Group audio files in BIN

WHen I grouping some files in audio bin LP8 sometimes change file location.
for exmpl: if location is macintosh hd/superproject/audio files
when I group tracks to group 1 location now is macintosh hd/superproject/audio files/1
And logic can't find this files whenm i reload song.
Can I turn off this?

Hi Sergey.
I think the whole bin stuff is very buggy so far. The problem you mentioned ist "sometimes" change file location. If you make a group with audio files in the bin window Logic should always copy them into a new folder on the harddrive. They are moved by saving the song (before that they are only shown in the bin window as a group). After that Logic should find them. But sometimes it is not saved in the finder into the right folder, sometimes they are even in the bin window throwed back into the normal audio-folder.
So - I hope Logic is gonna have a update on this soon!
Regards,
Xcell

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