H264 asynchron after rendering

dear community,
I have recently bought Adobe Premiere Elements 11 to cut recorded TV program. It was recored from DVB-C via Terrratec H5 Stick using Terratec Home Cinema.
First i tried cutting t with 2 different free programs, Smart Cutter and Avidemux. Smart Cutter always crashed during the process. Using Avidemux I always got asynchron video and sound (beginning was synchron, got more and more asynchron until I had a shift of 2 seconds at the end of the film!).
Now with Adobe Premiere Elements 11 for Windows I have the same problem after cutting off the beginning and the end (with the same video file I have an approximately shift of 45 seconds, sound is 45 seconds slower). I tried out different players (VLC, Windows Media Player, Windows Media Center), all having the same problem. Before rendering Premiere Elements plays it perfectly synchron.
input file:
Typ: MPEG-film (TS-File, H.264)
Size: 7,2 GB
Resolution: 1280x720
Framerate 50,00
Audio: 48000 Hz - compressed - stereo
Length: 1:57:35:15
Average datarate: 1,0MB/second
Pixel-ratio: 1,0
export settings:
Typ: MPEG2
Resolution: 1280x720
Framerate 50 fps
TV-Standard: NTSC
Audio: Dolby Digital, 448 Kbit/s, 48 Hz
After investing into Adobe software and rendering for 45 minutes (with Intel i7 2600k) I would have expected to get a perfectly synchron result.
I would be very pleased if you could help me find a solution.

The commercial likely only contained a 2-channel (Stereo) Audio Stream, where the program content contained DD 5.1 SS in DD AC3. It sounds like you were (before you ran it through XMedia Recode) only getting the LS (Left Surround) and RS (Right Surrond), or rear channels only. Most dialog is fed to the Center channel, with some to LF (Left Front) and RF (Right Front).
Though not in video editing, I have encountered such with a home theater system, which fed Audio to a separate amp and speakers in another room - only the LS and RS channels were being fed from the receiver. To correct that, I had to replace that receiver with one that had a full second stage. In my case, the Center channel was completely missing, with little, if any LF & RF - only LS & RS.
Glad that you found a solution, and posted that.
Good luck,
Hunt

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