GTX 680 Lightning very slow

Hello there,
I'm stuck with the installation of the graphic card MSI GTX 680 Lightning, which is very, very slow. For sake of comparison, it does not score even 9000 in 3D Mark, while my previous Radeon 5770 reached 17000 without any problem.
I tried several actions:
Remove drivers with drive sweeper under safe mode.
Installed updated drivers.
Reinstalled Win 7 64 bits
None of that make any difference. If I return to the previous card, the system works well again.
My PC is:
Processor: Intel Quad Core i7-960 (chipset Intel X58 (Tylersburg 36S) + ICH10R)
Mobo: XFX MB-X58I-CH19
Memory: 12 GB (Kingston 4096 MB PC3-10600 DDR3 SDRAM triple channel)
HDs: SATA 3 Gb/s SAMSUNG HD321KJ and SATA 6 Gb/s ST2000DL003-9VT166
PSU: Corsair TX850
Operational System: Windows 7 64 bits Ultimate
Graphic card: MSI N680GTX Lightning 2 GB GDDR5 PCI-E 3
Does anybody have any idea on what should I do to make it work?
Could it be some incompatibility with my mobo?
Best regards,
Antonio Intini

Quote from: xmad on 01-October-12, 08:19:48
What does gpuz say? (Can you post a screen shot)
Have you installed Afterburner? Is it throttling or anything when using kombuster?
Can you upload a copy of your vbios somewhere for svet to take a look?
<<<NVFLASH>>>
with syntax from cmd:
nvflash -b myrom.rom [ENTER]
then upload myrom.rom somewhere and give a link to it
Are you using the newest applicable bios for your mobo? (Since the booting is an issue this may be easy)
**EDIT: I have been having issue with LUCID MVP since I installed my 680 (not lightning though) I am not sure if that mobo is equiped, might want to try uninstalling if it is and see if it is better.
Hello Xmad,
I updated my BIOS today with the latest file from XFX. Good news: the processor speed is now OK, though SM2 and SM3 in 3dMark are still bad:
Overall score: 11715 (target 19200, but it was not above 8000 before the BIOS update)
SM2 score: 3791 (target 7300)
SM3 score: 5530 (target 10000)
CPU score: 4836 (target 4700) -> great!
I tried to use NVFlash, but it does not run in Win 7 64bits - do you have a version for 64 bits?
Apparently the graphic card works well with Kombustor benchmarkings:
[img=http://s6.postimage.org/6fpb88del/Kombustor_P1599.jpg]
Any suggestion of a next step?

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« Reply #1 on: Today at 09:11:58 »
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