GUi Development Packages.

Hi all.
Respect to all who have mastered building complex GUI with swing! I thought it was going to be easy ! Unfortunatly this assumpsion has put me behind in my schedule.
Are there any GUI builders availible that are both free and relativly easy to learn and use.
I have looked at JBuilder but dont have the time to master it.
Cheers for any suggestions ;).

Hi,
Here is one more suggestion , which i try some times...but the requirement is this must be your final design, further modifications to the screen are difficult
I use JBuilder todesign my screen with null layout, so i am able to drop my components and get the size i want etc,
Then i change the layout to gridbag, Jbuilder then automatically applies the GBL depending upon the position of the components already added by u.
But there is one disadvantage, it is difficult to change the design manually.
I think GBL is good, but complicated, i prefer to use lot of panels, with some simple layout managers and then add all those panels on JFrame or JDialog to make one display..
It makes the design easy, but u mostly loose the funtion of automatic resizing when u drag the dialog or frame, which is excellent in GBL
Ashish

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Motif 2.x development is not supported in Forte Developer 6U2 and previous versions.
It will be supported in Forte Developer 7 though.
You can try out the FD7EA2 package with your code for now, but FD7EA2 does not honor the "visu" name and "VISUROOT" environment variable. You will have to change "visu" to "xdesigner" in any existing makefiles and "VISUROOT" to "XDROOT". Other than that it should be compatible.
FD7EA2 is available at http://wwws.sun.com/software/Developer-products/info/features/fd7ea2.html .
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NetBeans or Eclipse: Which is better for GUI development ?

I am relatively new with JAVA, came from embedded software domain mostly in C.
My interest is to learn and develop the GUI applications using Swing.
I am currently in a process of evaluating the IDEs, Eclipse and NetBeans on Linux desktop environment (SuSE 10.3).
My primary findings found that, NetBeans is better equipped with GUI development while Eclipse needs to have a plugin installed.
For GUI development, I found that few of my fellow Java developer friends have mixed feelings about these two wonderful IDEs, in summary here are the comments:
1) Developing GUI is better without any assistance from built in designers of IDEs (e.g. NetBeans or Visual Swing of Eclipse). Because, they put extra 'garbage" codes which are very much IDE specific.
2) GUI development in NetBeans is faster and more productive than Eclipse
3) Visual Swing for Eclipse is not a matured product and it is far inferior than NetBeans' capabaility
Now I ask a question, what is the best practice to adopt for starting the GUI development ? NetBeans or Eclispse or IDE-less development ?
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atomodachi wrote:
Now I ask a question, what is the best practice to adopt for starting the GUI development ?
NetBeansThis is my preference for IDE's. Please note that as I stated that is my preference. There isn't any best, some are clearly better than others for one reason or another, but once again, that boils down to personal preference.
EclispseNot my preference.
IDE-less development ?IMO: that is just silly. Unless you just enjoy tons of typing; why would you ever embark on doing something without a tool to speed up the process. Now that is not to say that in using your IDE you should start out by just dragging and dropping up a storm and merrily running down the road in ignorance until you hit a rough spot and have things dramatically pointed out that you've really not a clue about what is happening. Use the IDE, but learn how to do the manual processes along with it. That means that sometimes you'll not drag and drop to build your GUI, you'll actually code the entire thing. And you really should learn to do things command-line like compile. Do yourself a really big favor too, learn the debugger. The integrated debuggers is, perhaps, one of the best inventions in productivity tools that has as of yet been invented for developers.
In any case, have fun... choose what you like, it really does come down to personal preference. I've worked in several shops over the years and most have come to the conclusion that if you can get the work done, and have projects that others can use, then to each their own preferences. The discussion rages on for and against each of the systems that you have mention--each have valid arguments--it boils down to what do you want and like.

[SOLVED] Confused about development packages

To build an embedded linux image using minifs utility, I need to install some development packages. The packages listed in the tutorial are named for Debian based distros, with the "-dev" suffix. Some of the listed packages are: libz-dev, libelf-dev, libelfg0-dev, libncurses-dev, etc.
I can't find these packages, and I'm a bit confused. I have read that these packages in Arch Linux have different suffixes denpending on the origin (-cvs, -git, etc.), but I can't find any packages with that suffixes. For example for ncurses:
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community/yacpi 3.0.1-3
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No ncurses-cvs, ncurses-git, ncurses-svn or the like is found. How can I find development packages?
Last edited by doragasu (2012-03-09 22:38:03)

doragasu wrote:So in Arch, packages include not only binaries + resources, they also include header files? If I install for example ncurses, also header files for ncurses get installed?
headers, pkg-config, everything in one package, that is required for a compilation. we keep stuff simple
Last edited by wonder (2012-03-09 22:37:46)

GUI Development Paradigm

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I'm quite new in ALBPM and I have some questions about it, especially about user interfaces.
I've been developing JSP aplications (using MVC frameworks) for a long time, and I can't figure out how does it fit in the ALBPM world.
What's the paradigm for GUI development? At first, I believe the screenflow should act like the controler, the BPM object is the model, and the custom JSPs are the views.
But... sincerely for me, the Screenflow/BPM object/Custom JSPs seem less flexible than a regular MVC (Struts, JSF, ...)
My question is: Is it mandatory to use screenflows, or I'm able to use a MVC architecture inside ALBPM? If it's possible how should I implement it?
For example: I have a custom JSP with some menu items, and this items are links to other JSP pages. This behaviour should
be modeled using screenflows or can I use another approach? What's the best practice for this task?
In MVC architecture, the menu will be inside an html form with an action pointing to a servlet (a controller). And what about screenflows?
Well, I'd like to hear some opinions about this, especially because i'm triyng to get used to BPM paradigm, and in my opinion the best approach for this is hearing from people who had experienced this situation.
Thanks in advance,
Thiago

Hi Thiago,
I think I see what you're asking. Let me know if I'm missing your point.
I personally try to have a Model version of the BPM Object. I'll build this object first. This object just has the attributes, groups and methods I need. This object will be used to pass information from the process into the individual screenflows and procedures and subprocesses.
I'll then create a View version of the same BPM Object. I create this View BPM object is created by creating an heir from the original Model BPM Object (right mouse click the Model BPM Object and click "Create Heir"). When I know I'll need to collect several Model BPM Objects into one View object, I'll instead add these as attributes (each attribute would be of the type of the desired Model BPM Object). Built this way, this View Object would have all the attributes and methods of the Model object. You'd also add to this View Object the presentations you'll later use inside the screenflows and any methods you'll use inside these presentations.
At this point, you'll have a clean Model BPM Object - uncluttererd by presentations and presentation methods. You'll have View BPM Objects that will be used exclusively inside Global, Interactive, Global Creation and Interactive activity screenflows.
When I create a screenflow I always do it after I first have created a process with a BPM Object as an instance variable already defined in it. This object does not have to be perfectly defined. It just should be present in the process. If I decide later that I need additional attributes and methods, these can be added at any point in the development lifecycle. This object is the Model object I'll pass to my screenflows.
Second, after creating this process with the BPM Object (usually the process at this stage just shows the "Happy Path") I'll add the necessary Interactive activities used in the process. (finally getting to your question) I then create screenflows for each of the Interactive activities (right click the activity -> Main task -> pick screenflow from the dropdown -> New). As you're doing this from this panel, be sure to map the Model object as both an incoming and outgoing variable into and out of the screenflow. Some people also map the "result" predefined variable as an outgoing variable from the screenflow. If you do it this way, you'll not have to do any of the 4 argument mappings you'd have to do had you added the incoming and outgoing variables manually. If you decide to do this manually, many times you'll find yourself spending an hour tracing down where you lost the contents / changes made inside screenflows.
This best practice makes it easy to pass in and get back the Model object to and from the screenflow. Once inside the screenflow, you'd do the Model to View to Model object mapping described in my earlier post.
hth,
Dan

GUI Development Question

Hi everybody!
I'm quite new in ALBPM and I have some questions about it, especially about user interfaces.
I've been developing JSP aplications (using MVC frameworks) for a long time, and I can't figure out how does it fit in the ALBPM world.
What's the paradigm for GUI development? At first, I believe the screenflow should act like the controler, the BPM object is the model, and the custom JSPs are the views.
But... sincerely for me, the Screenflow/BPM object/Custom JSPs seem less flexible than a regular MVC (Struts, JSF, ...)
My question is: Is it mandatory to use screenflows, or I'm able to use a MVC architecture inside ALBPM? If it's possible how should I implement it?
For example: I have a custom JSP with some menu items, and this items are links to other JSP pages. This behaviour should
be modeled using screenflows or can I use another approach? What's the best practice for this task?
In MVC architecture, the menu will be inside an html form with an action pointing to a servlet (a controller). And what about screenflows?
Well, I'd like to hear some opinions about this, especially because i'm triyng to get used to BPM paradigm, and in my opinion the best approach for this is hearing from people who had experienced this situation.
Thanks in advance

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Javadoc after Mac OS X 10.6 Java Update 3 and Java Developer Package

I can't seem to find javadocs, src, nor any real documentation on my Mac after installing Mac OS X 10.6 Java Update 3 and the Java Developer Package. NetBeans used to just find it, and now doing a find as shown below reveals nothing. Does the Developer Package actually include docs anymore? If so, where do I find them?
find /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/ -name "doc*"
find /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/ -name "src*"
find /System/Library/Java/ -name "doc*"
None of these turn up anything.
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It took me a while but I solved it like this:
In NetBeans, open the Java Platform Manager (Tools -> Java Platforms).
Click the Add Platform... button in the lower left corner.
Select Java Standard Edition (selected by default).
In the File field, enter: /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/1.6.0_22-b04-307.jdk/Contents/Home
Click Next >
The Platform Sources field should say: /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/1.6.0_22-b04-307.jdk/Contents/Home/src.jar
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Exit NetBeans.
Open: /Applications/NetBeans/NetBeans 6.8.app/Contents/Resources/NetBeans/etc/netbeans.conf (e.g. in TextEdit)
Beneath the line that says: #netbeans_jdkhome="/path/to/jdk"
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Overriding the default location in the netbeans.conf file may be enough such that you don't need to add the platform in the Netbeans Java Platform Manager.
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Development Package migration

Hi,
I know I've two many threads for today. But, it's really urgent.
I have a question.
We've made a development package on the ABAP Workbench under the SAP R/3.
Then later we installed a new ERP ECC 6.0 system.
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My question would it be, what should I do to make the package seems like it has been done on the new system?
-> The only solution that I could find that I must do it manually and this's gone take ages.
Unfortunately, I must do it manually because we have a namespace now and everything should contain the namespace. It's the worstest thing that I had ever expected.
How could SAP didn't think about that or am I really underqualified, considere that I'm only a student and am writing too much because it made me out of me when I lose too many time doing nothing.
I really excuse my bad english but when someone speak over four languages, he lose(the reality) the simple things that everyone knows i.e. orthographe and syntax.
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Rashmi

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Introducing JavaStates - a new API for state based GUI development in Swing

JavaStates partially implements the semantics of D Harel' statecharts.
It is currently hosted as source forge project:
[https://sourceforge.net/projects/javastates/]
, and has been used for several years for teaching Java Swing and the specification of man machine interfaces at ESIL
[http://www.esil.univmed.fr]
[http://laurent.henocque.com]
The project provides several demos, including a full fledged swing text editor, and is stable.
Details can be found here too:
[http://javastates.posterous.com/]
I'd be very happy to interact with both experts and users.
I claim that Javastates tremendously improve the quality and speed of GUI development.
Do you agree?
Edited by: lhenocque on Mar 4, 2010 4:18 AM

Thanks for the good practise hint, and many more thanks for your interest.
I haven't tried anything but don't you get an explosion of states?
explosion of states is controlled by concurrent regions. Two states in two concurrent regions can be active at the same time.
There can be no 'explosion' anyway since the states are programmer declared. The list is finite, and under control.
For example the program I'm working on has a table and actions are enabled based on:
-no selection/single selection/multi selection
-top/bottom row selected (move up/down action)
-user read/write permission
-properties of the object of the selected row
The situation you describe is handled by (at least) four concurrent regions.
The typical error is usually forgetting a particular one which result in action being enabled/disabled when the shouldn't. Currently solving that by having a callback method which enables all the action correctly and gets called whenever there is a selection/security/etc update.
Javastates cares for both setting the properties of the states (including the callbacks to fire) and for the cleanup. Using this allows for defect free interfaces in the sense that nothing can be left over.
Using Javastates helps you to separate your logic in the same way as object programming with virtual functions does. You should end up replacing a code with many if/thens by separate listeners, dynamically set by callbacks.
Also fluent interface method chaining is nice until it becomes a flood in my opinion - similar to how GroupLayout is better handled by Matisse GUI builder than by hand, JavaStates might benefit more from a graphical tool.
You are right. Both apis exist. The fluent api is provided for simplicity, since it prevents from declaring useless local variables.
Also for a GUI builder. I created the foundation of Javastates for an interpreted language called WIZ in the IDE Openside around 1990 (that was in C).
Then later I implemented a subset of the current Java features in C++, that were interfaced in the GUI Builder called ILOG Views.
So yes I agree a GUI can help, but anyway the Java code resulting from using states is mare more concise and structured than it would otherwise.

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