GTX580 TFII artifacts with the new bios

Hello everyone.
I got a brand new sealed GTX580 TFII as a replacement for my old one that had a problem with one of the 2 fans. My previous card had the old bios installed which gave 1.00mV so the card was not stable. Finally I updated the bios from the MSI website and the voltage increased to 1.025mV so everything was fine.
The new one came with the 1.025mV installed out of the box so I didn't have to do any tweaking. Thing is that it's not stable even with 1.025mV. I constantly get crashes with artifacts in Deus Ex and Battlefield 3 which happen to be DX11 games and therefore more demanding graphics wise.
What do I have to do now?? It's the second time I have problems with this particular card.

Quote from: agelosLX on 31-October-11, 07:46:51
To be honest, I find 1.050mV way too high for such clock speeds (800/1200).
Yea well its not THAT HIGH, 1.100mV and more is high and for overclocking, but 1.050 and even 75 are fine. My stock voltage with this card was 1.038mV as seen in Afterburner and it was crashing on BF3 and Crysis. Right now, I'm testing 1.075mV. So far no crash.

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