GTX 680 to be adobe certified?

I have two GTX 680s, and subscribed to creative cloud to take advatnage of these SLI'd badboys....
No software as far as I know lets me use the cuda cores... Question;
if they will, when?
How do I set it up if it already is supported?
will i see a big difference?
I'm running;
i7 2600k - liquid cooled
16GB RAM
2TB scratch disk in RAID 0
SLI GTX 680 x2
2 27" monitors in 1080P

use the nVidia Hack http://forums.adobe.com/thread/629557 - which is a simple entry in a "supported cards" file
Adobe does not support SLI... and it may, in fact, cause problems
Dual Card SLI http://forums.adobe.com/thread/872941
-problem http://forums.adobe.com/thread/872103

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  • Adobe's site not showing Nvidia GTX 680 as officially supported

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    (2) Interlaced video encoding is NOT supported.  (I couldn't get this to work; I think it's a GPU-driver issue.)  
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  • Nvidia GTX 680 or K5000

    I am working with After Effects CS6 (after June2013 hopefully CC), Premiere Pro CS6 (after June2013 hopefully CC) and Cinema 4D.
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    I've installed the  NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 2048 MB on a Mac Pro 3,2 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon running OSX 10.9.4 but it seems AE doesn't take advantage of the new hardware and the CUDA technology. The ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024 MB mounted before, went for the same rendering times. Am I missing any setting in the software or isn't the graphic card the perfect choice for fastening my rendering processes?
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  • GTX 580 3GB or GTX 680 2GB

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    IMO, you currently have the following options, including the announced but not yet available 4 GB versions of the 680:
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    2. Step up to the 680 2 GB for steering a third monitor, but with the risk of running out of VRAM with RED or EPIC material and thus the reduction to software mode only.
    3. Step up to the 680 4 GB for steering a third monitor without the risk of software mode fallback.
    4. Take a gamble that the 685/690 with a 384 bit memory bus may be announced in the near future (not likely).
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  • Why is the Nvidia GTX 680 CUDA card supported by Premiere Pro CC, and NOT After Effects CC?

    Why is the Nvidia GTX 680 CUDA card supported by Premiere Pro CC, and NOT After Effects CC?

    Thanks Todd for all the info.  It is much appreciated and very helpful.  On a different note, could you possibly direct me to the correct forum to fix this bug?  I am suddenly recieving a warning on my System SSD referencing Adobe Exchange.  Here is a screen grab to best explain:

  • Gtx 680 vs two gtx 570?

    I don't think I have enough inform to make a informed decision...
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    You're looking for a simple answer that doesn't exist. In both scenarios the potential speed gains will be at best 10-15% compared to a single GTX 570/580 or whatever, which, given the overall slowness of the raytracing stuff is marginal, for all intents and purposes. A 680 may fare a bit better while you work - it is, after all, newer and more optimized - but that advantage may still evaporate when you crank up the quality for final rendering and enable DOF, motion blur and all those costly features. And as I said many times: I wouldn't base any purchasing decisions on CS6' 3D. All comparisons where people brag about rendering 5 seconds of some simple text animation in an hour make me go "So what? I've been doing that the last 10 years in my 3D programs." So in all fairness, as far as I'm concerned, you are looking to solve a very specific need on the wrong end using the wrong means. You can have much more fun using Video CoPilot's Element or a 3D program and neither will impose those outrageous hardware requiremnts to work their magic. If you feel you still need that raytrace stuff, then personally I'd settle for a single GTX570/580 right now. The simple truth is that a half year from now there will be much better Keppler-based cards than a costly GTX 680 and Adobe may even care to support them then, so you'd regret spending a lot of money for nothing. And did I mention that Element will burn like crazy on a GTX 580 in which you could invest the money saved in the process?
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  • GeForce GTX 680 Mac Edition Graphics Card advice wanted 2008 Mac Pro. Eight core desktop.

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    I'm looking forward to this.
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    - SUA2200 units are rated for 1980 watts but they are VERY heavy. I used to have both a APC UPS 2200 and 3000 model and got tired of the man-handling that is required to lift or move the bulk.
    - APC SmartUPS units are very expensive new, but very affordable on CraigsList. I picked up two SUA1500 units that looked like new but were 3 to 5 years old and there batteries were completely shot - one was $60, the other $75. eBay has them too, but shipping is pretty high because they are so heavy. New batteries are just under $200.
    - I only have SUA units; APC replaced this line with "LCD" SmartUPS models about a year ago. I don't recommend used SmartUPS models that do not have a USB connection for your PC. First of all serial ports are not compatible with most new PCs and more importantly these units could be REALLY old (6-10+ years old).
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    Jim

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