GTX 970 Gold Edition

Had read about it recently....
http://www.techpowerup.com/206844/msi-unveils-geforce-gtx-970-gold-limited-edition.html
Have 2 questions:
1) how come Limited Edition already if current Non Limited Edition is not fully sorted out yet?
2) Backplate?... so it IS possible?
But mean things aside - its a piece of beauty, seriously. And backplate - can MSI make add on kits for 970 and 980 owners to buy (cheap)?

Quote from: Neqsus on 10-November-14, 15:01:16
So can anyone speculate on when they'll be getting this card out, maybe based on past limited edition releases? I'm looking at getting an MSI 970 Gaming, but I'm really not crazy about the red (I know, I'm probably the only one). I'm crossing my fingers that they'll get it out by 2015, I don't want to wait any longer than that to upgrade from my 550ti -.-
Also, what "issues" are there left to be sorted out with the current gaming card? I've heard some reports about fan noise, but given EVGA's lower quality components and cooler problems, ASUS's poor OC ability, and the massive size of the Gigabyte cards I'm pretty set on the MSI 970.
Thanks for any insight!
-this graphic card uses an 8 phase power delivery system (6 for GPU, 2 for memory). BUT the voltage regulator on this card (OnSemi NCP81174) is designed to use only 4 phases. in reality this MSI card is nothing more than a reference card with a needlessly oversized cooler.
-this thing can NOT use a solid SLI bridge. you need to use a ribbon style SLI bridge. the plastic shield of the cooler sticks out about an inch over the SLI connectors. and this REALLY sucks because i wanted to use the pretty nVidia SLI bridge that has a glowing logo on it.
if they were going to go with this stupid giant fan design they could have at least thrown in some free extra long ribbon SLI bridges with the cards. but that's a minor thing.
more importantly, the Asus GTX 970 STRIX uses an 8 phase capable voltage regulator (IRF ASP1212) and costs the same. there is no excuse for going cheap on what is essentially the 3rd most important component on this card (behind the GPU itself and the memory). even the much hated EVGA GTX 970 uses a 5 phase voltage controller!!!

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Hey guys,
I'm having the EXACT same error. I don't know what to do anymore. I purchased newer faster RAM to see if it was a case of overloaded forcing a shutdown of the game?
I upgraded from 8Gb to 16Gb, anyways.. It didn't work.
Essentially, game crashes, I get the "D3D_INIT" error asking me to reinstall and nothing has changed, despite the clean re-installation of drivers and the game alike I am getting really frustrated with this especially when it drops during something like a 'Heist'. I've followed countless forums posts on here and 'Tomshardware.com' and the rest. I'm currently trying to make up my mind of whether or not to return the card since it's obviously not up to the job.
I would really appreciate some help on this.
I haven't changed any settings as its factory set and OC'd (Maxwell Edition).
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CPU: Intel i7 4790k @ 4.4Ghz (Factory/MoBo Turbo)
GPU: Single MSI GTX 970, Maxwell Edition
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Pro 2x8Gb @ 1866Mhz
Storage:
1x 120Gb SSD (w/ OS)
2x 2Tb HDD (Junk and the rest)
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Greetings everyone.
So as I'm aware off, there are no "default" PCB for the 970. Manufacturers were told to create their own PCB or base it off some older PCBs.
With that said, how would you know if an aftermarket GPU cooler would fit on lets say MSI GTX 970 GAMING 4G, since there should be no such things as "reference mounting holes"?
I have the RAIJINTEK Morpheus GPU cooler laying around alright. But is there no way at all, to know if it'll fit the mention videocard?

Okay..
This is my suggestion:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/webnote.php
Presales Enquiry:
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file path: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\nvlddmkm.sys
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company: NVIDIA Corporation
description: NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver, Version 344.80
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Hey my fellow Gaming body's
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Hope you have a good dag and hope some of you can help me.
@HappyGamer!

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tat de la licenceÿ: avec licence
Thank
Link where come from the bios file update
msi.com/support/nb/GS60-2QE-Ghost-Pro-Gold-Edition.html#down-bios&Win8.1 64

I have forgot too to precise, I have update the bios with your (msi) bios file because the fan cooling wasn't working correctly and the laptop was very hot. Now, it's much better, but NO SOUND :-(.
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Quote from: Velox on 02-December-14, 10:09:33
EDIT: Derp... that's the fan tachometer, sorry. Looks like it's still having the same problems. Has anyone found a fix for this yet? I know I can rollback to 344.16... I've been using that up until now, but I had to update to 344.75 in order to use Physx on High on Borderlands 2. This sucks :(.
It is a vell known problem. There is a fix and it is also anounced through this forum. You should update your bios for your MSI GTX 970 card. Please see this thread: Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue
best, d.

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So we have now had it confirmed that the specification of the 970 GTX was wrong. These specifications were released by Nvidia and these were the specifications printed on the box of my MSI Gaming 970 4G. Namely that card has 4G of Vram running on a 256 bit bus. In reality we now know that only 7/8th (3.5G) of the 4G vram operates at the expected 224 Gb/sec memory bandwidth. We also know that the cards performance will seriously degrade in scenarios where a game tries to access that last 0.5G of vram.
Games increasingly used up more Vram when using high res texture packs. Also running higher resolutions and sli profiles require much more Vram and can easily exceed 3.5G.
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Quote from: Airjarhead on 01-February-15, 07:13:57
Sure, Nvidia, MSI, EVGA, Asus, etc. mislead us with the whole 3.5GB+512MB issue, but I don't think it was an egregious lie. It was more a marketing issue. After all, it is 4GB of total RAM, it just doesn't function as we would expect 4GB to function (as with GTX 980). On this matter, I can see the manufacturer's/board partner's/retailer's point.
It is also true that the GTX 970 is still the same card (benchmark wise), that we bought after seeing the very first reviews.
HOWEVER...the following specifications prove a lie that can not be explained away with Marketing terms or benchmarks:
Advertised ROPs: 64
Actual ROPS: 56
Advertised L2 Cache: 2MB
Actual L2 Cache: 1.75MB
This is false advertising. This is the lie. This is why I am angry, and I do not understand why any user would defend Nvidia/board partner's/retailer's for this.
I don't think people is defending nVIDIA or AIBs in the first place. I have absolute no doubt anyone that bought the card liked to find the card was advertised with wrong specs. I know I am p***ed at nVIDIA - and nVIDIA alone -, because what they did. They now say there was a "missunderstanding between PR and engineering" and I believe them; what I find hard to believe is that not a single engineer noticed the PR mess before January 2015. But, this is a different discussion and I'm only speculating.
What I don't accept (and I think that is what some owners are having issues with), is the card having a flawed design; that is not working as intended. I defend nVIDIA engineers decision to cut the L2 cache so die-harvesting GTX 970 capable GPUs would increase, thus reducing the price. And at this moment, knowing the card's true specs I'm even more astonished with my GTX 970 performance. It really does more with less. And does it for €350 (that was how much it cost me). Plus, it completely destrois the GTX 780 I had before (and sold for €300 after using it for 18 months).
For nVIDIA to come out with a "new" GTX 970 with same ROP and L2 cache as GTX 980, they have to price it higher because is harder to harvest dies that will fill those specs.
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