infinity

I'm working on a program with a friend who is shooting with the following:
1. Canon HFS10 – The MTS files are 24Mb/s 1920x1080 video with stereo audio which I believe are AVC files.
2. Grass Valley Infinity – The “raw” file is a JPEG2000 file with 4 channel audio recorded at 100Mb/s.
He was going to load the files on a HD and I was to edit in FCPX. I have been unable to import any of our test files. Any ideas?

Idoubt the Grass Valley files would come into FCPX. You'd want to check with the Grass Valley side and see if you can do an export to another format that's supported- such as ProRes or Uncompressed.
For the AVC footage- you'd need to have the original card structure from the camera in order to ingest. Otherwise, the friend would also need to convert to ProRes, etc. MPEG Streamclip might be up to the task of conversion- http://www.squared5.com/svideo/mpeg-streamclip-mac.html

Grass Valley MXF files imported to Premiere CS3 ?

Does anyone know if you can import Grass Valley MXF files into Premiere CS3, and if not, is there a program I can get that can take the MXF file and convert it into a different file?
Thanks
Josh
(We just upgraded Premiere to the latest upgrades)

I realize that this is very old, but I would like to point out that MXF files can be read/used by Premiere CS5.5... but not all MXF's are created equal. Our Canon MXF's come in just fine, however everything we shoot on our Grass Valley Infinity cameras can not be imported natively. For that we've had to either use Edius to import and convert the files to Premiere friendly files or purchase the Main Concepts MPEG 2 plugin. With that plugin the MXF files can be imported & edited in CS5.5.
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Grass Valley ADVC110 vs Buying another camera

I'm hoping some of you might be able to help me out here. I've always gotten great advice here.
I purchased a Sony DCR-SR80 about a year ago to shoot and edit training videos for my company. Great little camera but a real pain in the butt when it comes to converting video. I've been using MPEG Streamclip viewer to convert to DV and editing in iMovie HD. This whole process takes way too much time from the time you convert, import and then edit as I'm sure most of you know.
I was contemplating just buying a cheap Canon MiniDV ZR960 so that I can shoot directly into iMovie or at least eliminate the conversion process when shooting remotely. Then I saw this Grass Valley A/D converter which is about the same price as the Canon.
Given the choice, would I be better off buying a completely new camera or sticking with my Sony and linking through the Grass Valley?
Does anyone have any thoughts or comments on this?
Thank you in advance for any help or advice anyone can offer!!!!

That's actually a great choice IMO (going with a camcorder that shoots native DV).
A few pointer's:
1. Make certain the camera also shoots 16 bit audio and will not default to 12 bit. If it does default to 12 bit, then consider one that will not.
2. Remember you will need lots of hard drive space when dealing with .dv since it runs about 13 GB's per hour. The i-apps work best with plenty of elbow room on the boot volume. So make sure you have no less than 20 GB's remaining of available HD space (and hopefully you have much more than this).
Pro apps also respond a bit better when you have ample HD space available on the boot volume as well as assigning HD space on a scratch disc or media HD in order to free up the main HD.
3. G4 is a great machine. I use it as well but I did have to add a new CPU upgrade from sonnet to work with beefier apps. Work on your financial adviser since the price to do this modification is a fraction of the cost of a new mac.
You may also want to add more sdram when upgrading. Newer apps will respond much better in this regard.
4. Lastly and perhaps most importantly in your own situation, make absolutely certain the camcorder has what is referred to as "digital pass through" (in both directions).
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Grass Valley gxf and mxf files

Hello,
Just curious if anyone has tried to import any type of media file from a GV K2 server. Seems that FCSvr won't work with it and neither will Compressor. Gxf and mxf are both indusrty standard (SMPTE) exchange wrappers...seems odd that apple doesn't directly support re-wrapping into QT compatible type?
Telestream (and some others) support re-wrapping through additional apps, but more software (and another transcode step) is not an ideal solution for us...

Hi there,
Most of the limitations are imposed by Grass Valley - they have very restrictive file-based transfer options in and out of the K2s and their MOV support is almost unusable in its current state.
We have considerable experience using Final Cut Server to process media to and from Grass Valley K2 servers. We have developed custom software tools that utilize the MXF4Mac Import and Export components to allow media to be re-wrapped from MXF to MOV without transcoding. We have also solve a number of Grass Valley integration issues with audio and MXF compatibility issues.
If you are interested in our solutions please email me at [email protected]
Kind Regards
Tim Benson
www.factorial.co.nz

Multiple FDM Import Formats for One Location

I want to import trial balance data directly from the Oracle Financials database. I'm creating an import integration script to pull the ledgers directly via a SQL statement. My issue is that I also want to be able to write scripts to modify each individual field on the import, similar to a delimited import script where I can have a script for each dimension. Do you know if it's possible to combine import integration and delimited scripts in a single location? I'm guessing it may be a combination of the Import Format and Integration Options settings on the location, but I'm not sure which one should go where. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

This is not possible. Any adjustments to the data would need to be done within the integration script.

FDM Import Format Spec with multiple Amount Fields

Hello,
I'm in the process of setting up an Import specification for one of our sites and the source extract consists of the following fields:
Source Account Description BegBalDR BegBalCr YTDDR YTDCR
01-511-5110     Inventory Adjustment     1,754.00     0     0     14,844.76
I'm am trying to Import Field 5 & 6 and net them if necessary (example: YTDDR - YTDCR) and I continue to get an error. I have tried several diffrent ways but it seems that I can only import one or the other. After reading the FDM Admin guide I am wondering if I need to create a custom Script to accomplish this task.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Thank you,
Tony

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Step 1 -
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Amount, 1, 1, Script=NetAmounts5and6.uss
Step 2 -
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'Hyperion FDM DataPump Import Script:
'Created By:     cbeyer
'Date Created:     2/13/2009 5:57:14 PM
'Purpose:
'Get the last two fields
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Dim x
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tmpRecord = strRecord
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strYTDCR = ""
strYTDDR = ""
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'split out the string into a one dimensional array using the split command; however,
'This would only work best if there is an exact number of spaces between the two numbers
'Since I do not know if this is true, instead i'm looking for numeric/numeric like characters
'and splitting based off of that.
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strCurrentChar = Mid(tmpRecord,x,1)
If (IsNumeric(strCurrentChar) Or strCurrentChar = "$" Or strCurrentChar = "." Or strCurrentChar = "," ) Then
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Import format from VHS tape

I have old family movies on VHS tape that I want to edit on iMovie. What is the best CODEC format to have these tapes converted for use in iMovie?

If I was having a third party do it, I would probably ask them to use the DV codec.
Many of us do this ourselves. I use the EyeTV Hybrid, which convert these to h.264 files. Others use the converters from Grass Valley, which convert to DV.

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What's the preferred import format for iPhoto4 to maintain photo quality? (Is the answer the same for later versions? I assume so.)
Thanks,
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Henry,
Had to do it myself with some old scans from PhotoDeluxe - run them through PhotoShop and save in another format. That text message means the PD file is propietary PD format - requires PD to use.
Your export choice from Photoshop depends on what you plan to use the photo for. iPhoto is by nature a JPEG creature, but will accept and protect files in other formats.
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