GT70 - Win7 / Win8 BIOS - Confused + Questions

I tried posting this in the BIOS forum but I didn't get any responses. I'm not sure if I should have posted here first.
I have a GT70 Dominator Pro 890. It came with Windows 8.1 preinstalled. I don't want Windows 8.1; I'll be blanking the hard drive and installing Windows 7.
Since this computer has separate Windows 7 and Windows 8 BIOS's available for download, this leads me to think that I need to change the BIOS from the "Windows 8" version to the "Windows 7" version. But there seems to be conflicting information on the Internet about this. Some posts say you can and should do it, others say you can't and shouldn't do it.
So, my questions are:
1) Should I be changing / flashing the BIOS from the "Windows 8" version to the "Windows 7" version for running Windows 7, and
2) If not, should I continue to upgrade with the "Windows 8" BIOS version, even though I'm running Windows 7, and
3) Will Windows 7 have any issues or not run right since the computer is running the "Windows 8" BIOS version?
I *am* using two SATA drives in mirror RAID mode.
The other thing that confuses me, is how (even for each Win7 / Win8 BIOS version), there are again two different versions.
In the case of the GT70 Dominator 890 Pro, there is a version "50" for "WIN8 Default AHCI Mode", and version "70" for "WIN8 Default RAID Mode" (and a version 30 and a version 10 for the same two modes for Windows 7).
Wouldn't the Default AHCI mode or Default RAID mode be something that the user specifies in the BIOS? Why would there need to be a totally separate BIOS version for these two different modes? (I thought RAID already has AHCI enabled?)
Having four BIOS versions for the same computer is pretty distressing considering that I might brick it by installing the wrong one.

Quote from: AllNight on 08-May-14, 17:03:50
I tried posting this in the BIOS forum but I didn't get any responses. I'm not sure if I should have posted here first.
You won't get always immediatelly response, + don't open new topics for the same subject
>>Please read and comply with the Forum Rules.<<
i've just deleted your 1st topic that you opened earlier, since you opened a new one duplicate here.
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1) Should I be changing / flashing the BIOS from the "Windows 8" version to the "Windows 7" version for running Windows 7, and
2) If not, should I continue to upgrade with the "Windows 8" BIOS version, even though I'm running Windows 7, and
3) Will Windows 7 have any issues or not run right since the computer is running the "Windows 8" BIOS version?
to 1: No
to 2: Yes
to 3: Should be fine
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I *am* using two SATA drives in mirror RAID mode.
The other thing that confuses me, is how (even for each Win7 / Win8 BIOS version), there are again two different versions.
In the case of the GT70 Dominator 890 Pro, there is a version "50" for "WIN8 Default AHCI Mode", and version "70" for "WIN8 Default RAID Mode" (and a version 30 and a version 10 for the same two modes for Windows 7).
Wouldn't the Default AHCI mode or Default RAID mode be something that the user specifies in the BIOS? Why would there need to be a totally separate BIOS version for these two different modes? (I thought RAID already has AHCI enabled?)
Having four BIOS versions for the same computer is pretty distressing considering that I might brick it by installing the wrong one.
what is your current stock bios version?

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1. But which one do I have now? Is it the Win7 or Win8 version? I only know the number that I wrote above... Could you tell me which one to choose?
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(1) Has anyone experienced an issue with the rear panel e-sata connections not working after the 1.4 bios update? The "front panel" connection still works, but not those on the rear panel.
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(2) Why does the English language site only show bios versions 1.2 and 1.3 for download? I had to get my 1.4 from a German language site if my memory serves me.
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(3) If 1.4 is STILL in beta, any idea what is taking so long to make it official (maybe this e-sata problem, as well as other problems)?
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as well as other problems
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I expected more frequent bios revisions (i.e., better support) than what I've seen so far.
Again, there have already been 11 BETA Releases since the v1.3 final release. These BETA Releases address numerous problems. If you have any specific BIOS related problems that have not been addressed so far, then you need to contact MSI Technical Support and report the problem that needs fixing. MSI Technical Support does not have a crystal ball. Stop expecting and do communicate: ---> http://support.msi.com/
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(4) Sometimes, when I was using 1.3, my computer would freeze and throw an "02" code...which isn't in the manual (this was my reason for trying 1.4). Any ideas?
Again, there is no v1.4 version yet. Be more specific about which version you are actually using. The main question is if you are still having this issue with v1.4b"whatever" or not.

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svet
i have problem with my MSI GT70 laptop
this is my problem it like this case of user grimmy311 forum.notebookreview.com/msi/658595-official-msi-gt60-gt70-owners-lounge-71.html
but my ssd is vertex 4 128 gb
svet you can help me to do the custom bios for fix this problem .
Let me know if you can do it, I will provide a donation in advance.
thank you
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Quote from: jo5353 on 21-June-12, 05:14:51
now u got it donate?
Yes, i received it.
Tell me what's your current BIOS version, look in BIOS setup, system information

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