H264 to PAL 25fps

Hey folks. I have an h264 NTSC 29fps 60hz... I'm trying to turn it into a 50herts PAL. Not having much luck figuring out what settings to use.
It's an HDV, so I'm trying to keep that in the final output. Any suggestions?

Thanks very much for the response and for testing.
So, once I have conformed and it is 25fps, then I convert to PAL, right?
But won't the conversion to PAL, either through FCP or through Nattress Conversion add the 25th double frame, or maybe there's an option for fixing that.
many thanks.
Have to go out now, so if you answer my question, I can only reply later tonight.
best wishes and thanks again
Harry

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