Group asset retirement

Dear Experts,
I want to retire partially and fully a group asset. I customized a transaction type to retire only that depreciation area (15), but SAP tells me that posting with transaction type not allowed. Does anyone know how to go about retiring that group asset?
Thank you!
Regards.

Hi,
As per my knowledge Group Asset is for Indentificatin of the similar assets in that group. When we are acquistion, posting retairment will happens only at asset level only. So please do at individual asset level.
please correct me if i am worng.
regards,
Gopi.P

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Unable to retire group asset

Hi Experts,
I am having problem with group asset retirement. Differences exist between the individual asset and group asset. Although my individual asset NBV is all zero, the group asset still has some value. How should i configure so that whenever my individual asset is zero, the group asset is also zero (so that I can retire the asset completely)
Truely appreciate some advise. Thanks.

Hi
Firstly it is important you refer the note 371534 for information.
The correction code is obvioulsy in your system already.
Please check you run a fiscal year change (RAJAWE00) to year 2009.
Check : transaction code OAAQ and see what is the closed fiscal year?
(If issue pending, please. check Asset Capitalization date in this case)
FYI,
Please double check the following data whether these correspond
to the valid values via SE16 :-
1. T093B > Closed Year
2. T093C > Transfer date
3. T093C > Current Fiscal Year
With regards to the above, you will have to ensure that the
T093B > Closed Year is in line with T093C > Transfer date and
T093C > Current Fiscal Year is later than T093C > Transfer date.
Blaz
Edited by: Nathan Genez on Jun 9, 2010 8:18 AM

Group Asset Partial Retirement

Dear All,
I am using Group Assets and I would like to partially retire an asset attached to the group asset. The issue is that SAP is making a positive adjustment on the current year depreciation, and only this year's depreciation is incorrect. All the following years depreciate correctly, according to the newly calculated NBV. Does anyone know if there's something in Customizing that I can adjust or will my users have to manually re-adjust this?
Thank you!
Regards,
E.

Hi Sharif,
I think system is correctly posting to loss/gain account to the externt sales value and net book value difference. It should not go to asset logically, don't you think so? Why do you think it should go to asset?
I hope this clarifies your doubts.
Thanks!!!
Murlidhar Khatri

Error while Asset retirement by scrapping.

Hi ,
We are getting following error while doing asset retirement by scrapping using transaction ABAVN.
"Transaction in area 10 contradicts the net book value rule." Message no. AA660.
Following are the asset values.
Area 01   : Acq. value 64578.00, Ord depre 12806.92 , Net book value: 51771.08.
Area 10   : Acq. value 64578.00, Ord depre 29970.80, Net book value: 34607.20.
Pl. help
Shripad

Hi,
when trying to retire an asset linked to a group asset, please carefully check the values on your group asset.
Sometimes the error occurs if a dep. area is assigned to a group asset and the transactions on this area amount to zero.
May I invite you to review below notes also. You may find, that certain constellations with your situation could
be valid, too.
136634 AA660 Credit memo in subsequent year
32901 General information on the memo value
14028 Error message AA660 or 632 during retirement/transfer
141656 Negative net book value, neg. APC, below zero depreciation
327088 Definition of the delivered transfer variants
regards Bernhard

Asset retirement - Error - AA416 & AA324

Dear All,
I am getting following error while doing asset retirement through t-code F-92.
My legacy transfer date is 31.03.2009
I am retiring last year legacy asset.
For few of the asset class I am getting this error. For few of the asset I am not getting this error.
*Following is the Error 1 detail:*
Retirement of old assets data not possible (No existing old assets data)
Message no. AA416
Diagnosis
You have tried to post an retirement based on amount, using a transaction type which refers to old assets data (acquisitions from previous years).
However, the sum of the APC at the start of the fiscal year and the transactions, related to the past, equals 0.
Procedure
Check the transaction type entered and the asset.
_Following is the Error 2 detail:_
For few of the asset while retiring I am getting the following error. I also try with transaction type 260. But the same error I am getting.
Posting with trans.type 210 not possible (No acquisition posted)
Message no. AA324
Diagnosis
Transaction type 210 belongs to a transaction type group, which can only be used to post to assets to which posting has already been performed. However, no postings have been made to this asset.
Procedure
Use a transaction type from a transaction type group, which can be used for the first acquisition to an asset.
Regards,
nms

Dear Phaneendra,
Thanks.
Even I tired with 260 transaction type, but I am not able to retire the asset.
Retirement of new acquisition not possible (Transaction total = 0)
Message no. AA417
Diagnosis
You have tried to post retirement of current acquisitions, although the sum of the transactions for the current fiscal year is zero.
Procedure
Check the transaction type entered and the asset.
Regards,
nms

Asset Retirement

Hi Gurus
I am Getting A Problem While POsting Asset Retirement, As it Is giving the Error While GiVing The Fixed Asset Gl As Follwing
Rules for posting key 50 and acct 3520500 set incorrectly for "XAABG" field
Message no. F5272
Diagnosis
One of the rules specifies that the field demands a required entry, the other rule says that the field is to be suppressed.
Procedure
Correct one of the two rules for the field selection.
You find the field status group in the G/L account master record:
Execute function
You can find the rules for the field status group in the Financial Accounting Implementation Guide in the activity Maintain field status variants.
You can find the posting key in the Financial Accounting Implementation Guide in the activity
Define posting key.
I had Checked the FSG And The Posting Key But I am Unable To Solve The Error Plz Help
I had Changed the Field Status Of asset Retirement Field As required
If It Is The Mistake I had Removed it , Where As I am Not Getting the Field retieremnt In the Sale Of Fixed Asset Screen
Regards
Prasanna
Edited by: prasanna raj on Oct 13, 2008 8:02 AM

When we go for posting a retirement of asset with revenue, 2 sets of process takes place.
                                                                             Loss                         Profit
a.    01    Customer                  Dr                            5000                        15000
       50    Revenue                    Cr                           (5000)                      (15000)
b.     75   Asset                         Cr.                        (35000)                      (35000)
        70   Accumulated Dep.       Dr.                        27000                        27000
        40   Revenue                      Dr.                         5000                         15000
        50   Profit                           Cr.                                                         (7000)
        40   Loss                           Dr.                         3000
We add both the options a & b, exactly the same result we get for Asset Retirement with revenue

Config of Group assets - Tax Depreciation Calculation : India

Dear Seniors,
can you please explain the configuration of the Group assets and how exactly the tax depreciation calculation in India happens for the individual assets with scheme of entries.
Thanks and Regards
Sathish

Hi,
In India, depreciation on assets for the purpose of computation of net income as per the Income Tax (IT) Act 1961 is calculated over a block of assets instead of individual assets as allowed under the Companies Act 1956. Asset acquisitions and retirements are managed over the block level. The IT Act prescribes certain rates of depreciation to be used under the Written down Value (WDV) method over these asset blocks to compute depreciation.
The following are the customization settings that may be followed in the R/3 system in order to manage your assets in the income tax depreciation area.
1. Copy the standard chart of depreciation 0IN as provided by SAP and create your own chart of depreciation.
2. Use the depreciation area 15 for the purpose of management of assets under the IT Act. Make it statistical in nature. (Reference Transaction Code: OADB). Do not check the box negative net book value.
3. Specify that the Income Tax depreciation area takes over the APC from the book but not make it identical (Reference Transaction Code: OABC).
4. Create an asset class for the purpose of income tax blocks. This asset class will be used to create only group assets. (Reference Transaction Code: OAOA)
5. Specify that the depreciation area for income tax can be managed only for group assets. (Reference Transaction Code: OAYM). This would mean that depreciation for this depreciation area would be computed only at group asset level.
6. Specify that the asset class defined in (b) above will be used for creating group assets only. (Reference Transaction Code: OAAX)
7. Two period control methods (IT and NL) have been defined in the system for determination of start or the end of depreciation calculation at the time of a fixed asset acquisition or retirement. You may use these period control methods while creating the depreciation keys for the purpose of IT depreciation.
Calendar assignments have been made for the above mentioned period control methods in order to reflect valuation requirements as per the Income Tax Act (Transaction Code: OAVH). You may create your own period control methods depending on the fiscal year variant you use. The period control methods supplied are based on the fiscal year variant V3.
8. Depreciation Keys: The following depreciation keys have been created in the system. They correspond to the income tax blocks that are prescribed under Indian tax laws. They are as below:
Depreciation Keys:
1. IN1 - Tax Depreciation - 5% -
I Hope it will give you some basic guidance.
Regards,
Krishna Kishore

Asset Retirement (Legacy assets) high priority

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Dear Friends,
I am doing retirement for Legacy assets using F-92 transaction code .i selected transaction type 210 . it is giving following error
Retirement of old assets data not possible (No existing old assets data) for some asset class assets
and some asset class assets i am getting following error
Posting with trans.type 210 not possible (No acquisition posted) but values are there in legacy asset(take over values tab)
why some asset class assets are getting Retirement of old assets data not possible and some asset class assets are getting No acquisition posted
for normal assets created using AS01 no error is coming
some Legacy asset class assets retirement happening fine
plz suggest which transaction type has to use for legacy assets or need to create separate transaction type for legacy assets
we are using group asset concept
errors are
Retirement of old assets data not possible (No existing old assets data)
Message no. AA416
Diagnosis
You have tried to post an retirement based on amount, using a transaction type which refers to old assets data (acquisitions from previous years).
However, the sum of the APC at the start of the fiscal year and the transactions, related to the past, equals 0.
Procedure
Check the transaction type entered and the asset.
Posting with trans.type 210 not possible (No acquisition posted)
Message no. AA324
Diagnosis
Transaction type 210 belongs to a transaction type group, which can only be used to post to assets to which posting has already been performed. However, no postings have been made to this asset.
Procedure
Use a transaction type from a transaction type group, which can be used for the first acquisition to an asset.
Regards
Govind
Edited by: Govind Yadav on Jul 8, 2008 10:24 PM
Edited by: Govind Yadav on Jul 8, 2008 10:26 PM
Edited by: Govind Yadav on Jul 8, 2008 10:27 PM

Hi,
If you are doing upload of legacy assets each year wise, then you have to AJRW for every year.
Another way-- you can set your legacy asset takeover date as same as your last closed FY end date, by keeping this date as takeover date you may not be able to run any asset balances report with a report date, which is prior to your takeover date.
For ex: if your takeover date is 31.03.2009, then you cannot run balances report with a report date <31.03.2009
For dep rate changes issue----
You have create your legacy asset with a dep key, which should have the rate of dep from takeover date only.
Whatever depreciation rate changes happend before takeover cannot be maintained in the asset master, since SAP will not calculates dep prior to takeover date. Since system will calculates dep from 01.04.2009 (according to example date) with the rate, which is appilicable from 01.04.2009 only.
What you have to do is, you need to create your dep key with currenct dep rate only and maintain the same in your legacy asset. So while creating through AS91, you need to maintain the APC value (original purchase price) Accum dep ( this amount might have derived from various dep rate calculations outside system till takeover).
Thanks,
Srinu

Fld selectn for mvmt type 543 / acct 6190030 differs for Asset retirement

Dear All,
I create a Subcontracting PO and issue goods to vender against that PO.
Suppose i issue two materials with Qty 50 Each to vender.
again Vender gave me back 10 Qty each becoze there is only 40 Qty is ussed for that material in subcontracting Scnerio.
i take back that material to my inventory with movement type 542 against Sub PO.
but again when i go to MIGO, then there is two problems
1) System still show me BOM of 50 each but vender gave me back 10 each Qty.
and i change that manually 40 Qty for Each.
2) while Posting MIGO, system gave me this error
Fld selectn for mvmt type 543 / acct 6190030 differs for Asset retirement (016)
please help me and give me direction if i have done any thing wrong.
Regards,
Pardeep malik

Hi,
Check the field status group in the create/bank/interest TAB of G/L Account 6190030
in T.code: FS00.
Also Use T.code: SE38 , Enter Program RM07CUFA
Enter the Movement type 543 & enter G/L account 6190030
Enter the company code
Click on execute
& update & save.
Now try ur transaction.
Regards,
Biju K

Fld selectn for mvmt type 543 / acct 41301100 differs for Asset retirement

Hi all!
While i am doing GR for a sub-contracting PO i am getting an error as below,
"Fld selectn for mvmt type 543 / acct 41301100 differs for Asset retirement".
What is the reason for this. I followed the proceed in performance asistant but held up there..
How to solve this error.
Thx in advance,
Raj.

Hi, Check the field selection in SA38, RM07CUFA and enter the mov and G/l account you can found red mark indication where gl account field status vary with MM field status.
change as per your requirement.
Enter the Movemnt type 543 & enter G/L account 41301100 Enter the compnay code
Click on execute
Click on the Column of G/L account for Asset requirement
Anothe rsecreen with Field Status Group overview will be displayed.
Click on Additional account assignments
Change the filed Selection of Asset requirement from mandatory to Optional & save.
Thanks & Regards,
Kiran

Group Asset deactivating

Hi Gurus!
Can anyone please tell me why the Group Asset IT........ gets deactivate while retiring the a single asset. Group Asset IT......... is assigned in Depreciation Area 15 . But still Group asset gets deactivated in background while processing. Why?. Is there any logic or funda behind this? But after complete retirement also, there is some amount present in book depreciation area NBV. Why?

This issue is solved.

Group Asset De-activate Isssue -URGENT

HI,
We have configured tax depreciation.
1.for this we created one Group Asset- 10000
2.And we assgined this group asset to main assets-20000-20001-20002.
3.after some some we post retirement for asset 20000.
4.The problem is group asset is de-activating while retire the main asset - 20000.
5.So how to solve this issue?what is the solution for group asset activation?
please suggest,points will be rewarded
Thanks
Kishore

Hi,
I have One group asset which was assigned to 5 main assets.One of the main asset was retired.after some time we created one more asset and assinged to Group Asset.while posting to that new asset it is saying group asset is de-activated.in that case if we delete the de-activation date manually in AS22,it is accepting the postings.So how to solvee this issue without removing the date manually from AS22?
Thanks
Sap Guru

Please elaborate me the mechanism of Asset Retirement

Hi,
Please elaborate me the mechanism of Asset Retirement
Thanks

Hi,
Please go thru the following document if it is helpful.
Asset Retirement:
Purpose
Asset retirement is the removal of an asset or part of an asset from the asset portfolio. This removal of an asset (or part of an asset) is posted from a bookkeeping perspective as an asset retirement. Depending on organizational considerations, or the business transaction which leads to the retirement, you can distinguish the following types of retirement:
An asset is sold, resulting in revenue being earned. The sale is posted with a customer.
An asset is sold, resulting in revenue being earned. The sale is posted against a clearing account.
An asset has to be scrapped, with no revenue earned.
An asset is sold to an affiliated company (refer to Manual Posting of Intercompany Asset Transfer/Retirement)
Process Flow
There are transactions and transaction types in the system for these different retirement types.
Asset Retirement
Asset Sale with Customer
The system enables you to post the entry to Accounts Receivable, the revenue posting and the asset retirement in one step. In this posting transaction, you have to post the revenue (debit A/R, credit revenue from asset sale) first, and then post the asset retirement. An indicator in the posting transaction specifies that the system posts the asset retirement after the revenue posting.
The prerequisite for this is that the sales revenue account in Financial Accounting, to which the revenue should be posted, has a field status variant in its master data in which the Asset retirement field (category Asset Accounting) is defined as a required or optional entry field. You define the field status variant in Customizing for Financial Accounting (Financial Accounting Global Settings ® Document ® Line Item ® Controls).
Posting of Gain or Loss
When you use the standard transaction types, the system automatically creates a gain posting or a loss posting, as well as a revenue clearing entry, in addition to the asset and accumulated depreciation correction postings. This gain/loss posting, as well as the revenue posting, are not dependent on the transaction type. The automatic creation of these postings is controlled by the Gain/loss from retirement indicator in the definition of the transaction type. You can also choose not to set this indicator, in which case you have to enter the postings manually.
In an exceptional situation, an integrated asset retirement with revenue can also be posted although the asset does not have APC in the master depreciation area.
For more information on ways of posting gain and loss, see Posting Gain/Loss.
Retirement Without Revenue
A retirement without revenue is the removal of an asset from the asset portfolio without any revenue, for example, by scrapping. When you use this posting option, the system does not create revenue and gain/loss postings. Instead it creates a Loss from an asset retirement without revenue posting in the amount of the net book value being retired.
Complete/Partial Retirement
An asset retirement can refer to an entire fixed asset (complete retirement) or part of a fixed asset (partial retirement). In both cases, the system automatically determines, using the asset retirement dates entered, the amounts to be charged off for each depreciation area. You can initiate the partial retirement of a fixed asset by entering one of the following:
The amount of the acquisition and production costs being retired
A percentage rate
A quantity
When you enter the amount of APC that is being retired, the system determines the percentage to be retired from the asset using the first depreciation area in which posting is to take place. It determines the percentage amount of APC being retired in that area, and uses the same percentage for other areas. You can enter a quantity, provided that you have not specified a retirement amount or percentage rate. The system interprets the quantity as a ratio to the total quantity of the asset and thereby determines the asset retirement percentage rate. If necessary, you can also manually correct the retirement amounts that were calculated by the system in individual depreciation areas. The system then recalculates the retirement amounts for that area, and any areas that are dependent on that area.
The asset value date of the retirement is recorded in the asset master record. You cannot post any transactions with a value date before the value date of the last retirement. If you nevertheless need to post such a transaction, you must first reverse all retirements that lie after the value date of the belated posting. After posting the belated transaction, you can then re-post the retirements.
Transaction Type (Prior-Year Acquisitions/Current-Year Acquisitions)
Make sure that you select the correct transaction type for both partial and complete retirement. For the complete retirement of a fixed asset acquired in previous years, always select a transaction type intended for prior-year acquisitions. A partial retirement can always relate either to prior-year acquisitions or to current-year acquisitions.
The complete retirement of a fixed asset is only possible if all transactions to the asset were posted with a value date before the asset value date of asset retirement. You must clear or reverse down payments and investment support measures, which are in the same posting year as the retirement, before you post the complete retirement.
Prior-year asset acquisitions and current-year acquisitions are shown separately from one another in the document.
Proportional Value Adjustments
Based on the value date and period control, the system automatically determines the reference period for the retirement. The system automatically determines any depreciation (value adjustments) that is applicable to the part of the asset being retired, up to the reference period (retirement). The system automatically retires this depreciation at the time of the retirement transaction. This procedure guarantees that the percentage of the book value that is retired is identical with the percentage of the acquisition and production costs that is retired.
Graphic: Determining Proportional Value Adjustments
The system automatically posts the proportional value adjustments retired during an asset retirement. You can specify special transaction types for this automatic posting. You enter these transaction types in the Customizing definition of the retirement or transfer transaction types (Value adjustments function). These special transaction types for the proportional value adjustments are particularly important for group consolidations, so that the individual transaction can be identified as retirement of transfer.
The standard transaction types delivered by SAP are already defined in this way. The system uses the transaction type 290 for proportional values with retirements. For transfers it uses transaction types 390/395 (transfer retirement/acquisition).
Retirement of Low Value Assets
There are special considerations for the retirement of low value assets (LVAs). It is usually necessary to simplify the business transactions involved, due to the large number of assets that are being retired. It is not necessary to actually post the retirement of low value assets in order for the assets transactions to be displayed correctly in the asset history sheet. It is possible to simulate the retirements of low value assets during a time period you specify. Enter the LVA asset classes and the simulation time period in the initial screen of the asset history sheet (see Asset History Sheet).
If you want to actually post the retirement of low value assets, use the usual procedure for asset retirements.
Retiring Several Asset Subnumbers Simultaneously
The system enables you to post the complete retirement of several subnumbers of a fixed asset in one step (generic entry using an asterisk (*) in the subnumber field). The system performs asset postings and value adjustment postings for each sub-number.
Sales revenue is proportionally allocated to the individual sub-numbers according to their acquisition value (including revaluation).
Retirement of Assets with Investment Support
For information on the special concerns involved when retiring assets with investment support, see Investment Support on the Liabilities Side and Investment Support Managed on the Assets Side .
Retirement Costs
It is possible to enter the costs of the retirement (for example, removal costs) for statistical purposes during the retirement posting. The standard report for asset retirements (Information System) then displays these costs in a special field. Note that gain/loss and retirement costs are shown separately in the report. In addition, the retirement costs are not automatically transferred to cost accounting.
Mass Retirement
When an enterprise sells a large portion of its fixed assets (such as a plant or a building), it is necessary to post the retirement of all the individual assets which make up the whole. Since the number of affected assets can be very large, the Asset Accounting (FI-AA) component makes it possible to make the necessary postings using mass processing. For more information, see Mass Retirement.
Thanks,
Prithwiraj.

Report on Asset retirement

Dear all,
I need a report on Asset Retirement which display the customer number and his description ( the one who bought the asset).
I used the report S_ALR_87100623 to manage the retirement and i didn't found an option to display the customer number & description.
Is there any solution or other transaction (report) to get it ?
Thank you in advance.

Hello,
I tried already this report. But there is no information about the customer who baught the asset.
Any other solution ?
Edited by: Alexis.TN on Oct 12, 2009 12:44 PM

How to get loss from asset retirement..in asset acounting report

Hi in my asset acounting report i have to show Loss from asset retirement . in structure ANEPV the field is MINERL. in the standard report they are using logical dtaabse ADA and node ANEPV(report RAABGA_ALV01) . i don't want to include the node in my report.Is there any FM showing the loss value or any other way to show this value .
THANKS in advance...

Hi in my asset acounting report i have to show Loss from asset retirement . in structure ANEPV the field is MINERL. in the standard report they are using logical dtaabse ADA and node ANEPV(report RAABGA_ALV01) . i don't want to include the node in my report.Is there any FM showing the loss value or any other way to show this value .
THANKS in advance...

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