Guitar rig sounds different

Hello,
I recently bought the new Mbpr witht he newest software. Now the problem is that the quality of the sound when recording in garageband is alot worse than it used to be. I use guitar rig 5 with it and I have it set up correctly to the track but even though I am using the same exact sound from the rig, it sounds pretty plain and dull and lacks lower EQ on garageband compared to standalone, where it sounds great. I also didin't have this problem with the earlier version of garageband. I couldn't hear difference in that version of garageband and standalone. I have turned off all the EQs and stuff but no help there. Is there any way to make sure garageband has no effect on my input from the guitar rig or is there nothing I can do? Also is it possible to get the eralier version of garageband? Id like to get back to recording so any info on this would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!

Are you using Guitar Rig AU plugin?
Have you tried different master track presets?

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Give it a go and let me know if you have any questions.
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