Guided Procedures and BPM

Hello,
I read that GP as a portal workflow tool is going away and being replaced by BPM(Business Process Management)....i want to know the key differences between both of them .....and i also want to learn BPM.....can somebody provide useful documents on it....
Any help would be highly appreciated.
Regards,
Anil

Hi Anil
With BPM, you have more facility to develop business process. You have a tool called Process Composer in NWDS, where you can develop using a high level interface.
BPM isn't complete as GP, because it is in initial versions, but SAP is going to increment this process
You can learn more about BPM in [https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/nw-bpm|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/nw-bpm].
There are a lot of interest think about bpm there.
All the best
Marcos

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Vendore              sap.com
Name:                 SAP-EU
Version:               7.00 SP14 (1000.7.00.14.0.20071117060736)
Provider:              SAP AG
location:              MAIN_APL70VAL_C
Applied:              20080213042227
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