GT60 ONC raid question

Hi, i have a GT60 ONC , currently running a ssd and hdd configuration. Since the gt60 only support 1 bay for sata 2 speed and 1 bay for sata 3 speed so i guess its pointless to raid 0 them with ssd. However i just saw the refreshed version of GT60 ONE and it features a super raid controller. My question is can i buy and install the super raid controller on my GT60 ONC and buy 2 msata ssd for a raid 0 configuration?.
Thanks.

It's not complete pointless i installed 2 SSD drives (RAID 0) in my GT60-16F3 and it's almost twice as fast as with 1 SSD but your right on the part that you dont get the full speed as with 2x Sata 3 so yeh it's a shame that it is a sata 2 and 3 why not 2x sata 3 ?
But thats marketing i think.
It would be nice to be able to update/grade it with a super raid controller maybe it is possible if it is would love to see a guide/manual how to do.

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Request: Bios mod for GT60-ONC 16F311 unlock

Hi i would love to have a mod for this laptop GT60-ONC 16F311 so i can enable and disable options and overclock manually and push the ram a little futher.
My current BIOS is,
BIOS :E16F3IMS.10M (there is a raid version but i dont have raid)
EC version : 16F3EMS2 ver 4.05
Hope someone can help me with a unlocked ROM so i can use all options in the BIOS.

Oh ok shame that there is not more possible ,such disable throttle and that kind of stuff but thx for your fast reply , and as soon there is a possibillity then i am the first who want it.
Would love to play a little with this computer but since all is locked then there is not much option.

Custom BIOS for GT60-ONC

Hi, is it possible to have an unlocked BIOS for GT60 ONC that allow CPU and DRAM tuning ?
Basically I would a BIOS that allow the same things that on desktop motherboard, dram timing, frequency adjustment, CPU frequency and things like vt-x or hyper-threading activation.
Also is there some features that can be tuned on the VGA card from BIOS ?
I read on a post that you have a custom EC that handle better fans, is it possible to have it also ?
Right now I have :
EC : 16F3EMS1_T16
BIOS : E16F3IMS.10U

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Also is there some features that can be tuned on the VGA card from BIOS ?
only for onboard GPU, not for dedicated/discrete nvidia card.
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Hi, is it possible to have an unlocked BIOS for GT60 ONC
yes its possible to be unlocked, about all new unlocked options how they and will they work do not depend of me.
can be done also add on intel storage fw update
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I read on a post that you have a custom EC that handle better fans, is it possible to have it also ?
yes its possible, but you need to be more detailed of your target descriptions

Modded bios msi gt60 onc

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Can i have modded bios for oc my gt60 onc ?
With the last bios E16F3IMS.10U
Can you unlock cpu multiplier, memory tweaks,cpu throttling,PPU Dsable etc ?
Thank you

Yes its possible, i can start work over it once donation is received: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=134259.0
optional can also update intel rapid firmware to the latest version

Newbie FCP HDV monitoring and RAID questions

Hello forum gods.
First off, I must confess - I am a defector seeking assylum in the the Mac camp. I am a born-and-bred Windows person, and a longtime Avid editor who just made the jump and purchased the Mac-Pro with all the bells and whistles, and FCP Studio. I did this to accompany my JVC ProHD cam and deck.
I have no idea what I am going to do with the time I used to spend scanning for viruses and trojans. I am thinking I may write a novel, or build a house by hand - but that is another topic.
Now that the confession is out of the way - we can move on to the actual questions.
<big breath>
Ok - so I have this new fancy shiny computer, deck, camera, and monitors - one of which is the Sony 23" that is comparable to the Apple 23. I do not have a Kona or Blackmagic card because I was told that I did not need one right away - though I do plan on getting one later. For monitoring, I was going to use the firewire in/out of the JVC deck and convert the signal via the component outs to another HD monitor. This would bring the total monitors on the system to 3 - a 19" for the edit screen, the 23" for the video playback in FCP and the braodacast HD for monitoring the final signal.
Is this workable?
Now for the second question - storage and RAID.
Most of my footage will be either SD or HDV. Eventually I'll be going to XDCam, but that's a bit down the road. I have the internal 250 gigger that came in the Mac, and I purchased additional 500gb SATA II drives that I was going to use to set up a RAID. Should I do this internal or external? Will it work? What else do I need? What is the meaning of life?
Thanks for your replies. My credit card is anxiously awaiting your suggestions
G5 Quad Mac OS X (10.4.8)
G5 Quad Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Some question back atcha:
1) When you say you'll be working in SD, what do you
mean? Typically, SD refers to uncompressed 601, 720 X
486. Or are you referring to DV NTSC?
DV NTSC and/or the myriad formats that the JVC100 can do.
2) Your Profile says you have a Quad G5, but your
post says it's a MacPro. Which is it?
Sorry - Consider that my first public gaffe in the new Mac world. I bought the Mac Pro. Time to change my profile. I bought it last week - it isn't even here yet. Supposed to be delivered today...
3) Are you wanting to see your HDV sequence on a
external video monitor while you're editing? If so,
you'll need the Kona card (or the Blackmagic card,
but I don't do BMD, only Aja, so I don't know about
the Blackmagic offerings.)
I've read about the Cinema Preview function and although I know that this isn't the best idea for monitoring, wouldn't it work? On the JVC deck, it has the firewire output/input and component outs (among others) so in E-to-E mode, couldn't the deck act as my converter for monitoring on the broadcast monitor? If not - I have a line on a Kona-2 with the BOB for about $1400. Deal or no deal?
Now as for your RAID question, you can do either
internal or external. Just don't include the drive
that contains your system folder in the RAID.
I was planning on using the 250 for all my system files and the 2-500 giggers as my edit drives. Sound good?
EDIT: As for the meaning of life, go ask your father.
Gaah... He handed me "The Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy" and told me to get to reading....
Thanks for the help. Lord knows I need it.

Does GT60-ONC support Hyper-V (Windows Server 2012)??

Does GT60-ONC support Hyper-V (Windows Server 2012)??
I own GT60-ONC bought in Thailand.
I remove windows 8 and install Windows Server 2012.
I want to install Hyper-V feature.
But I cannot see any option to enable virtualization from BIOS.
my current BIOS info.. is
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.25g
MSIHQ: Report generated in Tue 04/29/2014 at 11:50:02.71
Mainboard: MS-16F3
PCB Version: REV:1.0
BIOS Version: E16F3IMS.10C
BIOS Date: 4/26/2012
EC-FW Version:
please help .........
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You are using Hyper-V server and not Hyper-V on Windows Sever.
Hyper-V server is free, but it only includes the Hypervisor and no GUI (Only for managing Hyper-V)
what's your physical machine OS ?
If it's Windows 8 or 8.1 then you can enable the Hyper-V management tools (Programs and features, Turn On/off Windows Features, Hyper-V, Hyper-V management tools). Then open the Hyper-V console and connect to your Hyper-V server.
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Newbie raid question

I am about to upgrade from a G5 powermac dual-core 2.0 to a Mac Pro. I have never used a raid configuration and need a little help. I intend to configure the Mac Pro with a 160GB drive and buy 2 320GB Seagates to use in a raid configuration. All I know is that this should increase HD performance. Some questions:
1. What type of raid configs are there?
2. What is the most appropriate raid config for general use?
3. Can I use this config for boot and apps as if I am using a single drive?
4. If I had 4 drives can I have 2 seperate raid configs which OSX sees as 2 drives?
5. Could I set the 2 320GB drives in raid for boot and apps and use the 160GB in bay 3 for Windows?
6. Is the difference in performance compared to standard single drives really that great - I mostly use Aperture and Logic Pro?
7. Finally does anybody have any recommendations for quiet, inexpensive HDs over 250GB that are good for raid?
As I said I am totally new to raid so forgive my naivety on the subject. Any information is greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Michael

I agree with Allen, the RAID options Apple gives you in Disk Utility has a lot of limited uses and drawbacks.
If you search for "RAID" and my posts you'll learn a lot from my experience.
Basically it comes to this:
If you need extreme speed for CS2 (over 3GB) Photoshop file manipulation, to eliminate any bottleneck with drive speed for a heavy duty render, huge file duplication in a production environment where halving your drive speed could come in handy, then a dedicated small RAID 0 (stripe) pair as a working disk with two extremely small fast drives is ideal.
Either a pair of 10,000 RPM 74GB or 150GB Raptors, but the data on them must be backed up or the boot drive auto-cloned frequently as RAID 0's are risky. Striping large drives is not advised as substantial data loss can occur and the considerable time it takes to backup/clone the stripe set.
Some, like me, use this as a boot drive. The extreme speed comes in handy occasionally, but rarely.
(note: PowerMac G5 users may need a bootable Firmtek SATA PCI card to use the newer Western Digital drives)
RAID 1 (mirror) immediately duplicates the data to another drive, which only offers hardware protection. If you corrupt one drive, so does the other drive get corrupted. So it's best to use auto-cloning/auto-backup software to clone the boot drive to the second drive once a week and auto-backup select folders nightly. This way you have the benefit of time.
Apple also offers the option to chain one drive to another, making it appear as one. If your data fills up one drive, it can spill over onto the other. This is just as risky as RAID 0, have one drive fail and you could lose data on the set.

RAID question (disk problem?) on K9A2 Platinum

This may be a newbie question but I just can't figure this out.
I have been getting hard stops and upon restart I am told my RAID array is critical or rebuilding. Sometimes W7 will restart normally when I pick that, most times I have to go through some sort of restore routine. I have reloaded my video drivers (ATI Catalyst) no difference. Diskeeper indicates that the HD is critical and badly fragmented.
How do I tell which of my two disks is bad without cracking the case, unplugging one at a time and trying to reboot? When I go into the Fatbuild utility both drives appear to have the same number.
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That's actually very helpful thanks.
>eSata works with AHCI, but not for bootdrives...Windows in total doesn't handle hotplugging well.
Frankly, once the remote HDs are plugged in they will probably stay that way. I just want faster backups. If I go the AHCI route, presumably I have to enable the Promise controller for the eSATA ports. Remember reading here that the K9A2 Promise controller runs the eSATA ports. Is that correct.
The Diskeeper comment was just further grist for the mill that makes me think the RAID drives -- or one at least -- are not long for this World. To date myself badly I wish I was able to use an original version of Norton Utilities
>REAL hardware controllers have their own CPU and memory! and are in the € 500 range or higher.
   You can use pounds if you like. I was born in Birmingham (a long time ago) and still understand that better than Euros. You look to be on GMT.

Power Mac G4 RAID Question

After successfully putting OS X Leopard on my Power Mac G4, I then gasped at the amount of space I had; from the built in 10 GB hard drive, I had a couple hundred MegaBytes left. However, I recently pulled a 40 GB Hard Drive from another computer, and installed it. The Mac had no problem identifying and formatting it.
However, having very little space and more things to install, my question is this; How do I set up this Mac to identify the 2 internal drives as one single drive? I have done a little research, and discovered Disk Utility's ability to configure a sort of "Software RAID," but cannot find a good guide as to define how to actually do so. Any ideas?
Thanks in advance,
Jordan. Meow!

OK, you're not going to get much speed out of OSX with only 50 GB to start with, since Leopard does best with 100 GB or 30% Free space, but anyway, boot from the Install Disc...
1. Insert the Mac OS X Install disc, then restart the computer while holding the C key.
2. When your computer finishes starting up from the disc, choose Disk Utility from the Installer menu. (In Mac OS X 10.4 or later, you must select your language first.)
*Important: Do not click Continue in the first screen of the Installer. If you do, you must restart from the disc again to access Disk Utility.*
Select one of the drives, click on the RAID tab, Raid type select Concatenated RAID set, drag to two drives on the left to the window on the right, iirc.

RAID question

We currently have our 10g database connected to our storage array (RAID10). We're going to upgrade our servers to 64-bit machines, and in the process the physical DBA wants to start storing our data on the local drive system (RAID5).
There is sufficient space on the new server, and it's easily upgradable if our growth estimates are incorrect. The general consensus here is that in the case of disk failure, a modern RAID5 system no longer takes an unnacceptable amount of time to rebuild a disk.
As the logical DBA, I am concerned about changes, especially when I don't fully understand the technology. Is there anything I should be worried about, or good questions I could ask in order to insure that we get the same performance level and availability? My knowledge of RAID is purely theoretical, and comes from articles I've accessed on the web.
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the first thing comes to my mind is your primary concern will be write speed impact on your system.
RAID 5 have superior disk read rate but moderate to low write rate because of the parity generation.
RAID 10 have over all better IO rates.
It's also interesting to know there're definitition between Physical and Logical DBA somewhere. :)

Xserve disks and RAID questions

I have an Intel Xserve with its two original 750 GB disks. These are configured as RAID 1 (mirror).
I intend to purchase an identical disk as a hot spare and upgrade two old G4s with four each of the same disks as reserve web servers/backup.
The original disks are Seagate ST3750640NS which I can buy for £140 although the Apple price is £386 including the disk carrier. Apple refuses to sell the disk carriers separately.
The PCI boards I have found are:
http://firmtek.stores.yahoo.net/sata1v4.html
and
http://www.sonnettech.com/product/temposatax4i.html
costing $120 and $200 respectively.
There are PC boards as cheap as $20 but these may have bootability and compatibility issues. There appears to be little information about the proportion of hard/soft RAID resulting from any of these boards.
My questions are:
1 - Is there an inexpensive way of buying disk carriers for recent Xserves?
2 - Are there alternative satisfactory PCI boards?
3 - Do such boards differ much in terms of RAID types supported?
4 - Do such boards differ much in terms of the degree to which they are host computer independent? - ie more hard than soft and hence, presumably, faster.

>1 - Is there an inexpensive way of buying disk carriers for recent Xserves?
I'm not aware of any sources other than Apple (at least that I'd trust).
>2 - Are there alternative satisfactory PCI boards?
There are several manufacturers who make PCI RAID cards that you can use. You've listed two, but there are others including the RocketRAID series, and those from ACard.
>3 - Do such boards differ much in terms of RAID types supported?
In my opinion, you get what you pay for.
Cheap cards may support RAID 0 and 1, while more expensive cards may add RAID 5. This may or may not be important for you if you're just mirroring.
There are going to be performance differences between each card. Since you're using G4's, though, you're going to have other bottlenecks, so disk speed isn't likely to be a big factor.
>4 - Do such boards differ much in terms of the degree to which they are host computer independent? - ie more hard than soft and hence, presumably, faster.
If you get a card that works in a Mac, it's likely to also work in other hardware. The same can not necessarily be said the other way around - cheap PC-centric cards may not support Macs, mostly because of driver issues.
Note that you may also have issues with booting - not all cards can create bootable volumes which may leave you out in the cold if you don't check that first.

RAID questions

I have a couple of questions on Raid. According to Danny, ICH5R is not hardware raid. This question was risen in my last post "Help creating partitions in RAID 0 volume", because it seems Partiton Magic only works with hardware raid. Also, I got the impression that a RAID 0 volume can only be created in a Dynamic Disk. However, Windows disk manager shows my Raid 0 volume as being a Basic disk. I'm confused. My questions:
- Does software in general recognize my Raid setup as being software raid (ICH5R)?
- Is it true that there is little gain in speed with software raid?
- Why does my raid volume show up as being a basic disk?
- How much does it cost a TRUE hardare raid controller? Any decisive advantages over my mobo's ICH5R?
- As anyone used Partion Magic for partitoning Raid volumes using software raid?
I've been serching the web for answers but I've found more contradictions than answers Any help is appreciated. Thanks

I can't answer all your questions but here's a start.
Theoretically, the ICH5R has twice the bandwidth of the PCI bus so should be faster. In practice, most people with FIS2R boards have found the Promise controller a little quicker. It seemed a little faster for me as well but it wasn't a huge difference and I suspect it depends on what you're using it for. As for hardware/software issues, I don't know. I do know that I got hard drive performance increases of between 30 and 70% on both Raid controllers compared to a single drive depending on which benchmark program I used and the type of test. I also found that Partition Magic 8 seems to function properly using the boot floppy with either the Intel or Promise Raid controller. I also use Drive Image 7 which comes with a boot CD and it works with both Raids as well. I have learned the hard way not to use any features where you make changes in Windows and the program then boots automatically into DOS to make changes and then boots into Windows again. If the program is not completely compatible with the 865/875 chipset(I doubt any can promise that yet), it will hang in Dos mode and you're stuck with a Dos partition at the beginning of your C drive. So I like to boot these programs from a floppy/CD.
I'm not satisfied yet that the Raid0 config is really stable so I have WinXP installed on a single SATA in the Intel controller and a Raid0 array on the Promise controller for all my media/Games. I also put my pagefile on the Raid. This allows me to load game levels/movies/large images etc... quickly and keep my OS a little safer. After Windows loads, it doesn't access the XP drive much anyway with 1GB of memory. Then I just periodically save important media/game saves on the XP drive or CD and use drive image to save the OS on the Raid drive.
Hope that helps answer some of your questions.

X-Raid question about adding more drives

Hi Guys.
I am running an X Server (10.3.8 dual 2GHZ PPC G5)with an X-Raid attached. Right now it is only half full with a RAID5 volume that is my main file server.
My question is can i add three 500GB drives into the empty slots of my X-Raid and congiure them as another RAID5 volume without killing my current drives setup on the X-Raid?
Thanks for any help.

You can do it hot. The 3 drives you insert will not affect the exiting RAID set in any way whatsoever. The Xserve RAID supports up to 3 RAID sets per RAID controller (each controller handles one "half" of the array -- so 7 drives). What you're doing is very common.
The only thing I say is that you need to be sure you replace the 3 unused "blanks" and don't accidentally eject one of the drives that's already part of a RAID set. This should be pretty obvious as the "live" drives have blue and green lights, and the blanks have none, but other than that, it's a cakewalk.

Raid question, can it be done or not

hi, and thanks in advance for any help given regarding my question.
i have two raptors set up as a mirrored raid array, my question is can i go into bios and change them to a stripped array (raid 0) for peformance without having to reinstall xp and if so what are the best settins?

I can confirm supershanks answer, as i've TRIED it.. and no, if you change ANY of the nVraid settings, you have to reinstall windows..
I don't think this is the case with all RAID controllers though, as the promise controller on my other board, was more flexible..
you could just make a ghost image of your current setup, then change the settings, and ghost it back. check my sig for instructions using ghost with nvraid

Mirrored RAID Question

Possibly a dumb question: If Mac OSX (10.4.11 in this case) boots from a mirrored RAID (2 drives), is there any additional protection from routine disk directory errors? Again, I'm not asking about the physical failure of one of the drives, but from the type of directory errors that sometimes happen after a system freeze or loss of AC power to the system.
Another way of asking the same question: Will disk directory errors in one drive be automatically mirrored in the second drive, or will the second drive not have the same directory errors?
Background: I've got an older G4 tower with two identical drives installed that I use as a play/experiment computer. I can either keep the two drives totally independent and do daily (or even more often) total, bootable backups from the primary to the backup drive, or else configure as a mirrored RAID.
Thanks.

Both drives should be on independent bus or using a controller. The MDD has two buses, but ATA/66 and ATA/100 differ by 4% and enough difference to not recommend using two drives in any form of stripped or mirrored RAID.
Two drives on same bus, master/slave I would avoid as the bus has to wait for one drive for I/O before it can talk to the second drive.
With an SATA no such problem or limitation, or using an ATA controller with two independent channels.

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