GT70 2QD system crash with FANS running at 100% on external monitor only

So I have a GT70 2QD with 4710MQ and 970M graphics. I've swapped out the hard drives and gone with 2 SSD's and added another 16GB of RAM. I'm quite experienced with system building, so no concerns there. My problem only occurs when I have the computer attached to an external monitor. The fans will get up to max without using the button to enable the cooling boost and the only way to shut it down is to put the system to sleep. Temperatures are never an issue, especially once the fans get going. The system will occasionally slow down and lag and has from time to time just crashed and rebooted. I have none of these issues while using the laptops own monitor, gaming or not. It is strictly related to being attached to an external monitor. Any thoughts, suggestions or previous experience with this problem would be appreciated.
Thanks

Quote from: medic10167 on 28-May-15, 22:08:21
Thanks for asking...I've done a bunch of research, and from what I can see on the forums this isn't an isolated incident. Sadly it seems that ppl that have sent their laptops in for RMA get them back and still end up having the same problem. It very well could be a motherboard issue, but is that's the case, IMO it sounds like a faulty temperature sensor. The only fix for that would be a new motherboard. The cost of doing RMA business with MSI in the past has been atrocious (over $100 for a video card) so I'm afraid to ask what it would cost to send my laptop to them. All they really need to do is a firmware update that identifies the faulty sensor and changes its operation parameters.
Firmware update has its limits. Maybe this is something cannot be fixed by firmware.

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I'll go into some more detail of my troubles, this should help in the solution.
system was built out of Fry's Electronics 2 years ago. From the moment that I took it home I was having this problem. I thought it might be a faulty RAM stick at the time, so I had them replaced, but to no avail. The soluton if I remember was to reformat. Everything was fine for 2 years.
last month I opened up the system and cleaned the dust out of the inside. I removed the RAM and the CPU fan. Hooked everything back up and the system starts crashing and rebooting like crazy, and there's the problem again. It would crash while it's booting up, while it's sitting at the desk top, while I'm on the internet, any time it wanted to crash, it would do so. Not only that, but my BIOS and graphics drivers were suddenly out of date for some reason. I keep my drivers up to date, so this was weird to me.
I'll forward the ideas that you guys come up with to my guy, thanks ahead for your assistance.

Quote from: tcourchaine on 14-September-11, 02:59:59
I can't provide you guys with anything, it's been with this guy for over a month. I've been running with 6GB for the past 2 years with no problems until I dusted out the inside of the case. Obviously it aggravated the problem I had two years ago.
i agree, maybe that wasn't the solution. it was after all 2 years ago and my memory was fuzzy. After a month and a half with this guy I got my comp back today. He reinstalled windows 7 and updated the BIOS. That helped out a lot, but it still froze twice, and reset it's self once with 6GB RAM in it. I took the 3rd RAM stick out, givign me 4GB, and noticed that my graphics drivers weren't updated yet, so maybe that was the reason for the crashes? I'm not so sure about that either though, because after I updated the GPU drivers it froze not too long after that. Maybe I needed to reboot for the drivers to take full effect? it didn't prompt me to restart, so I'm a little uncertain there.
I was thinking of trying it with 6GB RAM again, now that my graphics drivers are up to speed and the system has been rebooted.

Webcam Live Pro causes system crash with Windows XP Home

Ever since installing Webcam Live Pro I have been having random system restarts. This ONLY happens when the webcam is being used. It happens when using the Creative Webcam Center or another application. Sometimes the restart will happen after a few minutes, and other times an hour or more. I am running Windows XP sp2 with all patches, and there are no driver conflicts listed in Device Manager. I have the cam set at 60 hz.
Even though there are no listed driver conflicts in Device Manager, there clearly is a driver conflict that occurs from time to time. I have read of other people having this same problem on this forum with Webcam Live Pro. I am using the driver ...0 which is dated 0//2004, and the automatic update program on this web site says that I am using the latest driver. But in the download section of this web site, the latest driver is listed as .0.0.0 and dated November 9, 2004. The driver numbers or dates do not match, and the driver on the web seems to have an earlier number but a later date!?
Does anyone (especially a Creative tech support person who may be reading this post) have any idea what to do? The driver version is one issue. But the big issue is the system crashes.
Best,
CB

Solution! I discovered the problem causing the system crash, and I think it is sufficiently interesting to note here so that others may benefit from what I discovered. First, there is no fundamental problem/conflict with the driver for Webcam Live Pro. The trouble in my instance is that I was running another program that utilized the web cam, and that program conflicted with the Webcam Live Pro program that was constantly running in the system tray. Basically, the program in the system tray is loaded with the set-up for Webcam Live Pro. It constantly monitors the computer system to see if the cam is connected to the computer. When it does this while another program is using the cam, the conflict occurs, causing the entire computer to reboot. The solution is to right mouse click the icon for Webcam Live Pro in the system tray, go to settings, and to remove the check that allows the program to check for the presence of the web cam. Just to be safe, I then also exited the Webcam Live Pro program from the system tray so that nothing from that program could interfere with my use of the webcam using another program.
The result is that the webcam is rock solid, with no system crashes. I have been running it nonstop for hours without a problem.
I hope this helps someone else.
Best,
CB

Late 2014 iMac 5K running unusually slowly with fans running at high speed

Problem description:
iMac 5K
The computer is running unusually slowly although it is not experiencing high CPU utilization.
The computer's fans run at high speed although the computer is not experiencing heavy usage.
Apple Diagnostics points to SMC problem.
SMC and PRAM resets have not worked.
See Etre Report below.
Thanks for help.
Herbie49
EtreCheck version: 2.1.8 (121)
Report generated 30. März 2015 07:32:40 MESZ
Download EtreCheck from http://etresoft.com/etrecheck
Hardware Information: ℹ️
    iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2014) (Technical Specifications)
    iMac - model: iMac15,1
    1 4 GHz Intel Core i7 CPU: 4-core
    32 GB RAM Upgradeable
        BANK 0/DIMM0
            8 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok
        BANK 1/DIMM0
            8 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok
        BANK 0/DIMM1
            8 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok
        BANK 1/DIMM1
            8 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok
    Bluetooth: Good - Handoff/Airdrop2 supported
    Wireless: en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac
Video Information: ℹ️
    AMD Radeon R9 M295X - VRAM: 4096 MB
        iMac spdisplays_5120x2880Retina
System Software: ℹ️
    OS X 10.10.2 (14C1514) - Time since boot: 0:31:53
Disk Information: ℹ️
    APPLE SSD SM0512F disk1 : (500,28 GB)
        EFI (disk1s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB
        Macintosh SSHD (disk1s2) / : 499.42 GB (251.32 GB free)
        Recovery HD (disk1s3) <not mounted> [Recovery]: 650 MB
    Samsung SSD 840 EVO 750GB disk0 : (750,16 GB)
        EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB
        Herbies Daten (disk0s2) /Volumes/Herbies Daten : 749.30 GB (299.14 GB free)
        Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted> [Recovery]: 650 MB
USB Information: ℹ️
    Apple Inc. BRCM20702 Hub
        Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller
    Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)
    Apple, Inc. Keyboard Hub
        Apple Inc. Apple Keyboard
Thunderbolt Information: ℹ️
    Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus
Gatekeeper: ℹ️
    Anywhere
Kernel Extensions: ℹ️
        /Applications/Toast 11 Titanium/Spin Doctor.app
    [not loaded]    com.hzsystems.terminus.driver (4) [Click for support]
        /Library/Application Support/Symantec/AntiVirus
    [not loaded]    com.symantec.kext.SymAPComm (11.1.2f18) [Click for support]
        /System/Library/Extensions
    [not loaded]    com.Logitech.Control Center.HID Driver (2.4.0) [Click for support]
    [not loaded]    com.symantec.kext.internetSecurity (1.3.2f5) [Click for support]
    [not loaded]    com.symantec.kext.ips (3.2f8) [Click for support]
        /Users/[redacted]/Library/Services/ToastIt.service/Contents/MacOS
    [not loaded]    com.roxio.TDIXController (2.0) [Click for support]
Startup Items: ℹ️
    ProTec6b: Path: /Library/StartupItems/ProTec6b
    Startup items are obsolete in OS X Yosemite
Launch Agents: ℹ️
    [not loaded]    com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist [Click for support]
    [loaded]    com.adobe.CS5ServiceManager.plist [Click for support]
    [running]    com.symantec.uiagent.application.plist [Click for support]
    [not loaded]    com.teamviewer.teamviewer.plist [Click for support]
    [not loaded]    com.teamviewer.teamviewer_desktop.plist [Click for support]
Launch Daemons: ℹ️
    [loaded]    com.adobe.fpsaud.plist [Click for support]
    [loaded]    com.adobe.SwitchBoard.plist [Click for support]
    [loaded]    com.bombich.ccc.plist [Click for support]
    [loaded]    com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist [Click for support]
    [loaded]    com.symantec.avscandaemon.plist [Click for support]
    [running]    com.symantec.diskMountNotify.plist [Click for support]
    [failed]    com.symantec.MissedTasks.plist [Click for support]
    [loaded]    com.symantec.navapd.plist [Click for support]
    [loaded]    com.symantec.navapdaemonsl.plist [Click for support]
    [loaded]    com.symantec.Sched503-1.plist [Click for support]
    [loaded]    com.symantec.Sched505-3.plist [Click for support]
    [running]    com.symantec.sharedsettings.plist [Click for support]
    [running]    com.symantec.symdaemon.plist [Click for support]
    [failed]    com.symantec.symSchedDaemon.plist [Click for support]
    [not loaded]    com.teamviewer.teamviewer_service.plist [Click for support]
    [loaded]    de.meilenstein.MSTFirstRunInstaller.plist [Click for support]
User Launch Agents: ℹ️
    [loaded]    com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist [Click for support]
    [loaded]    com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist [Click for support]
    [failed]    com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist [Click for support] [Click for details]
    [loaded]    com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist [Click for support]
    [loaded]    com.google.keystone.agent.plist [Click for support]
    [loaded]    de.starface.STARFACE-Client.plist [Click for support]
    [running]    ws.agile.1PasswordAgent.plist [Click for support]
User Login Items: ℹ️
    Notizzettel    Programm Hidden (/Applications/Stickies.app)
    Adobe Reader    Programm (/Applications/Adobe Reader.app)
    Dropbox    Programm (/Applications/Dropbox.app)
    SpyderUtility    Programm (/Applications/Datacolor/Spyder4Pro/Support/SpyderUtility.app)
    PopChar    Programm (/Applications/PopChar.app)
    STARFACE Client    Programm (/Users/[redacted]/Desktop/STARFACE Client.app)
Internet Plug-ins: ℹ️
    Google Earth Web Plug-in: Version: 7.0 [Click for support]
    Default Browser: Version: 600 - SDK 10.10
    AdobeExManDetect: Version: AdobeExManDetect 1.1.0.0 - SDK 10.7 [Click for support]
    Flip4Mac WMV Plugin: Version: 3.2.0.16   - SDK 10.8 [Click for support]
    OfficeLiveBrowserPlugin: Version: 12.2.8 [Click for support]
    AdobePDFViewerNPAPI: Version: 10.1.5 [Click for support]
    FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 17.0.0.134 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]
    Silverlight: Version: 5.1.10411.0 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]
    Flash Player: Version: 17.0.0.134 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]
    QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3
    iPhotoPhotocast: Version: 7.0
    SharePointBrowserPlugin: Version: 14.4.8 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]
    AdobePDFViewer: Version: 10.1.5 [Click for support]
    JavaAppletPlugin: Version: 15.0.0 - SDK 10.10 Check version
User internet Plug-ins: ℹ️
    RealPlayer Plugin: Version: Unknown
Safari Extensions: ℹ️
    1Password
    ExifExt
Audio Plug-ins: ℹ️
    DVCPROHDAudio: Version: 1.2
3rd Party Preference Panes: ℹ️
    Flash Player [Click for support]
    Flip4Mac WMV [Click for support]
    Growl [Click for support]
    Norton\nQuickMenu [Click for support]
Time Machine: ℹ️
    Skip System Files: NO
    Mobile backups: OFF
    Auto backup: YES
    Volumes being backed up:
        Macintosh SSHD: Disk size: 499.42 GB Disk used: 248.10 GB
    Destinations:
        Backups [Network]
        Total size: 6.00 TB
        Total number of backups: 39
        Oldest backup: 2015-01-31 05:27:48 +0000
        Last backup: 2015-03-27 20:28:54 +0000
        Size of backup disk: Excellent
            Backup size 6.00 TB > (Disk size 499.42 GB X 3)
Top Processes by CPU: ℹ️
         5%    WindowServer
         0%    Dropbox
         0%    SymDaemon
Top Processes by Memory: ℹ️
    241 MB    Mail
    206 MB    Finder
    172 MB    Safari
    137 MB    Stickies
    137 MB    WindowServer
Virtual Memory Information: ℹ️
    29.20 GB    Free RAM
    2.79 GB    Active RAM
    721 MB    Inactive RAM
    1.64 GB    Wired RAM
    1.34 GB    Page-ins
    0 B    Page-outs
Diagnostics Information: ℹ️
    Mar 30, 2015, 06:58:02 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/deleted_2015-03-30-065802_[redacted].crash
    Mar 30, 2015, 06:55:24 AM    Self test - passed

First uninstall your antivirus. Use only a vendor-provided uninstaller or uninstallation instructions. Never remove files by hand. Never use an "app zapper".
If that doesn't fix it, take it back to Apple for service.

Flash player causes entire system crash with black screen

When watching a video on youtube, streaming on twitch or other things my entire system will crash with the following symptoms:
-Black Screen
-Intermittent stuttering sound
-Only fixable by a hard reboot (holding the power button). The reset button will NOT work. Video will NOT return, it will continue to loop this way until a hard reset.
Your Flash Version
11.9.900
Your browser name
Firefox
Your Operating System (OS)
Windows (Windows 7)
That information taken directly from Adobe's site. Using 64-bit, 8GB of RAM installed. ATI Radeon HD 6850 card. I have done a fresh Win 7 install a couple months ago and JUST NOW put flash back on here...now it's crashing. While times vary before the crash, I just watched a youtube video for less than 5 seconds before it happened.
Upon reboot, I get the "Windows was not shut down properly" message. No "Your system has recovered..." message, however. I've seen very few posts about this and none of the solutions help but this is REALLY pissing me off now. It happened to me before and the only fix was a fresh system install. I'm not doing that again.

Hi Mike,
I appreciate the reply. I can run the system for days, literally, doing other tasks such as music through iTunes, gaming through Steam, voice chatting on Ventrilo. The only time I will ever experience this issue will be the five minutes I watch a youtube video or watch a stream on Twitch..
My primary HD is a relatively new Intel SSD. I do have multiple other drives but they're used for storage of media (include aforementioned music).
I have been a youtuber and streamer for a while, and i'd like to try and record the phenominon, but i'll have to do so using an external camera since i'm not sure I can stop and save the recorded data. I'll have to do so I guess so I can give a better idea of the issue occuring.
Thanks again.

System crash with KT6 Delta

Hi,
I am new around here, so excuse the noobness
Anyway, i hope you guys can help me out here a bit.
So here goes :
I just purchased a MSI KT6 Delta mobo to replace my old SYK7V Dragon Plus mobo which died on me 2 days ago. Initial installation was ok, with these device installed :
1) AMD Athlon XP 2000+
2) Winfast Geforce 4 Ti 4200 64MB
3) Creative Audigy Soundcard
4) 2 HDD, C: (120GB, Partition to 2 10GB and 100GB) E: (40GB)
5) 2 x 256MB PC2100 (Crucial RAM)
6) Logitech USB Optical Mouse
7) Aztech ADSL Modem (906EU)
The above configuration work flawlessly with all memory timing, AGP option turn to the max.
The problem arise when i added a new NIC from 3Com, the model of the NIC is 3C905C-TX-M, a 10/100Base-T card. The problem i am now facing is intermitten crash, the PC will just freeze in the middle of an operation, if it is in Windows, the mouse will stop moving. If it is in a game, the sound will skip and repeat a few tone, the screen will freeze also.
I have already updated the following drivers for these device :
1) VIA Inf driver, the latest downloadble from http://www.viaarena.com
2) Geforce driver, latest downloadble from nvidia.com
3) Audigy driver, latest downloadble from crative website.
4) 3Com Nic driver, latest downloadble from 3Com website.
I suspect it could be my Soundcard crashing with the nic somehow, as it i happen to see some skipping sound after i installed the nic. I have tried changing the PCI latency from 36 up to 128, still no help. I tried moving my soundcard to different PCI slot, and still the problem persist. Do any of you guys have this sort of problem? Any idea at all?

Quote
Originally posted by Wonkanoby
12v would be very low if you had a newer vga card in there that feed of 12v as well as the cpu but as the 4600 loads and runs of 3.3 and 5 v that should be ok
Mind elaborating a bit? I am not very well versed in PSU terminology. All those are just number to me. They know me, but alas i don't know them. All i know is a bigger PSU would almost always means a better PSU. I am planning to get either a Ati 9600XT or a 9800 Pro/XT in about 2-3 months time. If it is indeed that i need a newer PSU, perhaps you can tell me what to look out for, since i may as well be buying a new PSU.
Also... the PC seems to be running in a stable condition. No more hanging or crashes. I have also changed some setting in AGP, so as to speed up some game play, and still no crashes. Changed setting on BIOS for AGP is :
AGP mode : 4x
AGP aperture : 256MB (I usually set em at half my system ram)
Fast Write : Enabled
AGP Master 1 W/S Write : Enabled
AGP Master 1 W/S Read : Enabled
AGP Read Synch : Enabled
Gaming performance has been increase noticably, no more jerkiness.
Also, i have found out that my NIC has a shared IRQ with my OHCI compliant 1394 IEEE Host Controller, so i disabled that. I am not using it anyway, no loss there.
I will be trying memory tweaking tomorrow and let you guys know if there any crashes. Memory timing now in BIOS is still relatively conservative. I'll let it run for a day and see if there any problem before i mess with the memory timings.
Thanks to the kind people who help me. Appreciate all the help from you all.

Desktop system crashing with "Projects."

Upgraded to OS X (10.10.3), installed new "Photos" and all is well until I try to use "Projects." Consistently getting system crash reports. Puts me back at my desktop. Ideas?? (did not sign up for iCloud Library Photo support)

Quote from: tcourchaine on 14-September-11, 02:59:59
I can't provide you guys with anything, it's been with this guy for over a month. I've been running with 6GB for the past 2 years with no problems until I dusted out the inside of the case. Obviously it aggravated the problem I had two years ago.
i agree, maybe that wasn't the solution. it was after all 2 years ago and my memory was fuzzy. After a month and a half with this guy I got my comp back today. He reinstalled windows 7 and updated the BIOS. That helped out a lot, but it still froze twice, and reset it's self once with 6GB RAM in it. I took the 3rd RAM stick out, givign me 4GB, and noticed that my graphics drivers weren't updated yet, so maybe that was the reason for the crashes? I'm not so sure about that either though, because after I updated the GPU drivers it froze not too long after that. Maybe I needed to reboot for the drivers to take full effect? it didn't prompt me to restart, so I'm a little uncertain there.
I was thinking of trying it with 6GB RAM again, now that my graphics drivers are up to speed and the system has been rebooted.

GT70 2QD system crash with FANS running at 100% on external monitor only

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