Greater FSB syncho with memory

Some time ago I found a notice, that there is impossible to get FSB syncho with memory more then 180-190MHz on many nForce2 mobo's with DualChannel.
In fact, when I bought my new hardware FSB=182MHz at 6-2-2-2 was MSI K2N7-L limit testing under GoldMem. Even 183-185Mhz with slow timings was generated some errors.
But I found some tips, what can help with this problem:
http://forum.tweak.pl/viewtopic.php?t=27840
Translating above: It helps to mount some radiator on south bridge. I made such passive cooling on my board and sudennly FSB at 195Mhz with 6-2-2-2 timings worked with no errors, and 207 with 7-3-3-2 (I didn't check more).
It seems that such modification sometimes can help because of south bridge ovetheating - I've checked that even with radiator this bridge is quite hot.
MSI K7N2-L BIOS 5.2
Athlon XP 2500+ Barton OC'd to 3200+ (2200MHz 11x200)
Kingston Hyperx PC3000 2x256MB
Spire Falcon Rock II
Creative GF4 TI4200 64MB
Huntkey LW-6400H 400W

The main reason you could not hit 200FSB with that ram is 3000 to run 200FSB in sync without overclocking you need 3200. You were useing aggresive timmings and trying to overclock you ram to much. You relaxed the timmings and got a little farther. Also your ram is not NForce 2 approved ram and has been having lots of problems with other users. Running in sync with 200FSB is not hard to do at all if you have the right ram.
P.S.
i see in your sig that you have MSI K7N2-L BIOS 5.2 I think you mean the K7N2-Delta-L

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Will the 400 FSB work with memory clocked at 333? Or should I use 333 FSB CPU for compatibility with the memory I have?

you must run cpu/fsb ratio at 1.1
so there is no point in a 400 cou unless the ram can do 400 as well
running cpu faster than ram it will run poor and infact be slower

Who gets past 240 FSB and with what BIOS/settings?

I hope that folks at MSI are working hard for a BIOS fix.
I don't understand how some guys are reporting FSBs of higher than 240, but I'm totally stuck there, no matter what I do. BIOS 1.2B5 made no difference at all.
Just you MSI guys make sure that all these are BIOS issues and not hardware related. My CPU has not reached its limit at 240FSB and I want it. Oh, and same goes to AMD for locking the higher multis. If they were not locked, I'd have been just perfectly pleased

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Originally posted by JimLad-
Right here goes, an account of my overclocking thus far with this K8N.
First of all I am aiming for a 2.3-2.4GHz cpu speed, with memory running at 200Mhz or better. This means I have to crank the fsb up to 250 or 260 and use a 9x multiplier, and 6:5 ratios. These are my targets, now onto what I have tried.
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I have been having issues with my memory on the k8n neo platinum board since i built the system last month and i just recently discovered a fact I had overlooked.
I Have discovered that if i test the system while it is cool (having sat turned off overnight for example), then memtest will pass the ram just fine and the system will be stable for a short period of time, generally longer if no intensive applications are used, ie. doom3 vs. websurfing).
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Yes i did mean chipset.
I am using a stock hs/fan from amd, which seems to run a tad hot but, considering that I wont overclock until I can get board stable, its not an issue. (runs 35-40 idle and up to 72 intensive). I need the warranty more then the extra mhz at present.
I removed the stock heatsink from the nvidia chipset and bought a generic chipset cooler (green, very little in the way of fins and seems to be aluminum) with a small fan.
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I am not using it to adjust fans so those arent connected - its just a reference temp I can see at a glance, esp considering the funky bios reading this boards been known to give.
I assume from these responces that even a nvidia 3 250 chipset shouldnt get as hot as mine?
I asked about that from the retailer i bought this from but he seemed to think it was "ok" at 50ish celcius, but then again he didnt look too confident when he said it, lol.
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