GTX 780 Gaming Edition, PCB custom or not?
Ok so i was planing to buy this gpu, but then i saw 3 reviews and all showed stock pcb, no military class pwm, mosfets, caps etc.. Why so?
Now i saw a shop that could have proper pics with custom pcb., but then again it looked like it was copied from MSI GTX780 GE/OC page
Shop Pic (short pcb)
http://eu.msi.com/product/vga/N780-TF-3GD5-OC.html
Review, (default stock 780GTX long pcb)
same at guru3d review or newegg.com shop
http://www.altesc.net/2013/06/26/msi-gtx-780-gaming-review/
back custom pcb (short)
http://videocardz.com/42609/msi-geforce-gtx-780-twin-frozr-gaming-oc-edition-pictured-up-close
back review pcb (longer)
yes 1st front picture is from MSI site - 780GTX with short pcb.
http://eu.msi.com/product/vga/N780-TF-3GD5-OC.html
2nd front picture is what all reviewers got (3 so far).
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its standard/reference PCB with special components on it [Solid CAPs,New SFC,Hi-c CAP]
Not according to Altesc.com and guru3d back picture (right stock 780gtx) with missing 2 PWM just like by stock 780gtx..
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special components are there,[military class 4] but visually they looks near the same as reference card,
he took gpu apart and underneath stock VRM/PWM,... R22,..
http://www.altesc.net/2013/06/26/msi-gtx-780-gaming-review/
http://extrahardware.cnews.cz/recenze/msi-geforce-gtx-780-gaming-rychla-chladna-extremne-ticha-vyhodna/strana/0/1
btw I know how custom SFC, mosfet looks like - I own MSI 570GTX TFIII Power Edition OC
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else the PCB is reference and there is no special PWM on it
Yes that's exactly what this is, at least by all 3 reviews..
So why promote it if its not there, i guess MSI was in a hurry and didnt sent full custom? Will retail be custom like on MSI page or not?
Well im thinking of buying it soon and custom pcb PWM plays a big part for me. More then cooling.
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Decompress the provided .rar archive with Winrar: http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm
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912-V298-002
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Hello,
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I just bought/installed a MSI GTX 780 graphics card. I have uninstalled my previous driver (clean uninstall) and installed the current driver. Everything seems to be just fine, except for one issue...
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UEFI/GOP vBios for my N780 TF 3GD5/OC (MSI GeForce GTX 780 TF GAMING)
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MSI GTX 780 Gaming OC Edition rises 96º, is it normal?
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CPU-z captures (delete the breaks):
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Hi,
Could you please share GOP / UEFI Vbios for my gpu and provide some basic steps how to flash it?
S/N: 602-V284-46SB1307038723
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Thanks.Quote from: xmad on 05-October-13, 01:33:11
Are you able to use win 8 mode with onboard or unable to use the card at all?
Yes, and it boots instantly.
Quote from: xmad on 05-October-13, 01:33:11
Here is the latest bios for the mainboard as well:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=170132.msg1260345#msg1260345
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UEFI/GOP Vbios Request: MSI GeForce GTX 760 Gaming Edition
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Could anyone provide a Vbios for this card?
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All the best and keep up the good work.Quote from: xmad on 01-October-13, 02:28:39
Looks like you will need to contact MSI and see if there are any unlisted updates. The only UEFI bios for the 46s is the one Svet posted.
>>How to contact MSI.<<
Have you flashed the mainboard's bios to the most recent version?
I contacted MSI support team and here is the answer:
"sorry. MSI did not release that card(602-V284-46Sxxxx) UEFI BIOS, so we do not kown this BIOS GK104.rom if appropriate to your graphics card,so we suggest you update the original BIOS."
They do not wan't to help me because I haven't got the official version of uefi bios. How could that be even possible? Was the bios that you sent me the official one (from MSI) or the modified one?
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Vbios request MSI GTX 780 Gaming
I have two of the same cards and I'm wondering if there is a vbios update for them
Card 1 -
S/N 602-v298-050B1403114792
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Card 2 -
S/N 602-v298-070b1403016802
bios version - 80.80.21.00.75 (P2083-0021)
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Bios 2 link
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32016390/GK110_2.rom
My system is GOP / UEFI Vbios ready so if that's what you suggest I use then I will
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Then flash the included file with Nvflash for dos: http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/nvflash_download.html
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Vbios request MSI GTX 780 Gaming OC
Good day.
My S/N 602-V298-03SB1307013274
My BIOS in attachment. Please send me a UEFI / GOP Vbios.Next time please open an own topic for your own request. This time I split your post off.
Use the attached vbios.
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Then flash the included file with Nvflash for dos: http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/nvflash_download.html
To do so rename the included file to .rom and create a dos bootstick (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=165175.0)
Put nvflash and the vbios file on it and boot from the stick. Then type nvflash -4 -5 -6 gop.rom (if renamed vbios that way) and hit enter. Confirm the questions and let the tool flash. -
Z77A-GD65 issues with Geforce GTX 780 Video Card
Hey Guys,
I have a issue with a new PC build.
I think it may be a driver or BIOS setting issue, I hope
I bought a MSI Z77A-GD65 motherboard and below are the specs:
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My problem is with the Geforce GTX 780 video card, I installed a fresh install of Windows 7 64 bit and
everything runs and works fine,but when i install the Geforce GTX 780 video card and install the
drivers its all good up to this point but when i restart the computer i get this message in the device
manager ""Windows has stopped this device because it has reported problems (code 43)"
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outcome.
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boot up, so i had to revert back to the v10.8 BIOS version for it to work.
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I'm stumped here, do you guys know of a Geforce driver version that works well with this video card?
I truely think the card is fine because when i install the card to the motherboard i dont get any weird
issues until the driver is installed and Windows is restarted.
I would greatly appreciate any help and advise that you guys can give me.
Thanks alotUPDATE
Well i wanted to post an update on my new build issue.
Here are my specs:
I bought a MSI Z77A-GD65 motherboard with BIOS v10.8
- Intel Core i7-2600 CPU 3.4 Ghz
- BIOS Version E4451IMS V10.8 (i had a issue with the newest BIOS flash v10.11 it wouldn't detect the harddrive, could figure that one out so i went back to v10.8)
- Balistix Sport 8GB sticks (Total of 32 GB memory installed) I first had 3 sticks so i got another 8GB stick to fill all 4 banks for total of 32 GB
- Corsair Professional Series 860 Watt Digital ATX/EPS Modular 80 PLUS Platinum Power Supply AX860i (Bought this PS to replace the Kentek PS)
- N780 TF 3GD5/OC (GeForce GTX 780 GAMING) (traded Geforce GTX 780 card for the MSI version of the GTX 780 card)
OK... I got the new Corsair 860w power supply installed and i installed the new MSI GTX 780 video card with the specs above everything installed fine no problems and my son was playing the Bio Shock Infinite game on Steam and about 1 hour into the game he got a blue screen of death, says something like "to prevent damage windows is now resetting" and it turns off so fast can't read the rest of the message.
I'm going to here in a little bit and update all device drivers with MSI Live update utility and also update the motherboard BIOS again to v10.11.
I'm really confused here, I'm also going to take out some memory and try to run it with sticks only in slot 2 & 4 to see if it runs more stable like that, also should i update the video card to the latest driver, i know the latest is not always the greatest driver.
I want to think you guys again for your help & time with this issue. I really dont know what else to do here, everything is new in this PC.
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