Group Asset Class

Hi,
How to define Group Asset Class in Asset Accounting ?

Hi Vickss,
Group assets are used for reporting of Income tax as per IT act .
settings for group assets done in fallowing ways,
a) OAYM - to define the depritiation areas that would be used for group assets .
b) OAAX - where in you decide which all asset class are to be used for group asset functionality .
You create the group asset using the T code AS21 and then assign the same to the depreciation areas or asset classes at the time of creation of the asset through say AS01 .
This Might help u to understand Group Asset.
Regards
Sridhar

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Link-Group Asset Class, Depreciation Area & Depreciation Key

Dear Experts,
I am new to FI-AA Customization & have a basic query about Group Asset Concept.
I am working on Ecc 6.0 & for Country India.
I want to create Group Asset for calculation of Depreciation as per Income Tax Act. Hence there is just one Depreciation Area (for Group Assets) , but the Depreciation keys are different. E.d IN1, IN2 etc. (Country Version India)
Now the questions are :
1) Do we need to create different Asset Class for different Group Assets or to create just 1 Asset Class for all Group Assets.
E.g. I want to calculate Depreciation As per income Tax Act on Gross Block of Building, Furniture & Fixture, Motor Car, Vehicles etc. So I need to create separate Group Asset Class for each one of above or just to create one Group Asset Class.
2) If we need to create just one Asset Class for all Group Assets; how to maintain a Depreciation Key in OAYZ as there are more than 1 Depreciation Keys?
3) is there any other method / functionality to calculate Depreciation as per income Tax Act or Group Asset is the only functionality?
Thanks & Regards,
Reshma

Dear,
Reshma.
Looking at your Questions let us take explanation for Group Assets :-
1 ) We need to create new different asset class for Group Class in OAOA. Then permit the depreciation area for only Group Asset in OAYM as it is in your current scenario India is Depreciation Area 15 Just select your company code in OAYM and check the Grp Asset field for respective area 15. Then go to OAAX here we have to maintain the assets classes particularly for Group Assets. So check your Group Asset classes for Group Assets. Cerate different Group asset classes for your said requirement.
In these depreciation areas, it is then possible to make an assignment to a group asset. You make this assignment in the specifications for the depreciation area in the asset master record. When you post an acquisition to this kind of asset, the system duplicates the line items from this depreciation area on the given group asset.
2 ) According to me you have to create different depreciation keys for Group Asset classes. Assign the Depreciation keys to your newly created Group Asset Classes in OAYZ and make sure you are deactivating 01 area which is Book Depreciation area.
3 ) As far as I know this is the only functionality available to handle Group Assets. How ever SAP does not have any standard Group Assets functionality. SAP does not supply asset classes to be used solely for group assets. It is we have to determine as per varying Business Process.
I hope this will clear your doubt makes you to understand. Please revert back for further clarification. Welcome you.
Regards,
Pankaj A Bhalerao.
Edited by: pankaj_ab on Feb 3, 2010 8:26 AM

Calculation of Depreciation for Group Asset

Hi Experts,
I am getting a problem while doing depreciation for group asset
Ex: 80,000; Rate 10%
total depreiaiton p.a is Rs 8000/-
as per the Indian standards if it is below 180 days it should take Rs 4000/-, but in my system it is showing Rs 3333.33
my depreciation start date & capitlization date is 01.11.2007.
Regards,
Satya Vani.

Dear,
Reshma.
Looking at your Questions let us take explanation for Group Assets :-
1 ) We need to create new different asset class for Group Class in OAOA. Then permit the depreciation area for only Group Asset in OAYM as it is in your current scenario India is Depreciation Area 15 Just select your company code in OAYM and check the Grp Asset field for respective area 15. Then go to OAAX here we have to maintain the assets classes particularly for Group Assets. So check your Group Asset classes for Group Assets. Cerate different Group asset classes for your said requirement.
In these depreciation areas, it is then possible to make an assignment to a group asset. You make this assignment in the specifications for the depreciation area in the asset master record. When you post an acquisition to this kind of asset, the system duplicates the line items from this depreciation area on the given group asset.
2 ) According to me you have to create different depreciation keys for Group Asset classes. Assign the Depreciation keys to your newly created Group Asset Classes in OAYZ and make sure you are deactivating 01 area which is Book Depreciation area.
3 ) As far as I know this is the only functionality available to handle Group Assets. How ever SAP does not have any standard Group Assets functionality. SAP does not supply asset classes to be used solely for group assets. It is we have to determine as per varying Business Process.
I hope this will clear your doubt makes you to understand. Please revert back for further clarification. Welcome you.
Regards,
Pankaj A Bhalerao.
Edited by: pankaj_ab on Feb 3, 2010 8:26 AM

Account assignment for group asset is different from that in asset

Dear experts,
I have creted one main asset . and i have created group asset. and my main asset class and group asset class are both are different.If i continue that error assets are shoud be craeted .but the depreciation key and usefull life and ordinary depreciation will going and it's showing grey.
My question at the time of assighning the group asset for the particular assets the below error is comming.
Account assignment for group asset is different from that in asset
Message no. AA810
Diagnosis
The account allocation 14000 of the group asset 140000001 0 is different from account allocation 1000 of the asset.
System Response
This error needs to be corrected for balance sheet valuation (usually determined in depreciation area 01). For all other depreciation areas, this is only a warning you should check.
Procedure
Check your entry. When an individual asset has a different account assignment than the group asset, it is not possible to reconcile the individual asset to the group asset in reporting by means of accounts.
kindly help on this issue
regards
venkataswamy

Hi sudhakar
Thanks for your reply
1) for example i have buliding asset class and i have one group asset class.under the building asset account determination i have assighned the gl a/c for both b/s and book deprecitaion
In groups asset class also i have done same things. i have craeted asset under building asset class and created one asset under group assets.
then assighned the group asset to main assets. the error is comming like this Account assignment for group asset is different from that in asset
I have serched in sdn forum and service .sap.com . they are saying you can use same gl a/c for both asset class.for depreciation .i have tried this scenario. still i am getting the same error and same problem.
The most important thing is we are working on ECC 6 versions
sap note 76186.
Kindly help me
Regards
venkataswamy
Edited by: venkataswamy bathini on Jul 6, 2009 9:22 AM

Group asset does not manage area 01-Msge no. AA809 in AW01N-Parameter Tab

Hi All,
For my Client in Development Server,
When i select Parameter Tab- in t.c.AW01N.
The below error message is coming for all Asset Classes Assets.
Group asset does not manage area 01
Message no. AA809
Diagnosis
You have specified for the asset that depreciation area 01 is to be managed in group asset . However, depreciation area 01 is not managed on the group asset level.
Procedure
Correct your entry.
I have checked in
1.Specify Depreciation Areas for Group Assets(T.C.OAYM),
For depreciation area 01-Group Asset check box is not selected.
2. Specify Asset Classes for Group Assets(t.c.OAAX).
In this screen for all Asset Classes(except Group Asset Class), check boxes are not selected(for class consists entirely of group assets).
Please any one guide me how to solve this issue.
But there is no this type of error in Production Server.
Thanks in Adv

Hi
there has been a simular problem, this might help you:
This asset has 4 depreciation areas all attatched to Group asset
1665265. But, this group asset has only 3 depreciation areas. When you
would double click on Asset 1665268, you would come across Error Msg
AA809.
Group asset does not manage area 10
Message no. AA809
Blaz

Group Asset Deactivate

Dear All,
We have Implement Group Asset in our SAP ECC 5.0 before 2 year at that time we dont know SAP is not supported group asset related report.
If I want to deactive that group asset class then is there any problem aries or not
Give me solution.....
Regards,
Kaushal Shah

Hi,
you can lock the group asset using T.code AS25 - Group Asset .
T.code - AM05 - Deactivate Asset Class for Chart of Depreciation.
Select u2018Locku2019 next to any asset class that will not be used by your company. This will prevent the asset class from being used when creating assets.
Please let me know if you need more information.
Assign points if useful.
Regards
Sridhar M

Asset Evaluation Group Link to Asset Class

Hi
I have a requirement of Linking Asset Evalaution Group with Asset Class.
For Exapmpe;
Assetc Class is                Vehicle
Evaluation group 1            Light, Heavy Medium
Evaluation Group2             Two, Four,
Etc.
At the time of Master creation, Under allocation Tab, i am getting all evaluation groups, I mean, in 1st Group i have more than 50 entries.
Now the requirement is to get the evaluation group based on the Asset class.
I do understand, evaluation group creation time,. we don't have option to link with Asset Class.
Also, there is an option to default Evaluation group for Classes.
But our requirement is to get filter based on Class, so that at the time of mater data creation, to avoid mistakes..
Can we meet this requirement ??
Thanks in advance
Shinas

Hi Ajay,
Thanks for the response..
You are right, Validation is the only Option.
But i have lots of evaluation group in each category.
I dont think client is going to accept it...
how about AIST0002
Can we do something on this...

Asset Class under Sub Group of assets

Dear All,
In my Client place they are have list of assets. I clasify in Asset classes like
Plant & machinery, Buildings, Land -Asset Classes
In Buildings they have Differenct Factory Building and Office Building which is situated in Factory itself.
These Two buildings having differenct % of Depreciation.
But in one Asset Class- Building They want Create Sub Group of Assets with different depreciation .
It is Possible or Not. If it is possible How can we Create the Sub group of assets Under once Class of Assets. with different Depreciation Value.
Pl Clarify my doubt, if any manual is there porivde for my configeration.
Regards,
girija

hi,
it is possible to run depreciation for main assets and sub assets with deprecition key.
what you need to do is goto the following path
spro - > financial accounting (new) - > asset accounting - > master data -> screen layout - >
now inside screen layout you have options like" define screen layout for asset depreciation areas"
once inside the main screen of it select the scrn layout 2000 and double click on field group rules which you can find on the left side of your screen
here you will be displayed with various options for flagging what is (req) (opt) ( blah blah )
look at depreciation keys against it you shall find flags like ( class ) (MnNo.) ( sbno.) (copy)
in this remove the flag from copy and from MnNo. and flag the Subno.
this way it will not copy the depn key from the main asset and instead it will ask you provide a depreciation key while creating a subasset
and also remove the check assigned to (class) against depreciation area in screen layout 2000
regrds
sayeed
Edited by: sayeed bakhressa on Feb 10, 2009 3:49 PM
Edited by: sayeed bakhressa on Feb 10, 2009 3:51 PM

Linking of Group Asset from Asset class

Dear All,
i have a requirement,
when a user is creating an Asset in the asset master (as01),the Group Asset has to Pick up or Update auomatically in the Group asset field from the Asset class.
How to configure this ,
regards
Man

Hi,
Consider a group asset no 20000 already exists.
Now you are creating an asset in AS01 to which the group asset 20000 is to be assigned.
So you want this group asset no. to be populated automatically while creating a normal asser in AS01.
Please clarify whether my understanding of query is right.
Regards,
Ashutosh M.

Differentiating the asset class for group assets

Hi,
I want to create group assets in AS21. For creating group assets I want to create a seperate asset class. I could not find any option of differentiating the asset class for group assets in transaction OAOA (i.e., Define Asset Class)
How we can identify that an asset class can be used only for group assets and not for individual assets.

<<Plagiarised from http://help.sap.com/saphelp_45b/helpdata/en/4f/71dfff448011d189f00000e81ddfac/content.htm>>
HI
A group asset is represented in the system by a separate master record. The structure of this master record corresponds to the structure of the normal asset master record. You can determine the structure of this master record using screen layout control, just as you do for normal master records. Just the same as a normal asset, a group asset can have any number of sub-numbers. In this way it is possible, for example, to collect all the acquisitions for one year in a single sub-number master record at the level of the group asset.
There is a separate master data transaction for creating group assets (Asset ® Create ® Group asset). This transaction corresponds to the transaction for creating normal assets. However, there are certain special considerations to keep in mind for master data maintenance of group assets:
Group assets can only be deleted when all the assets belonging to them have been marked for deletion.
Group assets can only manage depreciation areas that have been specially marked. You mark them using an indicator in the company code specific specifications for the depreciation area (FI-AA Customizing: Specify depreciation areas for group assets).
Group assets have to be assigned to an asset class, just as normal assets do. You use an indicator in the asset class to specify that the class can be used only for group assets.
Assignment of an Asset to a Group Asset
You can assign an asset to a group asset by specific depreciation areas. For this purpose, there is a special field in the asset master record (in the detail display of each depreciation area). You enter the number of the group asset in this field. Once this entry is made, the system calculates and posts the depreciation for this depreciation area only at the level of the group asset. In this way, you can also assign one asset to different group assets in different depreciation areas.
Regards,
Amit SHinde
Acknowledge If satisfied
Edited by: Matt on Feb 17, 2012 9:34 AM

Evaluation Groups for a Specific Asset class

Hi All,
After creating the new evaluation groups, is there any way out to link those eval goups with the specific asset class. Please let me know if anybody can give more inputs on this.
Thanks and regards,
S.Sumana

Hi Sumana,
Evalaution groups are defined at client level, but not asset class level.
For ex: If you have 4 asset classes. (A, B, C, and D)
There are 4 evaluation group fields are available, so activate Evl Grp field 1 for asset class A in screen layout for asset master data.
And Evl Grp field 2 for asset class B and so on...
While creating evlaution groups, there is a field called NO before evl grp key field. There if you mentain 1, then that evel grp will be available to use in EVl Grp 1 field only.
Ex: 1 ABC Test Evl grp
So you can use ABC evel grp in EVal GRp field 1 only
If you have more asset classes, then you have go with an validation rule in GGB0 in AA master data level.
Thanks,
Srinu

Asset A/c'g- group assets

Dear frds,
Pls explain me the **only Group Asset Configuration - GL A/c's - Asset Creation- ** steps and also the fields what we have to give in the steps. I will assign points to U. Need each & every step & field.pls watch the following and give me.Pls dont give the links.
1.Copy Ref CODor Dep Area.
2. Delete other than Book Depn & Spl Tax dep.
3. Asset Class( A/c det,screen layouts,no range).
4. What GL a/cs should create?
5.Assgning the GL a/c's which fields we have to give.
6.Determine Dep area in Asset class - which check box I have to select.
7.----
8.----
9.----
10.----
11.----
12. AS21- which fields i have to give.
13. wher I have to link the Normal Asset to the group Asset ?
14.----
15.----
Thanks in advance.
Rajan.

follow these steps,
1. copy chart of dep: t.code : fc08
2. delete depriciatin areas
3. assign to company code; oaob
4.specify account determination, create screen layout rules
5.define number ranges; as08
6.define asset class ; oaoa
here you have to give no ranges, account determination for all asset classes.
7. determinine depriciation areas in asset classess; oayz
now you have one idea about your asset configuration. now before further, create your gl accounts for each asset depriciation, gl for asset loss, gl for asset profit on sales.
8. now you have to assign accounts for postings; a090
goto each account determinatin and assgin relavent gl accounts in all cloums
9. specify document type for posting depriciation
10. specify rounding figures of net asst book value/depriciation; oayo
11. define screen layouit for asset master data, depriciation areas, define base methods, multilevel methods etc.,
12.you have to maintain period control methods for dep run and maintain depriciation keys
13. now you should have one asset, so create one asset maser record; t.code as01, post the purchase transation by f-90
14. now you have to run the depriciation by t.code AFAB
GOTHROUGH AL THESE SETTINGS
before that decide abut your asset classes, create gl a/cs and then start from the first step,
regards,

ABAP Dump while creating Group Asset

Hi all
I am getting the following dump while creating Group Asset through AS21-
Runtime Errors         OBJECTS_OBJREF_NOT_ASSIGNED
Except.                CX_SY_REF_IS_INITIAL
Date and Time          19.11.2007 21:16:06
Short text
     Access via 'NULL' object reference not possible.
What happened?
     Error in the ABAP Application Program
The current ABAP program "SAPLGLO_FIAA_SCREENS" had to be terminated because it
has
come across a statement that unfortunately cannot be executed.
Error analysis
An exception occurred that is explained in detail below.
The exception, which is assigned to class 'CX_SY_REF_IS_INITIAL', was not
caught in procedure "SET_MANAGER_FOR_UPDATE" "(FORM)", nor was it propagated by a RAISING clause.
Since the caller of the procedure could not have anticipated that the
exception would occur, the current program is terminated.
The reason for the exception is:
You attempted to use a 'NULL' object reference (points to 'nothing')
access a component (variable: "GO_ASSET_MAINDATA").
An object reference must point to an object (an instance of a class)
before it can be used to access components.
Either the reference was never set or it was set to 'NULL' using the
CLEAR statement.
Source Code Extract
Line SourceCde
545 *      -->P_LS_WORK text
546 *      <--P_LO_ASSET_MANAGER text
547 *      <--P_LO_TIMEDPNDNT_MANGER text
548 *----
549 FORM set_manager_for_update
550        USING
551          is_work TYPE raist03
552        CHANGING
553          co_asset_manager    LIKE go_asset_manager
554          co_timedpndt_manger LIKE go_timedpndt_manager
555          ct_err_msg          TYPE tt_err_msg.
556
557   DATA:
558     ls_asset_maindata TYPE gty_s_asset_maindata,
559     ls_anla_key       TYPE anla_key,
560     ls_err_msg        LIKE LINE OF ct_err_msg.
561
562 * check operation
563   IF is_work-kz      EQ con_ins AND
564      is_work-flg_unr NE on.
565
566     MOVE-CORRESPONDING is_work TO ls_anla_key.
567     ls_anla_key-mandt = sy-mandt.
568     ls_anla_key-anln1 = is_work-anln1_new.
569 * start of Note # 954513
570     IF ls_anla_key-anln1 IS INITIAL.
571       ls_anla_key-anln1 = is_work-anln1.
572     ENDIF.
573 * end of Note # 954513
>>>>>     ls_asset_maindata = go_asset_maindata->get( ).
576
577 * clone time-independent asset data manager
578     TRY.
579         co_asset_manager = lcl_amd_mngr_clone_factory=>clone_asset_manager( ls_anla_key ).
580
581       CATCH cx_faa_asset.
Any1 has a clue where I might be going wrong?
Cheers
Hrishi

Hello Hrishi
I have researched your issue and note 1063792 should resolve it. The
SAP_APPL that it is included in is SAPKH60011. I recommend you to upgrade to the latest support package available to avoid eventual errors.
For program errors you should open a support ticket in the SAP Service Market place.
Regards
Javier

Transfer assets from one asset class to another having different depreciation keys.

Hi Gurus,
     I am a noob in FICO, and I am facing a problem while transferring assets from one asset class to another.
Below is the scenario.
I created two assets 100000000000-0 under asset class 4690a and 200000000000-0 under asset class 4690b. And I am trying to transfer the
asset from class 4690b to 4690a by selecting the option ‘New Asset’ in the transaction ABUMN. While doing this, I am receiving an error message as below.
'Posting with trans. type 300 not possible (No acquisition posted).'
     Message No. AA324.
Diagnosis:
     Transaction type 300 belongs to a transaction type group, which can only be used to post to assets to which posting has already been performed. However, no postings have been made to this asset.
Procedure:
     Use a transaction type from a transactio type group, which can be used for the first acquisition to an asset.
The error is related to the transaction type which I hadn’t explicitly created anywhere. But, when checked in transaction AO76, the transaction type 300 belongs to the transaction type group 30. In this group I am not able to find any solution related to the error.
Moreover, in some of the threads in SCN, I read that modifying the transaction type group might lead to something fatal.
Kindly help me in the below.
1. What exactly the error message is related with?
2. Is there any other method to transfer the asset to another class?
Please let me know if any further details are required regarding the scenario.

Hi ,
I understand that you want to transfer the old asset to new asset with different asset class with different depreciation keys and the old asset is not yet capitalized and does not have any Asset Values.
Assuming that since the First Asset is not yet capitalized, that seems to be that its just that ASset Master is created and no Asset Values appear in the Asset.(in other words no acquisition, capitalization, no dep. start etc.)..
Alternatively this asset can be advised to be blocked and flagged for deletion and create a new Asset in the new Asset Class and then capitalize the new asset by doing the acquisition according to the business process i.e. either via PO based process(GR) or Non PO based process.
The transfer of asset is required incase the old asset still have the values and you are transferring the old asset to new one with the left over values.
Also would request you to kindly share some screenshots of the AW01n of the old asset and screenshots of the AS03 to have more idea on it and provide a better solution to the same..
Warm Regards,
Vineet

Config of Group assets - Tax Depreciation Calculation : India

Dear Seniors,
can you please explain the configuration of the Group assets and how exactly the tax depreciation calculation in India happens for the individual assets with scheme of entries.
Thanks and Regards
Sathish

Hi,
In India, depreciation on assets for the purpose of computation of net income as per the Income Tax (IT) Act 1961 is calculated over a block of assets instead of individual assets as allowed under the Companies Act 1956. Asset acquisitions and retirements are managed over the block level. The IT Act prescribes certain rates of depreciation to be used under the Written down Value (WDV) method over these asset blocks to compute depreciation.
The following are the customization settings that may be followed in the R/3 system in order to manage your assets in the income tax depreciation area.
1. Copy the standard chart of depreciation 0IN as provided by SAP and create your own chart of depreciation.
2. Use the depreciation area 15 for the purpose of management of assets under the IT Act. Make it statistical in nature. (Reference Transaction Code: OADB). Do not check the box negative net book value.
3. Specify that the Income Tax depreciation area takes over the APC from the book but not make it identical (Reference Transaction Code: OABC).
4. Create an asset class for the purpose of income tax blocks. This asset class will be used to create only group assets. (Reference Transaction Code: OAOA)
5. Specify that the depreciation area for income tax can be managed only for group assets. (Reference Transaction Code: OAYM). This would mean that depreciation for this depreciation area would be computed only at group asset level.
6. Specify that the asset class defined in (b) above will be used for creating group assets only. (Reference Transaction Code: OAAX)
7. Two period control methods (IT and NL) have been defined in the system for determination of start or the end of depreciation calculation at the time of a fixed asset acquisition or retirement. You may use these period control methods while creating the depreciation keys for the purpose of IT depreciation.
Calendar assignments have been made for the above mentioned period control methods in order to reflect valuation requirements as per the Income Tax Act (Transaction Code: OAVH). You may create your own period control methods depending on the fiscal year variant you use. The period control methods supplied are based on the fiscal year variant V3.
8. Depreciation Keys: The following depreciation keys have been created in the system. They correspond to the income tax blocks that are prescribed under Indian tax laws. They are as below:
Depreciation Keys:
1. IN1 - Tax Depreciation - 5% -
I Hope it will give you some basic guidance.
Regards,
Krishna Kishore

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