GTX 970 FPS Issues

Hi there,
I just recently upgraded from Gtx550ti to Msi Gtx970 Gaming 4G. It was working fine for a couple of weeks then I started having problems with FPS and I have no idea what was the cause. I'm pretty sure that it can play smoothly World of Warcraft on Ultra settings without any hiccups or fps drops. I already tried lowering the settings but still dropping from 120FPS to 10-15FPS (Vsync Disabled). I also tried upgrading my Motherboard's Bios but it didn't help at all, did a full scan of anti virus and made sure that my graphic card's software is up to date. I need help :( not sure if this is a faulty one or am I missing anything?
Thanks in advance!
Specs:
Intel Core i5 - 2320 Sandy Bridge 3.0Ghz
Motherboard - Gigabyte B75M-D3H
RAM - 2X 4GB 1X 8GB Kingston 667
PSU - 750W

Quote from: Nichrome on 01-May-15, 01:01:48
Hi
The benchmark is ok in my opinion, especially because you have pretty old system. Your old 550Ti might have been using full potential of itself and CPU, but this one is limited by the CPU.
Are you able to test the card elsewhere?
What is your power supply exactly?
And what if you try with single 1x8GB of RAM?
What games you played so far? Is it just WoW or anything else is affected too?
Howdy!
Power Supply is 750W Thermaltake
I will try that 1x8GB of RAM for sure.
I've played BF4, Diablo 3 and GW2, AC Unity with Ultra Settings and WoW seems to be the only one that has problems. I will try to mess up with the settings too and see if that helps.

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GTX 970 Fan Issue

Hi,
I have been looking around at the forum for some time now, to see if anyone else had the same issue as me.
My problem: When my GTX 970 Gaming 4G gets 59 degrees the fan turns on and goes to 100%. But the fanes never turns down again before a reboot. GPU-Z and MSI afterburner says that the fans are on 0%, but I can hear and see them insite my pc and they are at the max fan speed possible.
What I have tried so far: I tried to re-install my PC --> Test the card in another pc --> Tried with an older Nvidia driver --> Updated the VBios
S/N 602-v316-09sb1411001399
Vbios 84.04.2F.00.F1

Hi,
You have to RMA the card... hardware issue, not software.
>>How to contact MSI.<<

GTX 970 Fan Issue Part Two

Hello,
i am new to the forum but i followed the first threat every day since my MSI 970 GTX Card has the issue with the fans (one is at 100% and one does not move)
I found that the threat is closed, i think that this is a shame. I want to quote:
"Nichrome"
Enough of flaming on MSI
>>Please read and comply with the Forum Rules.<<
If you have an issue mentioned in this topic with your 970 or 980, RMA it. (My word, RMA is a simple way, who pays me as i cannot use the pc in this time ??)
If you can't understand that MSI is unable (or was) to reproduce the issue, then we can't do anything about it. Also note that MSI has lots of different things to do, not just fixing 970 fan issue.
Any updates will be posted by Mods/Admins here.----End of quote."
WOW !!!! MSI has a lot different things to do ?
And what, please ? The GTX970 is as new as a card could be. And MSI has different things to do as fixing errors ? WHAT ????????????? WHAT HAS MSI TO DO ???
I think you must be kidding. I am sorry that my first post is full of angry but if MSI has other things to do as fixing an error from a brand new product, what for the heck are these things ???? (fixing errors on a Geforce 8800 or else, oh yeah, that is really important !!)
I have contact with my reseller and i will get ( i hope still 2014 ) a new card, hopefully without errors.
But the statemant of MSI is, simple to say, not enough.
Greets

Quote from: Nichrome on 06-November-14, 20:23:34
Very upsetting?
Explain me one thing: how can you fix something if it's not broken? If they can't get the issue, then they can't investigate. Please stop behaving like you're 5 years old that don't understand a thing. Unless you are 5 years old, then it seems that your parents should speak to us or MSI instead of you.
That's not nice is it. Yes he might be being a little melodramatic. But to then insult him by calling him a child? You should not be insulting people. Whether this is a user to user forum or not, the forum uses the MSI brand which should encourage even more so a kinder approach to customers using the forum. In my humble opinion of course.
Customers are unhappy. It would be wise to note that the reaction of MSI, this forum, the fan troubles are all being widely discussed and documented all over the web. MSI's reputation is not always being viewed in a good light. Surely we should be trying to mindful and where possible improve that.
Also, the view that in some shape or form its the customers fault for buying hardware early isn't one I share, nor should it imo be viewed as acceptable. I have always bought early release gpu's and never had any issue in the past 20 years from a hardware perspective. I will freely admit that these 2 x 980's of mine are my very first purchases of MSI though.
I actually quite like my MSI 980's, though it is looking likely that they may require a vbios update to rectify the fan spin up issue being currently investigated by Nvidia. It would have been nice to know that this was being investigated by MSI too. Is that enough to put me off MSI again? Not really. But my perception of MSI has changed and think things could be handled better.
TL;DR MSI could do better at maintaining customer relations.

MOVED: MSI GTX 970 GAMING 4G - Fans not spinning

This topic has been moved to GAMING Graphics Cards.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=251859.0

First of all don't hijack other topics next time please. The one you posted in was not related to your question about the fan issue but the normal fans off feature below 60°C. Your thread has been split off.
The issue is fixed in later batches and everyone with a card affected by the issue with one fan not starting at all had been adviced to rma the card as there is no fix for existing cards. The Fans Randomly Turning On issue has been fixed with a vbios update.
The thread you meant by the way has been continued in another topic.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=184604.0 (GTX 970 Fan Issue Part Two)
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=184740.0 (Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue)

MSI GTX 970 GAMING 4G - Fans not spinning question

Hi there.
I've read several post in this forum about fan issues with the 970 & 980 platform, as well as complaints regarding coil whine in a handful of hardware blogs.
As this threadhttps://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=183618.msg1317790#msg1317790 was closed at the beginning of November and hasn’t seen an update or further clarification, I wanted to ask what the status of MSI's investigation on the discussed problems is. Are they solved in the newer batches (and if so, how could I spot a new revision of these cards), or are fan & coil whine problems still present to this day?
I already ordered a GTX 970 4G, but became so unsure of my decision through these issues not being declared as officially solved, that I ultimately cancelled it.
Looking forward hearing back from you.
Best,
T

First of all don't hijack other topics next time please. The one you posted in was not related to your question about the fan issue but the normal fans off feature below 60°C. Your thread has been split off.
The issue is fixed in later batches and everyone with a card affected by the issue with one fan not starting at all had been adviced to rma the card as there is no fix for existing cards. The Fans Randomly Turning On issue has been fixed with a vbios update.
The thread you meant by the way has been continued in another topic.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=184604.0 (GTX 970 Fan Issue Part Two)
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=184740.0 (Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue)

Gtx 970 bad fps all of a sudden

my gpu was fine up until yesterday, i thought it was just the hardline beta but i tried battlefield 4 and im still getting really bad fps, i can only get 45 fps when i was getting 90+ on ultra before, what could be the issue.

Quote from: arronlowley on 10-February-15, 17:59:19
i was gonna get a new psu anyway, but i dont think thats the problem, firestrike test came back fine when my fps was low, i found someone on the nvidia forum with my exact same problem as me and the driver change worked for them too, i haven't tested it for long enough yet to deffo say its fixed but im about to do that now. also the h55 is enough to cool the i7, under load the max i get is 50 degrees, usually around 44. when i was getting low fps i looked and there was nothing unusual about the temps etc, it was just like the gpu was capped at 60 fps but dipping to 55 but after changing the drivers it shot back up.
Could have been a malfunction in driver then. Which is kind of weird since I'm using the driver 347.25 and have no problems with my fps. (GTX 970 Gaming 4G)
Probably just bad/corrupt installation.

GTX 970 4G gaming issues

Hey all,
I just picked this awesome card up yesterday and figured to give it a try in BF4. I made sure all the drivers were updated with Nvidia Experience and that everything was set to go. I set all the graphics settings in the game to ultra and began to play. Every 5-15 seconds my fps goes from roughly 80-60 down to 0, it freezes my screen for about a second then the fps jumps back up. It will do that or have a decrease of 20-40 fps then it'll go back up. I wasn't sure what was causing it, so I lowered my settings to "Low" just to see what it would do. I still get a stuttering, but not a total freeze. When it's not doing this it performs beyond my wildest dreams.
What could be causing this and what could I try to fix it?
Here's a link to my rom: hxxps://www.dropbox.com/sh/segf4dbqkd1ix6t/AABM8sRxkB3j-B-h0pGgqL-ra?dl=0
Serial number: 602-V316-09SB1410040906
System specs: Intel i7-3770 (OC'd to 4.1ghz)
Ram: 8gb 1886mhz
HD: 500gb Black WD
Cooling: Corsair H100i
Display: Viewsonic IPS display
Graphics: MSI GTX-970 4G

I see you're running GSkills.
Run Memtest and see if it reports any issues.
Also try playing game(s) without any OC (CPU+RAM). CPU back to stock clocks, RAM down to 1600MHz. Might be helpful to clear CMOS: >>Clear CMOS Guide<<
Note down your OC settings so you don't have to "dig" for these again after setting BIOS back to defaults.
Are you able to test different PSU?
Could you also try running some benchmark?
What are the temps of the GPU and CPU under load?
What resolution are you running at, and what video cable do you use?
And I suggest you try updating your BIOS to the latest BETA if above doesn't help:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=163874.msg1300708#msg1300708

MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G Issues & BIOS Update

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Hello,
ever since I bought my GTX 970 I've had about 5 BSOD's while playing CS:GO and GTA:V. I am not sure whether it's a GPU issue or not, but I never had that issue before (at least with CS:GO).
Tech specs:
MB: z87-pro
CPU: i7-4770K
GPU: MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G
OS: Win7 x64 SP1
latest OS updates
latest nVidia drivers
I've been wondering if there's a BIOS update for my GPU? I also tried just today to download MSI Live Update 6 but after executing the installer it displays "This application does not support this platform."
I've attached my GPU Bios.
Thanks in advance!

Quote from: Nichrome on 26-April-15, 03:21:48
Hi
With LiveUpdate, don't worry. Many users got issue with it, I believe MSI is aware of this already.
Is your motherboard running latest BIOS?
Is it known to work fine with other graphics card??
Do you have any OC on your CPU/RAM? (RAM OC=more than 1600MHz). Remove and try again.
What did the BSOD say? Error code?
Heya, thanks for the reply.
That's good to know for Live Update, just wanted to let you know. Before my GTX970 I was using an Asus GTS 450 (I know, lame) and used integrated graphics a couple of times but never had BSOD's during games with either of those. I didn't take a note of the BSOD error code, can I find a log somewhere on my system to upload it?
OC-wise everything is running on stock clock, BIOS is also latest version (2103, according to Asus).

GTX 970 3.5 Ram issue

So we have now had it confirmed that the specification of the 970 GTX was wrong. These specifications were released by Nvidia and these were the specifications printed on the box of my MSI Gaming 970 4G. Namely that card has 4G of Vram running on a 256 bit bus. In reality we now know that only 7/8th (3.5G) of the 4G vram operates at the expected 224 Gb/sec memory bandwidth. We also know that the cards performance will seriously degrade in scenarios where a game tries to access that last 0.5G of vram.
Games increasingly used up more Vram when using high res texture packs. Also running higher resolutions and sli profiles require much more Vram and can easily exceed 3.5G.
What are MSI's thoughts on this issue?
The new MSI 970 Me100 editions, is this a true 4G card or will it also be limited to an effective memory pool of 3.5G??

Quote from: Airjarhead on 01-February-15, 07:13:57
Sure, Nvidia, MSI, EVGA, Asus, etc. mislead us with the whole 3.5GB+512MB issue, but I don't think it was an egregious lie. It was more a marketing issue. After all, it is 4GB of total RAM, it just doesn't function as we would expect 4GB to function (as with GTX 980). On this matter, I can see the manufacturer's/board partner's/retailer's point.
It is also true that the GTX 970 is still the same card (benchmark wise), that we bought after seeing the very first reviews.
HOWEVER...the following specifications prove a lie that can not be explained away with Marketing terms or benchmarks:
Advertised ROPs: 64
Actual ROPS: 56
Advertised L2 Cache: 2MB
Actual L2 Cache: 1.75MB
This is false advertising. This is the lie. This is why I am angry, and I do not understand why any user would defend Nvidia/board partner's/retailer's for this.
I don't think people is defending nVIDIA or AIBs in the first place. I have absolute no doubt anyone that bought the card liked to find the card was advertised with wrong specs. I know I am p***ed at nVIDIA - and nVIDIA alone -, because what they did. They now say there was a "missunderstanding between PR and engineering" and I believe them; what I find hard to believe is that not a single engineer noticed the PR mess before January 2015. But, this is a different discussion and I'm only speculating.
What I don't accept (and I think that is what some owners are having issues with), is the card having a flawed design; that is not working as intended. I defend nVIDIA engineers decision to cut the L2 cache so die-harvesting GTX 970 capable GPUs would increase, thus reducing the price. And at this moment, knowing the card's true specs I'm even more astonished with my GTX 970 performance. It really does more with less. And does it for €350 (that was how much it cost me). Plus, it completely destrois the GTX 780 I had before (and sold for €300 after using it for 18 months).
For nVIDIA to come out with a "new" GTX 970 with same ROP and L2 cache as GTX 980, they have to price it higher because is harder to harvest dies that will fill those specs.
And here's the ugly truth: if such a card cames out, it will stutter exactly the same as present GTX 970 stutters. Why? Because it will have the same CUDA CORES as the present GTX 970. The card will get out of "cuda core" power long before getting out of VRAM. The GTX 970 as is, has 1664 CUDAs that can handle with 52 pixels per clock, while the ROPs can handle 56 pixels per clock. Do you see where the bottleneck is?
So, having ROPs being capable of handling 64 pixels per clock would do anything for the GTX 970 unless the CUDA count increases - in which case, we will end up with a GTX 980.

GTX 970 Gaming 4G fan issue - bios edit or Afterburner profile?

There's a rather specific issue at hand with my second GTX 970 at the moment -> after a short repaste, the GPU now is too "cold" in relation to the VRMs.
Before, the VRMs used to be ~80°C under heavy load (measured at the backside of the card). Now, the card will turn itself off after hitting ~115° VRM temperature.
Is there anything simple, that lets me keep the board's fan regulation, that would make the fans spin faster at a given temperature? The "temperature limit" in Afterburner for example doesn't work.

Quote from: Radical_53 on 02-March-15, 23:45:42
Ok, the first part of my solution works well so far Found a "custom" flash tool that allowed me to flash my edited bios onto the card.
The whole thing I changed was to decrease all the temperature "goals" for the fan by 10°C, eg. the card will now stay in passive mode up to 50°C, not 60°C.
The biggest change was the percentage the fan has under load, which was my goal exactly: From 45% under load I went to 75%, all done by the card itself, without my fancy AB curve. Quite an improvement and some added security for me.
Can i ask for more details and your modded bios? Seems like a good idea.
Also write your S/N so ill know if i can even flash your bios
Thanks

GTX 970 Gaming 4G 100% Fan Issue

I just purchased a new GTX 970 Gaming 4G and I am having the 100% fan issue that I have been reading about. Is there an easy fix for this or do I need to flash the bios on this card. I am a newbie and any help to resolve this problem would be appreciated.
Thanks

or just flash directly to the latest vbios version .186:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=252958.msg1454064#msg1454064
then see if you will have a fan issues

P67A-G43 select boot device issue with GTX 970

I recently tried to install a new GTX 970 and ran into an issue where I am asked to select the boot device every time I boot the pc. I uninstalled the driver for my video card before installing it. The system appears to be stable once it boots into Windows. However, when I swap back to the GTX 760, that was in the system previously, it boots straight into Windows without having to select the boot device? I have seen lots of issues on the forum about the 970 and older boards but nothing specific to mine. I am currently have BIOS version 1.A0 installed. Any help with this issue would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Yes, you need to update. Following the below updates to latest official bios (5.4 aka E7673IMS.540)
>>Use the MSI HQ Forum USB flasher<<
A.) Download >>this archive<< and place it on your desktop. Do not decompress.
B.) Download and install the Forum flash tool.
C.) Insert your FAT32 formatted usb stick.
D.) Make sure that all win 8 options are disabled. (Fast Boot etc) Also make sure the legacy USB is enabled.
E.) Start the forum flash tool and select option 1. Then point the tool at the compressed archive we downloaded earlier. Then to your USB Flash Drive.
F.) Boot to the USB
G.) Now follow the directions and let the tool flash
H.) After flashing reinstall ME drivers in Windows: http://download.msi.com/dvr_exe/intel_amt81_win78_xp.zip

MSI GeForce GTX 970 with MSI Z68A-GD55 (G3) motherboard

Hi!
I have seen a similar issue here that was resolved with the help of this forum. (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=251322.0). I still want to ask my questons however, since I have a slightly different situation.
I recently bought a new Graphics card, a MSI GTX 970, to replace my older EVGA GTX 570. After installing it, the time it takes to startup the computer is quite a bit longer. The very begninning of the startup process is the part that takes longer, I see a black screen and "B2" in the lower right hand corner, with the older GPU this was seen for a few seconds but now it stays that way for about a minute. After that I see some random colors in stead of the MSI logo and then the regular "Starting Windows" image appears, from there the startup is as fast as before.
When the computer has started it seems to work perfectly, and the new graphics card is great, everything on "ultra" in games etc.
I guess the way to resolve this issue is to update BIOS. I am a bit afraid of this however, of the risk of destroying something.
What would be your suggestions? Is it better to update bios or to leave it as it is, since the computer works? Are the any risks with keeping this bios version, that seems to have some issue with the graphics card?
Any help would be greately appreciated!
/Johan
Board: MSI Z68A-GD55 (G3)
Bios: Version 23.7
VGA: MSI GeForce GTX 970 Gaming 4GB
PSU: Corsair TX 750W Modular
MEM: G.Skill Ripjaws X Performance 2x4GB
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz – not overclocked
System Harddrive: SSD 120GB Corsair SATA 2.5", Force 3 Series
Extra Harddrive: 1TB Samsung SP SATA-2* 7200RPM Spinpoint F3
OS: Windows®7 Home 64-bit
Cooling: Standard fans from the case (Fractal Design Define R3) and for the CPU plus one Scythe Slip Stream 140mm (1200rpm)

Ok, thanks for the advice.
I have started looking at the instructions and have downloaded the installer and the bios file. It seems Norton Internet Security has some problem with the installer. When I start the installer it reaches the point when it shows the current bios version, after that it is interupted by Norton. The reason that Norton gives is that it has found something called "Suspicious.Cloud.9.B" in the file b4.bks. How should I react to this?

B2 Error with new MSI GTX 970 :(

Hi there team!
Just registered to try and get help. I spent around 6 hours researching + trying all the suggestions throughout many different forums, but the B2 error still persists. I am currently running the following spec:
Mobo - MSI Z68A-G43 (G3), with version 4.30 ( I flashed bios last night and still no help)
CPU - Intel® Core™ i5-2500K Processor, 3.5GHz etc.etc.
RAM - Corsair Vengeance 2x4gb at 1333MHz
GPU - MSI GTX 970 GAMING Twin Frozr V 4GB GDDR5
PSU - Cooler Master Silent Pro 700W
I have tried:
-Taking out the card and using the on-board graphics to flash the bios to later version, No help. (during this process, the B2 error does NOT show up)
-Upgraded the card to latest nVidia drivers, even uninstalled and re-installed them. No help.
-Upgraded all the drivers from MSI, i.e. chipset etc. through Live Update 6. No help.
When the card is in, I cannot even access bios, it just gets stuck at B2 screen for like a minute, and then carries on with the boot process. I am able to play games etc. after the booting, but this error for sure should not be there when the PC boots up. I didn't have any issues with my old GTX 560 TI. I've read different forums saying that it might have something to do with the mobo thinking that something has to be connected to the on-board graphics; or that flashing BIOS helped a lot of users, but not me :(.
I don't have a second PC to test the card on.
Literally, I would try anything, please someone just help :(( This card is a beast and I wanna be able to properly use it and not having to worry about this error.
Thank you very much guys, hope someone can help!

Quote from: gabe_dimitrov on 08-February-15, 20:40:51
Man thank you so much! It is finally working!!! Thank you!!!! ))) It is showing correct version in BIOS, does not show B2 error whatsoever, all done! )
Thanks for your time! You can close thread, but it's very useful for anyone that has this issue!
Wich version of BIOS do you have installed? Can you OC your processor with new BIOS?

GTX 970 PC Crashing (Started since I played GTA V and it crashed)

This all started 2 days ago while I was playing GTA V. Someone recommended installing Afterburner to look at my CPU and GPU usage while in game. Once the program was installed I was trying to understand how it worked, and I was looking at the sliders in the middle. I attempted to move one as it looked as if the changed had to be applied by the tick button, I moved it a tiny amount tot the right and suddenly my PC decided it would start to lag. So, I just put it back to where it was and left it (without pressing the tick)
I have no idea if the above is actually relevant, but I never experienced any issues before then. The next day I went onto GTA V to play it again, and after a few minutes in the middle of a car chase where a lot was going on my game exited with the error message... err_gfx_d3d_init . This was followed by text saying: Failed Initialization. Please reboot and restart the game. Try re-installing the game if this persists. I am not prepared to download the 60gb game again unless it is outlined as the problem for sure, since I have a download speed of 700kbps.
This kept happening but then it started to just shutdown my PC all together when this happened. This has now risen to the point of I had to unplug my graphics card as I would have no display while turning on my PC. My PC is now working fine with the exception of the graphics card. I have decided to try reinstalling the drivers which is something I am attempting to do right now (Update will be posted below).
PC Specs:
i7 4790k 4ghz
16gb DDR3
Asrock Z97 Pro4 Socket 1150
Corsair RM 650W
MSI GTX 970 GAMING Twin Frozr V 4GB GDDR5 Dual DVI HDMI DisplayPort PCI-E Graphics Card
If anyone has any suggestions that will help me and the rest of the GTA V gaming community about these crashes then it would be hugely appreciated.

Hey guys,
I'm having the EXACT same error. I don't know what to do anymore. I purchased newer faster RAM to see if it was a case of overloaded forcing a shutdown of the game?
I upgraded from 8Gb to 16Gb, anyways.. It didn't work.
Essentially, game crashes, I get the "D3D_INIT" error asking me to reinstall and nothing has changed, despite the clean re-installation of drivers and the game alike I am getting really frustrated with this especially when it drops during something like a 'Heist'. I've followed countless forums posts on here and 'Tomshardware.com' and the rest. I'm currently trying to make up my mind of whether or not to return the card since it's obviously not up to the job.
I would really appreciate some help on this.
I haven't changed any settings as its factory set and OC'd (Maxwell Edition).
Current set up:
MoBo: MSi Gaming 5, Z97
CPU: Intel i7 4790k @ 4.4Ghz (Factory/MoBo Turbo)
GPU: Single MSI GTX 970, Maxwell Edition
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Pro 2x8Gb @ 1866Mhz
Storage:
1x 120Gb SSD (w/ OS)
2x 2Tb HDD (Junk and the rest)
I really need help with this one guys. I went out to purchase the new GPU for the purpose of the newer gen games and it's been a massive let down!

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