GT70 Dominator Occasional Short Lag (Gameplay Continues But Sound Stops?)

Hello. Just wanted to say that this is a great laptop overall. But soemthing's been bugging me.
Every so often, games seem to have trouble loading certain things. When I play Payday 2, for example, the computer seems to wait a few seconds before actually showing items in the inventory. Also, sometimes during games, the sound cuts out, then plays audio that was supposed to play before the sound cut out. I have not been able to pinpoint a thread with my issue, so I hope that it is fixable. I can try to post a video of my issue if need be.
Please help?

No no nononono I don't see $200-$400 as "inexpensive". I'm already in the hole around $1400 and I'm getting barely $35 a week. I'm already pushing the limit as it is, even more so spending under $100 on another hard drive.
HOWEVER!
I did some research into this particular brand of HDD and it seems that they are known for drives that go to sleep after an extremely short amount of time (most say around 30 seconds, a few even say eight seconds). A user (shinhikari) even posted a possible solution:
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I've tried The Crystal Disk Info utility and I think it's the best workaround we have right now... Set the APM to 80h and the drive won't spin down... The latest Crystal Disk Utility has the option to set APM automatically... so whenever you re-plug the HDD, it will automatically set the APM to 80h... That's it... this solve my problem and I don't think WD is coming up with a solution... so this is your best bet...
Okay here what I did,
Set the program to run on start up and be a resident:
Function -> Resident (ticked)
Function -> StartUp (ticked)
Set the APM from 60H to 80H:
Function -> Advance Feature -> AAM/APM Control -> Choose your WD drive from the dropdown menu -> set APM to 80h
Set the program to automatically set APM to 80h:
Function -> Advance Feature -> Auto AAM/APM Adaptation (ticked)
And lastly, set the program to auto detect newly connected drive:
Function -> Advance Feature -> Auto Dectection -> 30sec (you can make this faster if you want)
That's it... I hope this solve your problem as well
And here is the APM value as stated by Crystal Disk Info utility...
00h Reserved
01h Minimum power consumption with Standby
02h-7Fh Intermediate power management levels with Standby
80h Minimum power consumption without Standby
81h-FDh Intermediate power management levels without Standby
FEh Maximum performance
FFh Reserved
So I think you can set the APM value to other value as needed...
In my opinion, if you are a heavy user, you can safely stay at 80h or above, it eliminate the need for the drive to go into standby... this logically reduce the mechanical wear of the drive...
But if you are not, you might want to set up the APM to 7FH or below... so it will still go into standby but after a longer idle time (not just a silly 8 seconds!)... I haven't tested this... but it is supposed to do as I think
Anyway do it at your own risk okay... I don't want to be held responsible
I have yet to test this out, but I'm feeling optimistic this time.

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Ive posted this on the 'workstation' section, as it would fit better there, but my laptop is technically the gaming. So, yes it is a double post one in each forum.
Wanted to know if my laptop was good for rendering, if there were any tips or tricks for using my laptop for video editing, or any tips or tricks for using vegas pro 13 in general. Newbie to this program, normally use cyberlink powerdirector 12.
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So what I see is that gpu rendering preferred options but render cpu only, uses some gpu but more cpu, and gives faster results, than total gpu rendering with more gpu power and less cpu.
Shouldn't gpu rendering be far quicker than cpu? I know my cpu is good, but thought that the 880m would definitely beat it out in rendering.

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Normally I would like to say this is very good choice, but since MSI have real workstation, I recommend you check below link to find the real machine for OpenGL graphics works!!
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I know you probably saw this chart
I saw it to, which in the very beginning of my laptop search I thought I had found the perfect laptop. But after reading user forums, talking to/with people first hand, then watching some you tube showing side by side 780m vs 3100m rendering. I decided that until I could get the 4100m at a decent price, the 880m would suite me well.
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heres a 2 year old maya comparison. While this one is a little off. I found one a few weeks ago that was perfect and I really should've short cutted it. But for maya and solid works, the geoforce is either right behind or right ahead for speed. But when it comes to quality, the quaddro's cant be touched.
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Yes you probably need BIOS too to work with newest EC.
But tell what are your current BIOS and EC versions 1st,
look for them in BIOS setup system information

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