Half moon shape

Hi
could someone just confirm if I'm following the right path (sorry about the pun)
Drew a circle (shift/alt)
Used the sizzor tool on left hand point and then shift click on RH point etc until I'm left with a semi circle with two end of path points. Ok I clicked and shift clicked and selected join paths and hey presto I now have a semi circle.
I want to curve the straight line in like a banana but this bit has me beat.
Wrong technique?
thanks
Ian

>Wrong technique?
There are typically many different ways to draw any given shape in Illustrator. Some are easier/faster than others. There is no right or wrong about it. Often, it depends on what you want to do with that shape.
Here's a recent discussion that might interest you:
"PEN TOOL: How to draw a "crescent moon" shape ?" #1, 21 Mar 2009 11:22 am
Learning to use the pen tool is an important part of Illustrator proficiency, but, for this particular exercise, you might also consider drawing two circles (one larger than the other), offsetting them, and using pathfinder tools to produce your crescent.

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