Grayscale eps files still generate color plates

Photos and/or graphics saved in eps format, converted to grayscale mode, are still generating color plates when printing to the RIP.
These files are placed into Quark V8 document and then that document is exported as eps to Distiller to create a pdf which is then placed in a Quark V8 document and printed to the RIP.
Using Photoshop CS2 (V9.02). This creates issues as these files are placed on page layouts that have color and grayscale ads so
I need the grayscale elements to only appear on the black plate. Any suggestions?
Right now I am opening the offending eps files up in Photoshop and saving as tif files, this seems to fix it. However, really need to use the eps format.

Photoshop DCS 2 technically is a bastardized version of EPS that was created by Quark to work around the lack of spot channel support for the EPS format.So not all EPS files do or don't support Spots. Older versions of EPS do support passive transparency within Illustrator, but who bothers to pay attention to those things anyways....
The EPS format does support spot color, just not Photoshops version. I think it could support Spots, but I think they intentionally disabeled it for good reasons.Not sure, don't know, don't care.
Dealing with Multichannnel documents may take a few years of your life, but that is your own decision.
Quark wants to see 4 channels in a EPS file. If you create blank CMY channels in a CMYK document - hence having only the grayscale image reside in the black channel, your issues will go away. This works for EPS and DCS 2 files. Yes its a pain workflow.
Your better choice is to change the file format with a droplet.

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