Grouping Anchored Objects

I have an anchored graphic image (using Object, Anchored Object, Insert) and need to add a text box under the graphic and a rectangle frame with a stroke on top of the image to highlight a portion of the image.
What I would love to do is anchor the graphic image and then group the text box and graphic rectangle to the anchored graphic and have all move together. NO LUCK, I guess you cannot select and group multiple objects if one of them is an anchored object.
The work arounds are
1) Anchor EACH of the three objects which works fine but takes a long time.
2) Group the objects and paste them "inline"
3) Group the objects and manually move them when your text moves.
Is there any way to group, attach or link objects to an anchored object so all of them move with the anchored object?
Have InDesign 3 and 2 (same results)

Right clicking on the anchored graphic and using the "Paste Into" option to paste the three grouped objects worked wonderfully. Thank you so much.

Similar Messages

IndDesign CS2 Anchored objects issue

I am working on a 400 pg yearbook-like doc. I've got pictures with captions(grouped with paragraph and object styles)that need to stay with the text where I insert them. As I work though the pages inserting objects, they appear to adjust prior page layouts. The pages are set up with two columns of text and the text is set up to flow through all the pages of the document. Some of the grouped anchored objects span the entire width of the text box/column. There are also grouped anchored objects that only take up half the column width that don't seem to have the same affect on other pages as the ones that take up the entire column width. The grouped objects that do take up the whole column all go into their text listings at the same spot-at the end of a listing. Does anyone know what I am doing wrong or why these objects would affect prior pages and how I can stop them from doing that?

Not sure what you mean by affect. If it's just a couple of lines turning differently on the previous page I would put it down to the Adobe Paragraph composer. Try changing the affected paragraph to Single Line Composer in the Justification dialog and see if that stops it?

Group move to an anchor object?

Hi All,
I want to fix the Group object into Anchored Object without using the cut, paste method. Is there any easy way to do this?
Thanks in Advance for any helps.
Regards,
Nagaraj

In a InDesign document have the Figure with caption group object, table with title group object. I just want to place the group objects in after the Figure/Table citation places in an Anchored format.
Laubender wrote:
@Nagaraj – is InDesign Server involved in your case?
Using InDesgin CS5.5 desktop version.
Thanks to both of you comments.
I try the IDML options suggested by Laubender.

RE: Named anchored objects

Albert,
In my case I was using a named anchored object to get a handle to an actual
service object. My named object that I registered in the name service was
an intermediary to which I did not maintain a connection. So I have not
explicitly tested what you are asking.
However, I too was not using a hard coded reference to the SO, and fail over
and load balancing worked fine. The functions of fail over and load
balancing are not done by the service object but by the name service, proxy
and router. Since you are getting a proxy back any time you do a lookup in
the name service I would think that fail over should work with any anchored
object that is registered in the name service. When you do a RegisterObject
call you will notice that one of the arguments is the session duration,
which implies to me that fail over will be handled the same as for service
objects.
Load balancing adds another wrinkle. Load balancing is handled by a router.
You must get a proxy to the router and not a proxy to an instance of the
object that the router is doing the load balancing for. In the latter
scenario you will be bypassing the router. If you are creating, anchoring
and registering your objects dynamically you will not have a router so you
will not be able to load balance! This applies even if the objects are
instantiated within partitions that are load balanced because you will still
be getting proxies back to a particular instance of the anchored objects.
There are ways to accomplish load balancing between objects that you
register yourself. However, the best solution will vary depending on the
actual problem trying to be solved. If you would like to discuss this
further, include a little more detail about the scenario you need to
implement and I will give you what I know.
BTY what I have outlined above also applies to getting references via a
system agent.
Sean
Cornice Consulting, Inc.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[<a href="mailto:[email protected]">mailto:[email protected]]On</a> Behalf Of Albert Dijk
Sent: Friday, July 03, 1998 11:01 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject:
Alex, David, Jez, Sean,...
My question about both solutions (using Nameservice and agents) is:
If I reach a remote service object using either a BindObject or an agent, do
fail-over and load-balancing work the same way as they normally do when
using a hard coded reference to the SO.
Albert Dijk
From: Sean Brown[SMTP:[email protected]]
Reply To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 1998 6:55 AM
To: Ananiev, Alex; [email protected]
Subject: RE: multiple named objects with the same name and
interface
Alexander,
I can not comment on the speed difference because I never tested it.
But, I
will say that we looked at the agent solution at a client sight
before. I
will give the same warning I gave them. If you go the agent direction
you
are now using agents for a purpose that they were not intended. Even
though
it technically works, as soon as you start using a piece of
functionality in
a way the developer did not intend it to be used you run the risk of
forward
compatibility problems. By this I mean, since agents were not
originally
intended to be used to look up service / anchored object references,
it may
not work in the future because it is not likely to be given
consideration in
any future design.
As we all know, programmers are always stretching the bounds of the
tools
they use and you may have a good reason (i.e. performance). I just
wanted to
let you know the possible risk.
One final note on a limitation of using system agents to obtain
references
to anchored objects. You can not access agents across environments.
So, if
you have connected environments and need to get references to services
in
another environment for fail-over or whatever, you will not be able to
do it
with agents.
Just some thoughts!
Sean
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[<a href="mailto:[email protected]]On">mailto:[email protected]]On</a> Behalf Of Ananiev, Alex
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 1998 12:14 PM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: multiple named objects with the same name and interface
David,
The problem with dynamic binding is that in this case you have to keep
the reference to the service object somewhere. You don't want to call
"bindObject" every time you need to use this service object, "bind" is
a
time-consuming operation, even on the same partition. Keeping
reference
could be undesirable if your object could be moved across partitions
(e.g. business object).
The alternative solution is to use agents. You can create custom
agent,
make it a subagent of an active partition agent and use it as a
placeholder for whatever service you need. "FindSubAgent" works much
faster than "bindObject", we verified that and agent is "user-visible"
by its nature.
Alexander
From: "Sean Brown" <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:12:55 -0500
Subject: RE: multiple named objects with the same name and interface
David,
I actually determined it through testing. In my case I did not want
this to
happen and was trying to determine why it was happing. It makes sense
if
you think about it. Forte is trying to avoid making a remote method
invocation if it can.
Now, for anything more complex than looking locally first and if none
is
found give me any remote instance you can find, you will need to do
more
work. Using a naming scheme like Jez suggests below works well.
Sean
- -----Original Message-----
From: Jez Sygrove [<a href="mailto:[email protected]">mailto:[email protected]</a>]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 1998 4:34 AM
To: [email protected]; 'David Foote'
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: multiple named objects with the same name and interface
David,
there's a mechanism used within SCAFFOLDS that allows the
location of the 'nearest' SO when more than one is available.
It involves registering each duplicated SO under three dynamically
built
names. The names include the partition, the node or the environment
name.
When wishing to locate the nearest SO the BO builds a SO name using
its
own partition and asks the name service for that.
If there is an SO registered under that name then it must be in the
same
partition and all is well. No cross partition calls.
If not, then the BO builds the name using its node and asks the name
service for that.
This means that if there is an SO outside the BO partition but still
on
the same node then this can be used. Again, relatively 'local'.
If neither of these work then the BO has to resort to an environment
wide search.
It may be that this approach could be adapted / adopted; I like it's
ingenuity.
Cheers,
Jez
From: David Foote[SMTP:[email protected]]
Reply To: David Foote
Sent: 24 June 1998 03:17
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: multiple named objects with the same name and
interface
Sean,
First, thank you for your response. I have wondered about this fora
long time.
I looked at the documentation for ObjectLocationManager and on page
327
of the Framework Library and AppletSupport Library Guide indescribing
the BindObject method Forte says:
"The name service allows more than one anchored object (from
different
partitions) to be registered in the name service under the same
registration name. When you invoke the BindObject method with a
request
for a name that has duplicate registration entries, the BindObject
method finds an entry corresponding to an active partition, skipping
any
entries that do not. If no such active partition is found, or if the
requested name is not found in the name service registry, a
RemoteAccessException will be raised when the BindObject method is
invoked."
My question is: How did you discover that in the case of duplicate
registrations the naming service will return the local object if one
exists? This is not apparent from the documentation I have quoted.
Is
it documented elsewhere? Or did you determine it empirically?
David N. Foote,
Consultant
----Original Message Follows----
David,
First I will start by saying that this can be done by using named
anchored
objects and registering them yourself in the name service. There is
documentation on how to do this. And by default you will get mostof
the
behavior you desire. When you do a lookup in the name service
(BindObject
method) it will first look in the local partition and see if thereis
a
local copy and give you that copy. By anchoring the object and
manually
registering it in the name service you are programmatically creating
your
own SO without defining it as such in the development environment.
BTW
in
response to your item number 1. This should be the case there as
well.
If
your "mobile" object is in the same partition where the serviceobject
he is
calling resides, you should get a handle to the local instance ofthe
service object.
Here is the catch, if you make a bind object call and there is no
local
copy
you will get a handle to a remote copy but you can not be sure which
one!
It end ups as more or less a random selection. Off the top of myhead
and
without going to the doc, I am pretty sure that when you register an
anchored object you can not limit it's visibility to "User".
Sean
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[<a href=
"mailto:[email protected]]On">mailto:[email protected]]On</a> Behalf Of David Foote
Sent: Monday, June 22, 1998 4:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: multiple named objects with the same name and interface
All,
More than once, I have wished that Forte allowed you to place named
objects with the same name in more than one partition. There aretwo
situations in which this seems desirable:
1) Objects that are not distributed, but are mobile (passed by value
to
remote objects), cannot safely reference a Service Object unless it
has
environment visibility, but this forces the overhead of a remote
method
call when it might not otherwise be necessary. If it were possibleto
place a copy of the same Service Object (with user visibility) ineach
partition, the overhead of a remote method call could be avoided.
This
would only be useful for a service object whose state could besafely
replicated.
2) My second scenario also involves mobile objects referencing a
Service
Object, but this time I would like the behavior of the calledService
Object to differ with the partition from which it is called.
This could be accomplished by placing Service Objects with the same
name
and the same interface in each partition, but varying the
implementation
with the partition.
Does anyone have any thoughts about why this would be a good thingor
a
bad thing?
David N. Foote
Consultant
Alexander Ananiev
Claremont Technology Group
916-558-4127
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Albert,
In my case I was using a named anchored object to get a handle to an actual
service object. My named object that I registered in the name service was
an intermediary to which I did not maintain a connection. So I have not
explicitly tested what you are asking.
However, I too was not using a hard coded reference to the SO, and fail over
and load balancing worked fine. The functions of fail over and load
balancing are not done by the service object but by the name service, proxy
and router. Since you are getting a proxy back any time you do a lookup in
the name service I would think that fail over should work with any anchored
object that is registered in the name service. When you do a RegisterObject
call you will notice that one of the arguments is the session duration,
which implies to me that fail over will be handled the same as for service
objects.
Load balancing adds another wrinkle. Load balancing is handled by a router.
You must get a proxy to the router and not a proxy to an instance of the
object that the router is doing the load balancing for. In the latter
scenario you will be bypassing the router. If you are creating, anchoring
and registering your objects dynamically you will not have a router so you
will not be able to load balance! This applies even if the objects are
instantiated within partitions that are load balanced because you will still
be getting proxies back to a particular instance of the anchored objects.
There are ways to accomplish load balancing between objects that you
register yourself. However, the best solution will vary depending on the
actual problem trying to be solved. If you would like to discuss this
further, include a little more detail about the scenario you need to
implement and I will give you what I know.
BTY what I have outlined above also applies to getting references via a
system agent.
Sean
Cornice Consulting, Inc.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[<a href="mailto:[email protected]">mailto:[email protected]]On</a> Behalf Of Albert Dijk
Sent: Friday, July 03, 1998 11:01 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject:
Alex, David, Jez, Sean,...
My question about both solutions (using Nameservice and agents) is:
If I reach a remote service object using either a BindObject or an agent, do
fail-over and load-balancing work the same way as they normally do when
using a hard coded reference to the SO.
Albert Dijk
From: Sean Brown[SMTP:[email protected]]
Reply To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 1998 6:55 AM
To: Ananiev, Alex; [email protected]
Subject: RE: multiple named objects with the same name and
interface
Alexander,
I can not comment on the speed difference because I never tested it.
But, I
will say that we looked at the agent solution at a client sight
before. I
will give the same warning I gave them. If you go the agent direction
you
are now using agents for a purpose that they were not intended. Even
though
it technically works, as soon as you start using a piece of
functionality in
a way the developer did not intend it to be used you run the risk of
forward
compatibility problems. By this I mean, since agents were not
originally
intended to be used to look up service / anchored object references,
it may
not work in the future because it is not likely to be given
consideration in
any future design.
As we all know, programmers are always stretching the bounds of the
tools
they use and you may have a good reason (i.e. performance). I just
wanted to
let you know the possible risk.
One final note on a limitation of using system agents to obtain
references
to anchored objects. You can not access agents across environments.
So, if
you have connected environments and need to get references to services
in
another environment for fail-over or whatever, you will not be able to
do it
with agents.
Just some thoughts!
Sean
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[<a href="mailto:[email protected]]On">mailto:[email protected]]On</a> Behalf Of Ananiev, Alex
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 1998 12:14 PM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: multiple named objects with the same name and interface
David,
The problem with dynamic binding is that in this case you have to keep
the reference to the service object somewhere. You don't want to call
"bindObject" every time you need to use this service object, "bind" is
a
time-consuming operation, even on the same partition. Keeping
reference
could be undesirable if your object could be moved across partitions
(e.g. business object).
The alternative solution is to use agents. You can create custom
agent,
make it a subagent of an active partition agent and use it as a
placeholder for whatever service you need. "FindSubAgent" works much
faster than "bindObject", we verified that and agent is "user-visible"
by its nature.
Alexander
From: "Sean Brown" <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:12:55 -0500
Subject: RE: multiple named objects with the same name and interface
David,
I actually determined it through testing. In my case I did not want
this to
happen and was trying to determine why it was happing. It makes sense
if
you think about it. Forte is trying to avoid making a remote method
invocation if it can.
Now, for anything more complex than looking locally first and if none
is
found give me any remote instance you can find, you will need to do
more
work. Using a naming scheme like Jez suggests below works well.
Sean
- -----Original Message-----
From: Jez Sygrove [<a href="mailto:[email protected]">mailto:[email protected]</a>]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 1998 4:34 AM
To: [email protected]; 'David Foote'
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: multiple named objects with the same name and interface
David,
there's a mechanism used within SCAFFOLDS that allows the
location of the 'nearest' SO when more than one is available.
It involves registering each duplicated SO under three dynamically
built
names. The names include the partition, the node or the environment
name.
When wishing to locate the nearest SO the BO builds a SO name using
its
own partition and asks the name service for that.
If there is an SO registered under that name then it must be in the
same
partition and all is well. No cross partition calls.
If not, then the BO builds the name using its node and asks the name
service for that.
This means that if there is an SO outside the BO partition but still
on
the same node then this can be used. Again, relatively 'local'.
If neither of these work then the BO has to resort to an environment
wide search.
It may be that this approach could be adapted / adopted; I like it's
ingenuity.
Cheers,
Jez
From: David Foote[SMTP:[email protected]]
Reply To: David Foote
Sent: 24 June 1998 03:17
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: multiple named objects with the same name and
interface
Sean,
First, thank you for your response. I have wondered about this fora
long time.
I looked at the documentation for ObjectLocationManager and on page
327
of the Framework Library and AppletSupport Library Guide indescribing
the BindObject method Forte says:
"The name service allows more than one anchored object (from
different
partitions) to be registered in the name service under the same
registration name. When you invoke the BindObject method with a
request
for a name that has duplicate registration entries, the BindObject
method finds an entry corresponding to an active partition, skipping
any
entries that do not. If no such active partition is found, or if the
requested name is not found in the name service registry, a
RemoteAccessException will be raised when the BindObject method is
invoked."
My question is: How did you discover that in the case of duplicate
registrations the naming service will return the local object if one
exists? This is not apparent from the documentation I have quoted.
Is
it documented elsewhere? Or did you determine it empirically?
David N. Foote,
Consultant
----Original Message Follows----
David,
First I will start by saying that this can be done by using named
anchored
objects and registering them yourself in the name service. There is
documentation on how to do this. And by default you will get mostof
the
behavior you desire. When you do a lookup in the name service
(BindObject
method) it will first look in the local partition and see if thereis
a
local copy and give you that copy. By anchoring the object and
manually
registering it in the name service you are programmatically creating
your
own SO without defining it as such in the development environment.
BTW
in
response to your item number 1. This should be the case there as
well.
If
your "mobile" object is in the same partition where the serviceobject
he is
calling resides, you should get a handle to the local instance ofthe
service object.
Here is the catch, if you make a bind object call and there is no
local
copy
you will get a handle to a remote copy but you can not be sure which
one!
It end ups as more or less a random selection. Off the top of myhead
and
without going to the doc, I am pretty sure that when you register an
anchored object you can not limit it's visibility to "User".
Sean
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[<a href=
"mailto:[email protected]]On">mailto:[email protected]]On</a> Behalf Of David Foote
Sent: Monday, June 22, 1998 4:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: multiple named objects with the same name and interface
All,
More than once, I have wished that Forte allowed you to place named
objects with the same name in more than one partition. There aretwo
situations in which this seems desirable:
1) Objects that are not distributed, but are mobile (passed by value
to
remote objects), cannot safely reference a Service Object unless it
has
environment visibility, but this forces the overhead of a remote
method
call when it might not otherwise be necessary. If it were possibleto
place a copy of the same Service Object (with user visibility) ineach
partition, the overhead of a remote method call could be avoided.
This
would only be useful for a service object whose state could besafely
replicated.
2) My second scenario also involves mobile objects referencing a
Service
Object, but this time I would like the behavior of the calledService
Object to differ with the partition from which it is called.
This could be accomplished by placing Service Objects with the same
name
and the same interface in each partition, but varying the
implementation
with the partition.
Does anyone have any thoughts about why this would be a good thingor
a
bad thing?
David N. Foote
Consultant
Alexander Ananiev
Claremont Technology Group
916-558-4127
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CS4 Linking Text Boxes Together in Anchored Objects?

Hi. Using InDesign CS4 I have a Anchored Object that I would like to link part of it to the next one in the text frame. Example: I have grouped together a text box, a box with a placed UPC from Illustrator and another text box stacked on top of each other, all lined up. I group this and place it in a text box so I can set these at different places along a 29" document. When I have overset text, in the top box for example, I see the + sign but can't grab it to try to link the text to the next text box in the Anchored or grouped object. All I can do it change the size of the box - even when holding down the command key on the Mac with the text too enabled. I am setting it up this way so all three boxes stay together when positioning on pages. I have multiple rows of these so it makes it easier to modify. If I take the grouped set out of the text box so it's by itself I can grab the overset text. I am trying to link text boxes so it's easier and faster to flow in text from another program. Thanks.
Pat

OK, I will try to get the whole page later. I want to keep what you see in the screen shot - one of the grouped objects - together as it goes across the page. So the 9232554 text and all bellow that would stay grouped together when I tab it over to line up to a certain spot on the page. This is placed in a text box that runs horizonal on the page, about 28" across. I also wanted to link the 9232554 box to the 9232729 box which is just a duplicate of the group of text and UPC code before it. But from what you say, and what I tried to do, I can't. Even when all the anchored object groups are in the same long text thread. I tried not grouping each section - the UPC code sandwiched by the text boxes, but could not place them in the long text box when not grouped togther.
I wanted to flow in the text to all 14 of these grouped or anchored objects, say all top boxes, in one 'paste' instead of doing each one at a time but keeping the 3 elements you see togther at all times.
Pat

Anchored objects behind text

Is there a way to make an anchored box sit behind text? I have a section title with section numbers. I would like to place a piece of art behind all the section numbers. The box always comes out on top. I can create a new paragraph style with autonumbering for the section into it, place it over the art, group it, and then anchor it. The only problem is, now the section numbers won't show up in the running head. Any ideas? I'm using CS3. I used to be able to do this in FrameMaker. Thanks.

Can't be done with anchored objects - sorry.
But you can convert your text to a table - and that can put a background in there.
OR
Use Paragraph Rules to highlight a line of text or a pargraph of text
http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-49-paragraph-rules-rule

Scrollable frame is text: anchored object in text can not be button?

Following example: A textframe. With an anchored object (group). Paste textframe in other frame to make scrollable frame (pan only). Select anchored frame in already pasted into textframe, make button for anchored object (go to state).
Does not work, button does nothing (and yes a converted it to a button after the paste into other frame as last step).
Not possible?
DPS v18

If you want the button in the scrollable frame to control an MSO state, the button/scrollable frame needs to be part of the MSO. It is an InDesign limitation that buttons cannot control videos, audio clips, or MSOs unless they're on the same "level" in the document.

Anchored Objects Stuck in Text Frame

Hello,
I have updated from CS4 to CS6 and am now having a problem with being able to edit anchored objects from a file that I used to work off of in the CS4 version.
I am working on a catalog that has product assessory boxes that are made up of images and text. In CS4, I created the accessory boxes, grouped all the items and pasted it in the text frame that held the text and photos of other products. I used to be able to edit the text or cut and paste the accessory box out of the text frame it was placed into. Now since I have upgraded to CS6 I cannot edit them at all, when I try to select the box with the selction tool or highlight the text with the type tool nothing will happen. The only thing I can do is hightlight the whole box and cut and paste it into another text frame I create, which doesnt help because I still cannot edit them.
In CS6, I have created an accessory box from scratch, and followed the same process as I have before and I can edit and select like I used to do. The problem only seems to come with the accessory boxes I have created in CS4.
This is a pretty large catalog, and will take a lot of time to recreate all the accessory boxes, so any suggestion to help fix the problem will be greatly appriciated.
Thank you!

Long shot, but go to the application preferences and uncheck the box in the General section that says Prevent Selection of Locked Objects.

Problem with anchored objects in file from CS4

I opened, in CS5, a file which was done in CS4 and discovered all my anchored objects were gone!
Analising the document, I understood they were there, but in a kind of mask ("Illustrator style") but in a text frame, which is odd, I think.
I show here:
1. one picture of the CS4 file
2. one picture of the same file, but opened in CS5
3. one picture of this file, in CS5, showing the "ghost" when I put the cursor over the "missing" anchored object
If I cut and paste the objects they appear, but if I put them back like anchored objects, they disapear again.
I had to fix every thing in a document I was working (it's a 124 pages document...) without anchored objects, just grouped them, because it was urgent (as always...) but I am reporting this because maybe people hadn't notice this and maybe there's a way to fix this.

It's very hard to tell what might be causing this without seeing the actual file. I looked around and found a CS4 file on my suystem with hundreds of anchored photos, and they show fine when I open in CS5.
My first impression is that this is ither a layer problem of some sort, or perhaps the objects have been set not to print and you have a preview mode enabled, but eh screen captures don't seem to support the latter.
What happens if you export the file to .idml in CS4 and open that in CS5?

Need anchored objects to be behind text

Anchored objects have aways had lot of shortcomings for my workflow. One shortcoming I'd really like to see fixed in future versions of ID is the inability to choose for the anchored object to appear behind the text it is anchored with. Here are just a few uses that I can think of that would be helpful in my workflow:
Creating numbered lists that have specialty art behind the numbers. To do this currently, you have to either do manual numbering and group it with each object and anchor the object with the number into the line of text or you have to keep the auto-number list and the objects for the numbers separate and manually reposition the number objects whenever the text reflows.
Creating paragraph backgrounds that flow with the paragraph. Right now about the only way to do that is using the paragraph rules or tables which have severe formatting limitations (no rounded corners, ignore text wrap, etc.), and the rules are difficult to resize. If you could create the background as a ID object or placed art and anchor it to the beginning or end of the paragraph, you could manually resize it to the size of the paragraph and it will flow with the paragraph whereever you need it (this currently will not work unless the object can be made transparent to the text using an effect.
Captioning anchored images could actually overlap the image if and where necessary. Right now, if you want captions to appear on top of an anchored image, you have to group the caption with the image before anchoring it into the text flow.
There are workarounds obviously for these tasks (as I've indicated), but by their nature workarounds are time consuming. I'm always looking for ways to automate tasks and save time in ID. Having the option to make an object appear behind the text it is anchored with would be a tremendous time saver.
Anyone else see a use for stacking order option with anchored objects?

@Obi-wan – you say: "Despite the fact that, like all anchored boxes, it is foreground, text color is truly visible with no effect on the blue block !!"
With anchoring "Above Line" the anchored objects are really stacked behind. At least that stacking order is true for all characters after the anchor character. Using a different anchoring method will always yield in anchored objects stacked above (foreground).
Doing some tricks with the effects panel on the anchored object is alright, so that all the other text, that is stacked below will showing through, but you should be aware, that these effects will change the game when it comes to color separation for print workflows.
Separation preview with all channels visible CMYK:
Separation preview with [Black] not visible CMY:
As you can see, the usually overprinting color [Black] on the text below is left out. When exporting a PDF, I think nearly no prepress tool in the world will find an automatic way to change this because of the stacking order of the elements.
If the green rectangle would be stacked behind the text like in anchoring "Above Line" we will see the following with separation preview CMYK:
Turn off K in the separation preview will give a surprising image:
All black text, that comes after the anchor character will overprint, all text before will not. And that "will not" is definitive. If we look at the objects in Acrobat Pro after exporting to PDF, we will see that not overprinting characters "ut endis" in my little screenshot here are below the green rectangle, all characters following after the anchor are above the green rectangle.
Here a screen shot from Acrobat Pro that will reveal the stacking order a bit (the transparent background of the page is shown as gray; an option in Acrobat Pro's view preferences):
So in the end, "ut endis" will be printed with a total amount of color:
0 Cyan
0 Magenta
0 Yellow
100 Black
Sum: 100%
The "black" text following due to overprinting* (EDIT) will be printed with:
75 Cyan
5 Magenta
100 Yellow
100 Black
Sum: 280%
* AND of stacking order of course!
All other black text will overprint as well, but there is no effect for the green rectangle because the text is stacked behind the rectangle.
Uwe

Release Anchored Objects

Hi,
Does anyone knows about a scrip able to release all the anchored objects in a InDesign 5.5 document?
Thank you in advance
Maria

Hi Maria,
Please use the below JS code, But the code is your requirement has been solved, i feel this way is big round circle. So any one make short your requirement after my script to edit or modify.
var myDoc = app.activeDocument;
var myPGItem = myDoc.allPageItems;
for(j=0; j<myPGItem.length; j++){
    var myAncObj = myPGItem[j];
    if(myAncObj.parent.constructor.name=="Character"){
        if(myAncObj.constructor.name =="TextFrame" || myAncObj.constructor.name =="Rectangle" || myAncObj.constructor.name =="Group"){
            myAncObj.anchoredObjectSettings.releaseAnchoredObject();
thx
csm_phil

New technique to place multiple anchored objects in InDesign story

Hello,
For a while I have been trying to figure out how to insert multiple anchored objects into an Indesign story. As far as I can tell, you cannot copy multiple objects that have already been placed in a document (such as a multi-page pdf) into an InDesign story, but must copy and paste them one-by-one into the story. This is a problem for a project I am working on where I want to have a large number of 340x52 pt pdfs to flow throughout a document in a master text frame interspersed with text.
I have now found a solution for this issue that I thought I would share in case it would be helpful for anyone. It utilizes Automator actions for Mac OS X and Microsoft Word 2011 [2008 may work also, but I don't have a copy of that to test]; I am not good with scripting but perhaps similar solutions could be found for other systems and programs.
1. If you want to place a multipage pdf within a text frame, first it into individual files for each page (with Acrobat Pro or pdftk or something similiar).
2. Create an Automator service or program with the action "Create New Word Document". You can also use another automator action to save the document, or save it manually (to change the filename). In the finder, select the items you want, then run the service or drag them into the Automator program you have created.
3. Place the word document into your InDesign story. Your items will now be anchored objects ordered in your text frame as they were in the finder.
Please let me know if this is helpful or if anyone has suggestions for doing this process is a more efficient way. I am not sure, but it may be the case that this approach would only work on Macs, as I gather from this thread.

I might note that I am using InDesign CS 5, and importing from a document stored in docx format.

Get textFrame by label returns null and anchored objects

I have the following two functions:
function getByLabel(page, label)
    for(var i=0; i < page.allPageItems.length; i++)
        if( page.allPageItems[i].label == label )
            return page.allPageItems[i];
and
Object.prototype.findItems = function(/*obj*/props)
    if( !('everyItem' in this) )
        throw new Error("Error: " + this + " is not a collection.");
    var ret = this.everyItem().getElements(),
        i = ret.length,
        e, p;
    while( i-- && e=ret[i] )
        for( p in props )
            if( (p in e) && e[p]===props[p] ) continue;
            ret.splice(i,1);
    return ret;
In my page structure, I got one main text frame (the content area) and two vertical text fromes on the sides of the page. There is also a small box textframe on top of the page. All these textboxes EXCEPT the main text frame are ALL "ANCHORED objects". I had to make them anchored objects, eitherwise after importing data, the boxes would jump around. (Example, the small box textframe that is on the top would get moved to the content area textframe etc). Not sure if using anchored objects is the proper way to fix this.
When I try to get the small box text frame, it does not work using the findItems (returns null) but it works fine with the getByLabel method. Why is that?
The calling syntax is:
for( i=0 ; i < doc.pages.length ; ++i )
        var page = doc.pages.item(i);
        var textFrame = getByLabel(page, 'lblSection' ); //This works
        //   var textFrame = page.textFrames.findItems({ label: 'lblSection' })[0]; This does not work, returns null
        if( textFrame != null )
            textFrame.parentStory.contents = "";

(function () {
    // Per the InDesign Scripting Guide, app.activeScript is only
    // valid when a script is directly executed from InDesign, not
    // from the ESTK, so a try/catch block is recommended to handle
    // it.
    var d;
    try {
        d = app.activeScript.parent.parent.fsName;
    } catch (e) {
        d = Folder.appPackage.parent.fsName+"/Scripts";
        return d;

Text wrap in anchored objects

In order to place text boxes relative to the spine, I have placed them as anchored objects.
But now, these text frames do not respect text wrap setting from objects outside of the anchored object.
I have made sure that ignore text wrap in text frame options is not checked.
Is this a bug?
And does anyone know a workaround?

In order to make my design indifferent to later added pages, I have placed all text frames and graphic placeholders as anchored objects, positioning them relative to spine.
When I now place an object on top of such an anchored text frame, text wrap is not working, even if i overide the master page item.
The only work around I have found is to copy the respective text frame and make the original master page item unvisible.
Is there not another way to to this?
For me, the best would be another way of placing text and graphic frames relative to spine.
Bus as soon as one overrides the master page item, the object is not placed anymore relative to spine if another page is inserted.

CS4 text wrap over anchored object

Every time I place an anchored object (doesn't matter if it's graphic or text frame) and apply text wrap, Indesign freezes permanently and only solution is killing it via task manager.
I opened CS3 file with anchored objects w/ txt wrap and the same freeze happens when trying to move, delete or apply different wrap settings to object.
It never happened in previous version of ID on my machine.
Any solution to this problem? Thanks.
My PC conf.:
AMD x2 2.7
2GB RAM
Vista 32bit

The first thing to try is replacing your preferences.
http://livedocs.adobe.com/en_US/InDesign/5.0/help.html?content=WSa285fff53dea4f86173837510 01ea8cb3f-6d1e.html

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