GTX 650 Video Card Incompatible with h8-1420t?

I took delivery of an Envy h8-1420t a few weeks ago. It came with a Radeon HD 7670 graphics card. I would like to add a bit more horsepower in the graphics processing department, andI upgraded to a 575w Thermaltake Toughpower XT power supply accordingly. My new video card is an MSI GTX 650 (http://us.msi.com/product/vga/N650-MD1GD5-OC.html), and on paper is compatible with both the power supply and HP Formosa motherboard.
Unfortunately, the card refuses to output video when I install it. I have verified that the card is working. Any ideas as to what the issue could be? I'm guessing it's some sort of motherboard incompatibility, but am wondering if anyone else has had similiar issues. The GTX 660 is optional equipment when ordering this rig, and if that works I don't see why this wouldn't.

Is this the monitor?
I take it both ends of the cable look like this.
I apologize ahead of time for asking this, but I want to verify the basics.
Was the 4-pin power connector on the motherboard connected to the power supply? It is located above the PCIe slot and next to the processor slot. This is to power the processor, so no video would be available if this was not connected.
Honestly, the symptoms aren't lining up. I know the PC is not at fault as there are no restrictions in place.
Both DVI ports (monitor and new video card) appear to be DVI-D, so analog/digital is not very likely.
I take it the cable is known to be good as it worked with the stock video card.
Are there any beep codes? You probably would have mentioned this had you heard any, but I want to be certain.
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